How can a 'Catholic' university allow coed. dorms.?

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Hello everyone. I hope that this right forum in which to ask this. I was merely wondering why an institution of higher learning that is officially Roman Catholic could provide coeducational housing to unmarried students? Personally, I feel that if a priest is at the head of such a school, he merits excommunication or, at the very least, “defrocking.” An example of such a university is Villanova, while there are a no. of Protestants which also have this phenomenon(e.g. Emory University, to my knowledge). I would be grateful for any opinions upon this, I believe, truly unfortunate ocurrence. It is utterly despicable.
 
When I went to college there was a lot less sex going on in the co-ed dorms than the segregated.

One men’s dorm I stayed in I couldn’t shower before 7 because up to then the sleepover women were in there. The guy next to me had several different women during the week with him and each Friday a very nice looking young woman from back home would show up with her bag and move in for the weekend.

Never saw anything like it in a co-ed dorm. Relationships were much more like brother sister and guys were downright protective of the girls. In addition people were much more relaxed. It was just plain more civilized.

I’m not saying no sex took place in the co-ed dorm but really there is no reason that I saw while living in both environments to oppose co-ed dorms.
 
Young_Thinker said:
Hello everyone. I hope that this right forum in which to ask this. I was merely wondering why an institution of higher learning that is officially Roman Catholic could provide coeducational housing to unmarried students? Personally, I feel that if a priest is at the head of such a school, he merits excommunication or, at the very least, “defrocking.” An example of such a university is Villanova, while there are a no. of Protestants which also have this phenomenon(e.g. Emory University, to my knowledge). I would be grateful for any opinions upon this, I believe, truly unfortunate ocurrence. It is utterly despicable.
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Why shouldn’t they have coed dorms in Catholic Universites, since we have Catholic Senators and Congress Rep’s supporting abortion? And perhaps some who support coed dorms do not support abortion and vice-versa. Once we define our standards as “relative” we have no standards. Jesus predicted that “…they will call good evil, and evil good…”
Know that you are blessed to be able to recognize evil as evil.
 
Jolly_Joe said:
When I went to college there was a lot less sex going on in the co-ed dorms than the segregated.

One men’s dorm I stayed in I couldn’t shower before 7 because up to then the sleepover women were in there. The guy next to me had several different women during the week with him and each Friday a very nice looking young woman from back home would show up with her bag and move in for the weekend.

Never saw anything like it in a co-ed dorm. Relationships were much more like brother sister and guys were downright protective of the girls. In addition people were much more relaxed. It was just plain more civilized.

I’m not saying no sex took place in the co-ed dorm but really there is no reason that I saw while living in both environments to oppose co-ed dorms.
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When I was in college (not a Catholic college), I lived in both all-woman and coed dorms, and I found things to be pretty much exactly as Jolly Joe said. The men in the coed dorm were like brothers, and I never saw any evidence of hanky panky.

For what it’s worth, our coed dorms were like apartments – three-bedroom suites, instead of individual rooms. Each suite had its own bathroom. Each suite was either all-male or all-female, and there were both male and female suites on the same floor (my floor had five male suites, and one female suite – we had lots of “brothers”!) We all shared a communal kitchen, but the only communal bathroom was a single-seater half-bath.
 
Do you mean coed dorm rooms or coed buildings?

I live in a coed dorm hall. My school has three from what I can think of. The school does its best to stop “friendly” occurrences. Guys can’t be on girls floors from this time to this time and so forth. I do enjoy listening to people complain about it on campus. Then again, the point of having these “friendly” occurrences a half hour before “curfew” is valid in my opinion.
 
Young_Thinker said:
Hello everyone. I hope that this right forum in which to ask this. I was merely wondering why an institution of higher learning that is officially Roman Catholic could provide coeducational housing to unmarried students? Personally, I feel that if a priest is at the head of such a school, he merits excommunication or, at the very least, “defrocking.” An example of such a university is Villanova, while there are a no. of Protestants which also have this phenomenon(e.g. Emory University, to my knowledge). I would be grateful for any opinions upon this, I believe, truly unfortunate ocurrence. It is utterly despicable.
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Because even the ones with the best reputations stink in terms of holding true to theological stands of the catholic church. Notre Dame is only one of many that took BIG falls (pride comes before a fall) in catholic morality in recent years.

They are CINO secular schools, all for the money.
 
Do we all have the same understanding as to what a co-ed dorm is? Co-ed does not mean opposite sexes are roommates.

At the college I attended, a co-ed dorm meant men and women lived in the same dorm, but it was segregated by floors. First floor was women, second floor was men, third floor was women, and so on. The residents could not be on the opposite sex floor after a certain hour (10pm, 11pm, midnight? I can’t remember).

Even in co-ed dorms where men and women live on the same floor segregated by suites as described above, I don’t see how that is any different than living in an apartment building where two or three girls share an apartment and next door or down the hall there are two or three guys sharing an apartment. (Same with staying in a hotel.)

What is despicable about that?
 
StrawberryJam said:
Because even the ones with the best reputations stink in terms of holding true to theological stands of the catholic church. Notre Dame is only one of many that took BIG falls (pride comes before a fall) in catholic morality in recent years.

