It is somehow insulting or dehumanizing to be compared to someone because those persons suffer from an inclination towards sexual deviancy?
Would that it were possible. Alas, many threads on CAF tend to veer wildly off course into insults, hyperbole, hair splitting, and score keeping.
This post is both charitable and on-topic…how, LOL?
The comparison of pedo…to homosexuality is insulting because it is false. It tries to form equivalency between actions and inclinations that are different.mrsdizzyd:
This post is both charitable and on-topic…how, LOL?
I’d love to have these conversations face-to-face, but it is CAF or nothing for me.
I take issue to saying that comparisons to a person afflicted with pedophilia are inherently insulting, by the way. They are persons, too. They did not ask for their condition. Let’s stay charitable. The comparison may be irrelevant, on the premise that the inclinations are inherently different, but it is not inherently insulting for one sinful inclination that someone might get without asking for it to be compared to another.
The objection that something is a false comparison is not the same as saying it is an insulting comparison. It is false to say that dogs are just like cats, but you’d have to demean either dogs or cats to find it insulting to compare one group to the other.
Science has moved away from the idea that there’s a “gay gene”. It may still be possible gay people are “born that way”, since one non-genetic factor that is believed to play a role is hormone exposure in the womb. Obviously, that is still outside the person’s control, as are many environmental influences.
Even then, it is less “homosexual behavior” and more that such intercourse is considered wrong under any circumstance. If a married man and woman commit sodomy with each other, it is just as wrong as if two men do it.
In Genesis, God instituted marriage prior to the Fall. It predates any form of concupiscence.
It’s only insulting when YOU are the one misrepresented falsely.goout:
The objection that something is a false comparison is not the same as saying it is an insulting comparison. It is false to say that dogs are just like cats, but you’d have to demean either dogs or cats to find it insulting to compare one group to the other.
Not to mention it plays into old and dangerous tropes about all pedophiles being homosexual. There has been a lot of violence committed against LGBT persons because of this particular trope. It’s best if we steer clear of it entirely.
It is irrelevant, besides. Offenses against moral law are not restricted to those things which we have no inherent inclination to do. It does not matter if we are born with a temperament that inclines us to angry outbursts or if we are that way because of our environment. Angry outbursts are not acceptable. Understanding where an inclination to angry outbursts come from could be very useful in terms of self-mastery and self-acceptance, but it doesn’t excuse the outbursts.
It would be a good idea to suppress violence against pedophiles, too, yes? Saying that it is insulting to be compared to one doesn’t exactly accomplish that. If we don’t want to subject people to violence, we shouldn’t go around saying it is insulting to be compared to one of them. That is dehumanizing and implies that they don’t deserve to be treated with the dignity (and safety) expected for other human beings.
This thread is about homosexuality and homosexual sex acts not pedophilia. If you want to continue this line of argument you should start another thread rather than continuing to veer off topic.mrsdizzyd:
It would be a good idea to suppress violence against pedophiles, too, yes? Saying that it is insulting to be compared to one doesn’t exactly accomplish that. If we don’t want to subject people to violence, we shouldn’t go around saying it is insulting to be compared to one of them. That is dehumanizing and implies that they don’t deserve to be treated with the dignity (and safety) expected for other human beings.