How can a person know that they are truly walking according to God's will?

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** a judicial act of God **
Indeed it is. But one thing we must remember is God is just. He does not declare anyone justified unless they are actually justified.

Justification is not IMPUTED. Rather we are INFUSED with grace so that we may lead holy lives such that when God declares us justified it is because we truly justified.
**This tax-gatherer’s justification was an instantaneous reality. There was no process, **
No it was not instantaneous, and yes there was process.

The process was this tax collector’s coming to a realization of his sinfulness. And that is a process and for some it is either long or short.

And it was not instantaneous. God sowed the seed of repentance in the tax collectors heart and allowed it to germinate. God plants the seed of grace, waters it and allows it to flower. And when we come to this realization of what abjectly mired in sin we are then the transformation comes in. We become humble which is the opposite of Adam’s pride.
 
How can a person know that they are truly walking according to God’s will?

Blessings,
SHW
I believe that He reveals that to some, but not to others. I’ve been praying to do God’s will since I reverted back to Catholicism. I still have no idea what I’m supposed to do.

Recently, I’ve come to the conclusion that if you still, after years and years of discernment, have no idea what God wants you to do, then the point He’s trying to get across to you is to trust in His providence and accept whatever is before you.

In other words, if it doesn’t feel like a strong calling, don’t guess. I’ve done enough of guessing these last 10 years and all of them have ended up fruitless. I’m now just taking it one day at a time.
 
I believe that He reveals that to some, but not to others. I’ve been praying to do God’s will since I reverted back to Catholicism. I still have no idea what I’m supposed to do.

Recently, I’ve come to the conclusion that if you still, after years and years of discernment, have no idea what God wants you to do, then the point He’s trying to get across to you is to trust in His providence and accept whatever is before you.

In other words, if it doesn’t feel like a strong calling, don’t guess. I’ve done enough of guessing these last 10 years and all of them have ended up fruitless. I’m now just taking it one day at a time.
Beautiful, beautiful post!

It could also be that God is saying “wait”.

Indeed accept what is before you.

I think a very apt phrase to remember in this instance is to "Bloom where you are planted’.

Be Christ to another and let another be Christ to you whatever soil God has seen it fit to plant you.
 
Beautiful, beautiful post!

It could also be that God is saying “wait”.

Indeed accept what is before you.

I think a very apt phrase to remember in this instance is to "Bloom where you are planted’.

Be Christ to another and let another be Christ to you whatever soil God has seen it fit to plant you.
I think it could also mean that God is saying He may have already used me in my own confusion, but I don’t realize it.

Whatever the case, it’s in His hands. And I’m okay with that.

Finally! 👍
 
Indeed that is NOT what we discover. Matthew 25:31-46 again.

But while we are saved by grace (meaning it is all gratis, free) through faith, it is not by faith ALONE. The ALONE bit is what is contentious.

As a matter of fact, the only place in the bible where the phrase “faith alone” can be found is in James where it says "A person is justified by works NOT BY FAITH ALONE.

And I agree that these verses do say that faith in Him is important.

But the problem with shoring up you position with this is that you forget that there are verses that say other wise.
As I mentioned above Matthew 25:31-46 did not make mention of any faith in Him.

As a matter of fact, all he says is that when we do these goods works, to the least of His brethren we do it to him. And it is this good works that gain you entrance to the kingdom. Because as the passage goes, when the righteous get into the kingdom they ask the king : Lord when did we do these to you? So clearly, they had not known let alone, professed Jesus as Lord and Saviour.

And on another occasion He says it is not those who call Him Lord, Lord but those who **DO **the will of His Father who well be saved.

While those who have faith in Him will indeed be saved, the saved are not limited to those who have faith in him. That is a very important distinction to make here.

And that is correct. All these people were healed because of their faith. But where does it say only those who have faith will be saved. ?

And the one glaring fact that you fail to see in this parable is that Jesus declared this man justified because he actually was justified because of his humility.

He was justified because he was humble. He recognized his sin. There was no pride in him. That is why he was justified. Jesus did not just declare him justified and underneath he was still mired in sin. No he declared him justified because of in his humility in acknowleging his sinfulness, his sins were forgiven.

Notice that he could have declared the pharisee justified as well but he did not. Why,? Because the pharisee was proud. He thought he was good.