They are CINO secular schools, all for the money.
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The topic of this thread is coed dorms. Notre Dame’s dorms are segregated.
 
Joannm said:
The topic of this thread is coed dorms. Notre Dame’s dorms are segregated.
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The topic of this thread is outrage over the hypocrisy of “catholic morality” not being a factor in big dollar catholic higher education. Name your “poison” it’s a matter of these schools, even the “best” of them sinking into secular morality.
 
Young_Thinker said:
Hello everyone. I hope that this right forum in which to ask this. I was merely wondering why an institution of higher learning that is officially Roman Catholic could provide coeducational housing to unmarried students? Personally, I feel that if a priest is at the head of such a school, he merits excommunication or, at the very least, “defrocking.” An example of such a university is Villanova, while there are a no. of Protestants which also have this phenomenon(e.g. Emory University, to my knowledge). I would be grateful for any opinions upon this, I believe, truly unfortunate ocurrence. It is utterly despicable.
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We are in the midst of large scale general disobedience to basic Catholic moral teachings by Catholics in most areas, and this is not just the laypeople, universities, etc. but in all areas, the religious orders, the priesthood, yes the bishops as we’ve seen from the resistance of some conferences to such basics as contraception.

If you wish to fix it, lead the life that these people are not leading and encourage others to do so, and your personal holiness will help assuage God, and spread grace.

And have faith! 😃
 
Shin said:
We are in the midst of large scale general disobedience to basic Catholic moral teachings by Catholics in most areas, and this is not just the laypeople, universities, etc. but in all areas, the religious orders, the priesthood, yes the bishops as we’ve seen from the resistance of some conferences to such basics as contraception.

If you wish to fix it, lead the life that these people are not leading and encourage others to do so, and your personal holiness will help assuage God, and spread grace.

And have faith! 😃
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Lots of catholics have been having Novenas and Rosaries over all this. It’s not “fixing” anything the eye can see.
 
The nuns who taught us before Vatican II must be rolling over in their graves when they hear of such setups. :eek:
 
Shin said:
I’ve seen it. 🙂
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I’ve seen them praying too. But, I am not putting on a happy face about it. (that emoticon in your post begs the question) No results.:o yet.
It seems to be getting worse, not better. Much worse for catholics in this sense. Hospitals also. Nothing is going on in this area to smile about now, unless you know something no one else does.
 
Jolly_Joe said:
One men’s dorm I stayed in I couldn’t shower before 7 because up to then the sleepover women were in there.
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I wonder if it was because you were in the men’s dorm. In the woman’s dorm, someone would have narked. One man in the bathroom at the wrong time and the whole gig would be up, assuming someone in the administration cared enough to enforce the rules.
 
ProVobis said:
The nuns who taught us before Vatican II must be rolling over in their graves when they hear of such setups. :eek:
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Depends which you ask. How about the ones who think they are “ordained”?
 
StrawberryJam said:
I’ve seen them praying too. But, I am not putting on a happy face about it. (that emoticon in your post begs the question) No results.:o yet.
It seems to be getting worse, not better. Much worse for catholics in this sense. Hospitals also. Nothing is going on in this area to smile about now, unless you know something no one else does.
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The world is never all black. And grace and prayers always work to change the world.

Why not go to a pro-life pharmacy, read about how the majority of Americans view abortion as wrong, or the success of some anti-abortion campaigns.

Every day people turn away from the abortion mills because of prayer and work. Lives are saved. More and more priests are becoming more and more faithful and obedient. The Pope exhorts bishops, and signs are, there is more courage to speak out.

Step by step the world is getting righter. Persecution will separate the wheat more greatly from the chaff. One way or another, it will all work out for the best. 🙂

If you want to live life with God, the capacity is always there to do it, however great and many the obstacles, grace only increases.
 
Why is it “un-Catholic” for males and females to live in close proximity?

I myself have personally been within MERE INCHES of men at work, in public places, on the bus, etc., and not once did I ever jump them and have sex with them. 😉

Miz
 
False also and harmful to Christian education is the so-called method “co-education.” This too, by many of its supporters is founded upon naturalism and the denial of original sin; but by all, upon a deplorable confusion of ideas that mistakes a leveling promiscuity and equality, for the legitimate association of the sexes. The Creator has ordained and disposed perfect union of the sexes only in matrimony, and, with varying degrees of contact, in the family and in society. Besides there is not in nature itself, which fashions the two quite different in organism, in temperament, in abilities, anything to suggest that there can be or ought to be promiscuity, and much less equality in the training of the two sexes. These, in keeping with the wonderful designs of the Creator, are destined to complement each other in the family and in society, precisely because of the differences, which therefore ought to be maintained and encouraged during their years of formation with the necessary distinction and corresponding separation, according to age and circumstances. These principles, with due regard to time and place, must in accordance with Christian prudence, be applied to all schools particularly in the most delicate and decisive period of formation, that, namely, of adolescence; and in gymnastic exercises and deportment, special care must be had of Christian modesty in young women and girls, which is so gravely impaired by any kind of exhibition in public.

Pope Pius XI, “Christian Education of Youth”
 
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