How best to oppose gay pride at work

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worried that it might be a mortal sin not to actively oppose it.
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When it comes to mortal sin there is no “might.” You can’t accidentally throw away your salvation. If you’re in genuine doubt, there is no mortal sin and there may not even be a sin at all.

If you find this happens to you frequently—I’m not sure if I committed a mortal sin by doing/not doing X—you may be scrupulous. If so, welcome to a club that includes St. Thérèse of Lisieux, St. Maximilian Kolbe, St. Alphonsus di Ligouri, and even (according to Ven. Mary of Agreda) the Blessed Virgin!

If that sounds like you, try to find a good confessor who is experienced in dealing with scrupulosity. Also check out https://scrupulousanonymous.org/ which is a ministry specifically dedicated to dealing with this issue.

Now as to the merits of your question. You are in doubt and therefore under no clear obligation to do anything except avoid, if at all possible, promoting or participating in any way. How do you best help the situation? There is no point to starting an argument with people who don’t care to listen (and maybe get fired on the way). So how do you find out who, if anyone, will listen? Try this: consecrate yourself to Mary, wear a Miraculous Medal, and let Her do the deciding about who will listen. As you probably know, She seldom spoke unless asked something, and whatever She said was purely for the benefit of others. So imitate Her. Conduct yourself with kindness and respect for everyone. If someone is supposed to engage you, they will see the Medal and say something. Otherwise, pray for them and don’t worry about it any more.
 
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My idea about this, and unmarried people living together, and all the other things that people do that do not square up with the bible and church teaching, is that it’s smart to think of these things as ‘what is the best strategy I can use to maybe bust some hard ground that the human heart has’. The answer usually is that you love them, extend kindness to them. Being critical of their actions usually shuts a person down and they become hostile toward you. Do you think that’s a smart way to go about it?

Remember that God sees them for their lifetime and maybe you have only a small window to influence them toward the good, the pure, the truth of the gospel. Don’t shut it down and ruin it. You’ll also poison it for the next person who comes into their life with the gospel.
 
Hello, it is certainly a difficult position to be in. The same could be said of abortion, which some people have yelled at me profanity simply because I am pro-life.

However I take my guidance from Jesus, who never was indifferent to the important moral issues of life. He never backed down or change His tone, no matter what.

Naturally we must plan how to do this without risking loosing our job, but as long as it is lawful and respectful, I would encourage you to make known to your employee your opposition to gay pride events.

Remember the sin of omission also exists, because after all staying silent when we should speak is not doing good, but rather allowing evil to go unchallenged.

In Canada some Christian people have been arrested simply because they tried to save babies from being aborted.
 
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I believe you are entitled to tell your employer that you dislike discussing OTHER people’s sexuality in the workplace and that for this reason, forcing you to take part in any LGBTQ pride themed event constitutes sexual harassment.

If I walked up to a female employee and insisted that she enthusiastically discuss my (hetero) sexual preferences I would be fired.
 
Sounds like a great way for you to get yourself fired from work.
Tell this person you’re at work to work, not to start controversies over company policy.
It is not a mortal sin to just leave the whole thing alone. If your employer was engaging in mortally sinful practices, such as aborting babies, then it would be a grave sin for you to even be working there. I’m presuming this is a normal job, and the Pride events are simply the usual optional get togethers or t-shirt days or whatever like normal employers have.
 
Yes, I just saw that your employer is a bank and this whole business is over some internet posts your employer, presumably their marketing and communications department, made supporting Pride month.
Obviously the bank wants gay people to keep their money and accounts with them too.

Simply tell this nosey body person who is telling you how you should run your business, that you don’t have anything to do with the internet posts and that your bank no doubt serves gay customers and has gay employees and you feel you live your faith just fine by being kind and charitable to everyone you meet, regardless of sexual preference. And then tell them to butt out of your affairs and stop talking to them because frankly they sound a little bit…off.
 