This parable in fact supports the Catholic position that one is not merely declared justified. The grace of God has worked on this man and this made him see how sinful he was. There was not hiding from his sin. There was no pride.
He was justified because he was humble. He recognized his sin. There was no pride in him. That is why he was justified. Jesus did not just declare him justified and underneath he was still mired in sin. No he declared him justified because of in his humility in acknowleging his sinfulness, his sins were forgiven.
That is justification; a moment in time when one is forgiven of all of their sins, past, present and future; a gift of God. What you just declared is what I have said, but it is NOT what your church teaches. I pray you don’t continue in blind faith in a church and turn to the source of salvation written in the Scripture. Be like the Bereans and test what you are taught by your church to see if it is true. If it is not, then it is to be rejected. But that is between you and God. Peace to you!
 
I think it could also mean that God is saying He may have already used me in my own confusion, but I don’t realize it.

Whatever the case, it’s in His hands. And I’m okay with that.

Finally! 👍
Stop saying such beautiful things. You are making me cry!

Based entirely on your two above posts, I think you have been wonderfully graced, a beautiful soul.
 
**That is justification; a moment in time when one is forgiven of all of their sins, past, present and future; a gift of God. **
Only partly true, because that one moment in time when you are declared justified, IS ONLY THE CULMINATION OF THE PROCESS THAT HE BEGAN IN YOU.

It is like graduating. You studied all these years and finally you graduate and the Dean declares you a BA, Phd, etc.

The forgiveness of our sins came after this process of coming into repentance. And as I said, that process can be long or short.

Some have this miraculous split second awakening some take years. But even that seemingly split second awakening is probably the result of an internal growth in humility that is not visible on the surface.
**What you just declared is what I have said, but it is NOT what your church teaches. **
What I have written is 100% Catholic. I write nothing that I have not learned from the Catholic Church. (Or at least I hope not… someone correct me quickly )
 
I believe that He reveals that to some, but not to others. I’ve been praying to do God’s will since I reverted back to Catholicism. I still have no idea what I’m supposed to do.

Recently, I’ve come to the conclusion that if you still, after years and years of discernment, have no idea what God wants you to do, then the point He’s trying to get across to you is to trust in His providence and accept whatever is before you.

In other words, if it doesn’t feel like a strong calling, don’t guess. I’ve done enough of guessing these last 10 years and all of them have ended up fruitless. I’m now just taking it one day at a time.
**God’s for the regenerate is not hidden. I have posted four of the six major “wills” God has for His children. Number 5 will be posted tomorrow. God’s will is for one to be Saved, Spirit-controlled, Sanctified, and Submissive. Basically, if you don’t know God’s will, then you are either unregenerate or weak and need some building up. Hopefully you are the latter and these 6 “wills” will open your understanding. Here is the exerp from “will” number two written earlier in the week.

Ephesians 5:17 “So then do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is.” Do not be foolish, Aphron, (senseless, foolish, or stupid), which is to think, ah, the alpha privative to be unthinking, to be ignorant, to be destitute of knowledge, to be simple minded. Don’t be ignorant, but understand what the will of the Lord is. **
 
God’s for the regenerate is not hidden. I have posted four of the six major “wills” God has for His children. Number 5 will be posted tomorrow. God’s will is for one to be Saved, Spirit-controlled, Sanctified, and Submissive. Basically, if you don’t know God’s will, then you are either unregenerate or weak and need some building up. Hopefully you are the latter and these 6 “wills” will open your understanding. Here is the exerp from “will” number two written earlier in the week.

**Ephesians 5:17 “So then do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is.” Do not be foolish, Aphron, (senseless, foolish, or stupid), which is to think, ah, the alpha privative to be unthinking, to be ignorant, to be destitute of knowledge, to be simple minded. Don’t be ignorant, but understand what the will of the Lord is. **
In the same way you misundertood LilyM, you misunderstand Snerticus.

It is about the day to day application of the Lord’s will that Snerticus speaks of.

For example, let me ask you. Assuming you are unmarried at this stage, how do you decide whether God wants you to remain unmarried, to become a priest or nun (if you are catholic) or to get married.

And if you decide to be a priest or nun, which order to join.

That is why I think Snerticus post is truly beautiful. There is just this humble acceptance of God’s will in his life.

St Ignatius of Loyola came up with the Rules for the Discernment of spirits.

A very helpful guide which you might want to read.
 
In the same way you misundertood LilyM, you misunderstand Snerticus.

It is about the day to day application of the Lord’s will that Snerticus speaks of.

For example, let me ask you. Assuming you are unmarried at this stage, how do you decide whether God wants you to remain unmarried, to become a priest or nun (if you are catholic) or to get married.

And if you decide to be a priest or nun, which order to join.

That is why I think Snerticus post is truly beautiful. There is just this humble acceptance of God’s will in his life.

St Ignatius of Loyola came up with the Rules for the Discernment of spirits.

A very helpful guide which you might want to read.
It is an easy question to answer and can be found in the Bible. Once you are doing God’s will - do what you want because at that point because you will be doing God’s will anyway. So get married. I can’t say be a Catholic nun or a Catholic priest because that would not be God’s will for anyone.
 
**It is an easy question to answer and can be found in the Bible. Once you are doing God’s will -do what you want because at that point because you will be doing God’s will anyway. **
But that is precisely the question. How can you be doing God’s will if you are still trying to figure out what that it is? You are begging the question here.

A more apt saying which is related to your statement is Love God and do what you will.
So get married. I can’t say be a Catholic nun or a Catholic priest because that would not be God’s will for anyone.
And how do you know that that is not God’s will for anyone? You are presuming to know what God’s will is for someone else?

So it is inconceivable for you to forsake all for God? To love God so much that you devote your whole life in service of Him?
 
We are to know, love, and serve God.

If you are going about your daily routines, like eating, and have not praised and thanked God then you do not know, love, and serve God. How do we expect to hear from God if we do not give him his due?

Most folks can start doing God’s willl by simply taking care of their families, doing their jobs, and tending to their responsibilities without complaining.

Doing God’s will starts out with the simple things, not trying to convert whole continents.

Eddie
 
We are to know, love, and serve God.

If you are going about your daily routines, like eating, and have not praised and thanked God then you do not know, love, and serve God. How do we expect to hear from God if we do not give him his due?

Most folks can start doing God’s willl by simply taking care of their families, doing their jobs, and tending to their responsibilities without complaining.

Doing God’s will starts out with the simple things, not trying to convert whole continents.

Eddie
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A perfect biblical example of justification is the tax collector and the Pharisee.

Luke 18:13-14 13 "But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, the sinner!’ 14 “I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.”

So if that tax collector were to die 5 minutes after Jesus said that; where would he be? Heaven. Notice there is nothing the man did on his own; Jesus declared him justified. This the way anyone is saved. Your Church teaches you that justification is a process; it is an obvious error and a potentially damning one.
No one went to heaven until Jesus ascended into heaven. The gates were closed. Man was an enemy of God. Romans 5 Jesus reconciled us to God by His death on the cross and He opened the gates of heaven after He ascended to His Father. (John 3:13, John 20:17)

If a person dies 5 minutes after he is baptized and he does not sin in that 5 minutes, he goes straight to heaven. This is Catholic doctrine. He was in the state of grace when he died and he had no personal sins to atone for since baptism removes both original and personal sins from our souls.

Most people, however, live a long life after their baptisms, so they must “work out their salvation with fear and trembling” because “your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.” (Philippians 2:12 1 Peter 5:6-8) For most persons, salvation is a life-long process.

Blessings,
SHW
 
** a judicial act of God
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This tax-gatherer’s justification was an instantaneous reality. There was no process, no time lapse, no fear of purgatory. He “went down to his house justified” (v. 14)–not because of anything he had done, but because of what had been done on his behalf.

Notice that the tax-collector understood his own helplessness. He owed an impossible debt he knew he could not pay. All he could do was repent and plead for mercy. Contrast his prayer with that of the arrogant Pharisee. He did not recite what he had done. He knew that even his best works were sin. He did not offer to do anything for God. He simply pleaded for divine mercy. He was looking for God to do for him what he could not do for himself. That is the very nature of the penitence Jesus called for.

by faith alone

Furthermore, this man went away justified without performing any works of penance, without doing any sacrament or ritual, without any meritorious works whatsoever. His justification was complete without any of those things, because it was solely on the basis of faith. Everything necessary to atone for his sin and provide forgiveness had already been done on his behalf. He was justified by faith on the spot.