Companies which deliberately introduce LGBTQ agenda themes into their corporate branding and workplace culture-shaping cannot expect unanimous support from every employee.
Far from promoting real equality, they are accentuating difference and othering.
A gay bank customer shouldn’t be treated differently - their money isn’t gender-specific. There isn’t a seperate queue for straight bank customers and gay bank customers. But that’s what rainbow marketing does - it segregates customers.
And a gay bank employee shouldn’t have a gay pride ‘hall pass’ to discuss their sexual identity and preferences at work.
 
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I believe you are entitled to tell your employer that you dislike discussing OTHER people’s sexuality in the workplace and that for this reason, forcing you to take part in any LGBTQ pride themed event constitutes sexual harassment.
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Excellent advice.

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Tell them you plan on keeping your flag in your bottom desk drawer for the entire month!

All jokes aside, I would tell this person you have handled it in an appropriate manner and the subject is closed permanently. Refuse to talk about it after that. If he continues to pester you tell him this situation is worse than giving money to the gypsies or feeding a stray cat.😉
 
It isn’t like this is anything new.
One could make a very good argument that ancient Greece and Rome were much more accepting of homosexuality than even this modern society is.
The difference is they never had the audacity to call it marriage. The reason is because people don’t have a conjugal view of marriage anymore but only relational. It is pathetic.
Just saying this isn’t unique to us as Christians. In fact Saint Paul travelling to areas of Greece and Rome would have definitely probably have seen this sort of stuff himself. I always think about that when I see this stuff. I say, how would Paul have reacted walking through the streets of Athens with pagan idols and probably homosexual behavior all around just as a norm. People sometimes act like this is some new phenomenon that the Church has never had to confront but that is not true at all. Basically from the apostolic age to now this has always been a constant battle. Sure it wasn’t accepted by society for many eras but it never disappeared or anything like that either.
 
This person obviously doesn’t care if you lose your job. It’s very easy to stand there and tell somebody what they should do, when you don’t have to do it yourself.

Starting a petition against your employer’s advertising/marketing department would be absolutely futile and do nothing but bring negative attention to yourself and possibly get you fired. I wouldn’t do it, just keep your head down unless someone tries to directly involve you.
 
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Usually with such debates, esp to do with an employer and someone complaining… I just smile and nod. I may also throw in a shrug. I let people talk and I go about my business. If someone tells you you’re not following your Christian duty to stand up against it, tell them there’s a time and place and the workplace is not the right time for that may risk your position too…
 
Do not be dismayed. If private companies can flaunt their homosexual worldview, then Christian companies may flaunt their Christian worldview. Ideally by process of conversion we can hope and pray that the energy, works and resources now being offered and dedicated to the lifeless idol of the LGBT ideology may be baptized and transformed into something truly life and peace-giving and acceptable to the Lord. Honestly I think prayers, good works and patience are the best course for your situation. Starting a controversy is not necessary.
 
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The early Christians lived in the Roman Empire. Do you think they started petitions about employers who they disagreed with, because maybe they supported sacrifices to gods? Or executions in the Colliseum? Or drunken orgies and debauchery as thier pasttimes?

People will not end their support of sin by us protesting about sin. We must convert them to Jesus Christ. Why do we oppose sin? Because we hate sin? Maybe, but why do we hate sin? Because we love Jesus Christ.

So, do everything you can to convert them to become Christian. You probably can’t do MUCH of anything at work. So, invite them to Church, or a Bible study, or something. If they say no, then pray for them. Maybe talk about wonderful things in the Church. Or wonderful things in your life because of your faith. Just my 2 cents.

We have to get out of our head: protesting and politics. We’re a minority in this country. The Roman Empire didn’t change until a majority of it became Christians. And certainly very few people in this country are practicing orthodox Christians.
 
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You’d just be shown as a bigot and ostracised. My whole country has gone gay pride mad there would be no benefit to it, you won’t change any minds but maybe by living a Christian life you be held up as an example instead.
 
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