Again, he makes a stark contrast with the smug Pharisee, who was so certain that all his fasting and tithing and other works made him acceptable to God. But while the working Pharisee remained unjustified, the believing tax-gatherer received full justification by faith alone.

an imputed righteousness

Remember Jesus’ statement from the Sermon on the Mount, “Unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall not enter the kingdom of heaven” (Matt. 5:20)? Yet now He states that this tax-gatherer–the most wicked of men–was justified! How did such a sinner obtain a righteousness that exceeded that of the Pharisee? If the standard is divine perfection (v. 48), how could a traitorous tax-collector ever become just in God’s eyes?

The only possible answer is that he received a righteousness that was not his own (cf. Phil. 3:9). Righteousness was imputed to him by faith (Rom. 4:9-11).

Whose righteousness was reckoned to him? It could only be the perfect righteousness of a flawless Substitute, who in turn must bear the tax-gatherer’s sins and suffer the penalty of God’s wrath in his place. And the gospel tells us that is precisely what Jesus did.

The tax-gatherer was justified. God declared him righteous, imputing to him the full and perfect righteousness of Christ, forgiving him of all unrighteousness, and delivering him from all condemnation. Forever thereafter he stood before God on the ground of a perfect righteousness that had been reckoned to his account.

That is what justification means. It is the only true gospel. All other points of theology emanate from it. As Packer wrote, “The doctrine of justification by faith is like Atlas: it bears a world on its shoulders, the entire evangelical knowledge of saving grace.” The difference between Rome and the Reformers is not theological hair-splitting. A right understanding of justification by faith is the very foundation of the gospel. You cannot go wrong on this point without corrupting every other doctrine as well. And that is why every “different gospel” is under the eternal curse of God.

You cannot say that Luther invented the idea of justification by faith alone. Long before Luther it was taught by Augustine and Paul and Jesus and Moses. Even back in the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve realized soon after their sin that the fig leaves with which they tried to cover their shame were woefully inadequate. The gospel is given in Genesis 3:21 when Moses tells us that God clothed them. They needed something they couldn’t provide for themselves; and God giving man what man needs to stand in His favorable presence is the essence of the gospel. Luther merely restated what true Christians have understood for centuries, that justification is by faith alone.
I think you miss a key point … neither man knew where he stood before God at that particular moment. In fact … they stood opposite of where they thought they were so my take is be honest with yourself and with God and trust in his mercy … so what other guarantees do you need?

I think way too much is placed on getting this absolute assurance or guarantee that I will be in heaven or am I justified or righteous … as if God is somehow going to overlook something important, the fact of the matter is He doesn’t miss a thing.

The assurance of the Pharisee is his undoing.

The tax collector’s prayer is known as the Jesus prayer … “Lord, Jesus Christ, son of the Living God have mercy on me a sinner.”
 
It is an easy question to answer and can be found in the Bible. Once you are doing God’s will - do what you want because at that point because you will be doing God’s will anyway. So get married. I can’t say be a Catholic nun or a Catholic priest because that would not be God’s will for anyone.
The question, in my mind, is not the doing … it’s the discerning. I, for one, will say all on this thread want to God’s will so it’s not the doing it’s the knowing. I had forgotten about a piece I had found a few years ago.

Peter Kreeft, a theology professor at Boston College, has an excellent piece on discernment. I have used some of his suggestions in the past when I have discussed this sort of topic with 8th grade Faith Formation classes.

peterkreeft.com/topics/discernment.htm
 
God’s for the regenerate is not hidden. I have posted four of the six major “wills” God has for His children. Number 5 will be posted tomorrow. God’s will is for one to be Saved, Spirit-controlled, Sanctified, and Submissive. Basically, if you don’t know God’s will, then you are either unregenerate or weak and need some building up. Hopefully you are the latter and these 6 “wills” will open your understanding. Here is the exerp from “will” number two written earlier in the week.

**Ephesians 5:17 “So then do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is.” Do not be foolish, Aphron, (senseless, foolish, or stupid), which is to think, ah, the alpha privative to be unthinking, to be ignorant, to be destitute of knowledge, to be simple minded. Don’t be ignorant, but understand what the will of the Lord is. **
Sorry, I misunderstood the question. I thought a Catholic was asking it. The implications are much different.

My answer stands if it was a Catholic question, but since it is not and it is really just asking “are we obeying God”, then I have no comment since we must follow Jesus’ words to do the Father’s will.

If a Catholic was asking it,* most likely* the question would mean something more on the lines of “how do you know you are answering God’s call in your life”.

So… in essence…

Nevermind. 🙂
 
Sorry, I misunderstood the question. I thought a Catholic was asking it. The implications are much different.

My answer stands if it was a Catholic question, but since it is not and it is really just asking “are we obeying God”, then I have no comment since we must follow Jesus’ words to do the Father’s will.

If a Catholic was asking it,* most likely* the question would mean something more on the lines of “how do you know you are answering God’s call in your life”.

So… in essence…

Nevermind. 🙂
The answer should be the same shouldn’t it? If the Catholic teaching is in line with Scripture as Catholics claim.
 
The question, in my mind, is not the doing … it’s the discerning. I, for one, will say all on this thread want to God’s will so it’s not the doing it’s the knowing. I had forgotten about a piece I had found a few years ago.

Peter Kreeft, a theology professor at Boston College, has an excellent piece on discernment. I have used some of his suggestions in the past when I have discussed this sort of topic with 8th grade Faith Formation classes.

peterkreeft.com/topics/discernment.htm
God does not hide His will for regenerate people, but for the unregenerate; it will remain hidden. Look at Israel. Once you know and do, then any decision you make will be according to God’s will. So questions like, who should I marry, what school should I attend or what job should I accept becomes a simple decision. So as far as discernment is important; but in light of what God tells us, it is not very complicated, but impossible to discern for unregenerate people, which are of the many.
 
Knowing God’s will #5

**Number five, His will is that you suffer. 1 Peter 3:17 “It is better,” writes Peter, “It is better if God should will it so that you suffer for doing what is right rather than for doing what is wrong.” God wills our suffering. That’s right. God wills our suffering because he knows what it does for us. Back in chapter 2 verse 20 he says, “If you do what is right and suffer for it and endure that suffering, this finds favor with God.” God is pleased when we suffer and we endure it. Chapter 4 verse 19, “Let those who suffer according to the will of God,” that’s what it says. “Let those who suffer according to the will of God,” 1 Peter 4:19, “and trust their souls to a faithful creator in doing what is right.” So you’re doing what is right. You keep doing what is right. You start to suffer for doing what is right and you endure that suffering and trust in your soul to a faithful God. And you are, in a sense, following the example of Christ, who, being perfect, still suffered.

Suffering is part of what God wants to do in your life. Suffering is what perfects you. Not talking about sinful suffering. Suffering for doing what is wrong, that’s consequence of bad behavior. God wants you to face this hostile world in such a godly fashion, living such a godly life that it will bring reproach, scorn, difficulty and alienation from family and friends and who knows where and when? And all of that suffering will cause God to perfect you. Can’t have all joy, when you fall into various trials, they have a perfect work. 1 Peter 5:10, “After you’ve suffered awhile, the Lord make you mature, perfect.” Suffering for righteousness’ sake, living such a righteous life in and unrighteous world that the unrighteous world reacts when confronted by such virtue and such devotion and such truth as we live and proclaim for Christ. All who live Godly in this present world, 2 Timothy 3:12, will suffer persecution, some more than others. It is the will of God that you suffer for doing what is right, that you might thereby be humbled and strengthened.

In 2 Corinthians 12 the apostle Paul tells us that he had embraced his suffering. He embraced it because he saw in it the hand of God. He says he was given a thorn in the flesh. He said, “I asked the Lord to remove it three times.” He said, “My grace is sufficient. For you, power is perfected in weakness.” God knows that your spiritual power is dependent upon your weakness and your weakness is the product of your suffering. “Most gladly,” writes Paul, “I would rather boast about my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may dwell in me so I’m content with weakness, insults, distress, persecutions and difficulties for Christ’s sake. For when I’m weak, then I’m strong.”

I’m not talking about suffering from doing wrong, but suffering from doing right. Take that suffering and be bold and be courageous and let God do his perfect work.

So God’s will is that you be Saved, Spirit-controlled, Sanctified, Submissive and Suffering.**
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Number 6 will be posted tomorrow.**
 
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