How can Jesus Christ be the One True Almighty God?

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This is the question I’ve been hearing so much lately: How can Jesus possibly be the One True God?

This is coming from their (Jehovah’s Witnesses, Remenant Fellowship members, Pentacostals & Muslims) point of view that:

1.God is All-Knowing yet Jesus “learned” and also specifically admitted to Not Knowing things, like when the end of the world would be
  1. Jesus never once (in plain language) ever claimed to be God - they say if that were the case, He would have said it clearly so that there would never be any confusion as to Who He claimed to be
  2. His Apostles, through St. Peter’s mouth, when asked directly said that they knew Him to be the Son of God (not God Himself), the exact same term used for King David and the ancient Israelists
 
Grace and Peace,

As a Catholic are you saying that you can’t answer this question?

Are you familiar with the early church councils teaching on this subject?
 
Grace and Peace,

As a Catholic are you saying that you can’t answer this question?

Are you familiar with the early church councils teaching on this subject?
Thank you, Yes & Yes.

I only know the standard - Jesus said the phrase “I am” which was code for the Jews that He meant that He’s God. And that at the first Ecumenical Council, 300 yrs after His Life, the Bishops agreed & clarified that Jesus is God, the same God as the Father, but different a Person which was hinted at by St. John in his gospel & by St. Thomas’ comment which can be taken two different ways.

I am getting stumped on some of the arguments against the Divinity of Jesus, like I’m not sure how we reconcile that Almighty God know everything, but that Jesus, Who Is Almighty God doesn’t know everything.

I don’t have the ability to Not believe that Jesus is God, but after all this I am not finding a basis for that belief. Help requested 🙂
 
St. Mark 3:12 Jesus won’t allow unclean spirits to make it know that He is the Son of God.

St. John 9:38 healed blind man worships Jesus.

St. John 10:18 Christ has the power to lay down His life and the power to take it back up again.

The reason why Christ was crucified was that He claimed to be the Son of God, a claim declaring Jesus equal to God.
 
I’m not much of a theologian, but I see the Catechism has something on this (and it is my bedtime so I cannot fully analyze it right now):

464-469 True God and True Man

470-475 How Is the Son of God Man?
 
When you say lately, I think that’s a bit troubling. Why believe all these lately stuff?🤷

MJ
Lately as in Recently - this topic has been coming up repeatedly from people of various religions: JW, Muslim, Remenant Fellowship, etc.
 
St. Mark 3:12 Jesus won’t allow unclean spirits to make it know that He is the Son of God.

The reason why Christ was crucified was that He claimed to be the Son of God, a claim declaring Jesus equal to God.
The people I’ve spoken to have a comeback for that, I hope I get it right - basically they say:
  1. Jesus never claimed to be the Son of God, He only said He was the Son of Man
  2. King David & many other Israelists were referred to as Sons of God & we all know they’re not claiming to be (& no one is believing that they are) equal to God
Their points are true, so what’s our comeback for their comeback?
 
I am getting stumped on some of the arguments against the Divinity of Jesus, like I’m not sure how we reconcile that Almighty God know everything, but that Jesus, Who Is Almighty God doesn’t know everything.

I don’t have the ability to Not believe that Jesus is God, but after all this I am not finding a basis for that belief. Help requested 🙂
Here’s the basis of defending our apostolic faith. First of all Jesus healed the blind, healed those infected with leopracy. Jesus raised the dead, forgave sin, walked on water, even the fig tree and all of nature including demons obeyed his command. He did all these things from His humanity.

Jesus is fully human and fully divine. When Jesus spoke fo the end of the world, He was speaking from our humanity, for no one knows the day the time when the end of world takes place. Although Jesus divinity knows perfectly well when this day will come, but it is not for humans too know the date and time of the end of the world., thus Jesus speaks form his humanity which we all know, that we don’t know the end of the world.

Peace be with you
 
I assume that you are speaking with “oneness” Pentecostals. That non-Trinitarian variety of Pentecostal, as well as Muslims, do not hold to, or understand, the concept of the hypostatic union. That is how Jesus could learn, and not know everything that the Father did.
 
This is the question I’ve been hearing so much lately: How can Jesus possibly be the One True God?

This is coming from their (Jehovah’s Witnesses, Remenant Fellowship members, Pentacostals & Muslims) point of view that:

1.God is All-Knowing yet Jesus “learned” and also specifically admitted to Not Knowing things, like when the end of the world would be
Im not sure how to answer this one very well, but Id say it might have something to do with him being fully God and fully man, in the sense that as a man he would learn like the rest of us.
  1. Jesus never once (in plain language) ever claimed to be God - they say if that were the case, He would have said it clearly so that there would never be any confusion as to Who He claimed to be
He said he was the Son of God. And as the Son of God that made him equal with God. He was God in the flesh.

John 14:8-14

**8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.**
  1. His Apostles, through St. Peter’s mouth, when asked directly said that they knew Him to be the Son of God (not God Himself), the exact same term used for King David and the ancient Israelists
He was the Son of God and as the only begotten son of God, he was one with the father and the father was one with him.

God from God, Light from Light, True God from True God. Begotten not made, consubstantial with the father, through him all things were made.
The people I’ve spoken to have a comeback for that, I hope I get it right - basically they say:
  1. Jesus never claimed to be the Son of God, He only said He was the Son of Man
He was put to death for admitting to being the Son of God when he was being trialed by the high priests.

**Matthew 26:62-66

62 And the high priest arose and said to Him, “Do You answer nothing? What is it these men testify against You?” 63 But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest answered and said to Him, “I put You under oath by the living God: Tell us if You are the Christ, the Son of God!”

64 Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

65 Then the high priest tore his clothes, saying, “He has spoken blasphemy! What further need do we have of witnesses? Look, now you have heard His blasphemy! 66 What do you think?”

They answered and said, “He is deserving of death.”**
  1. King David & many other Israelists were referred to as Sons of God & we all know they’re not claiming to be (& no one is believing that they are) equal to God
Their points are true, so what’s our comeback for their comeback?
Your comeback is the Gospel passages I quoted.

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
In essence, there are only two heresies: 1) Jesus is not God and 2) Jesus is not man. All are variations on these two mis-directed themes. Since no amount of scripture will ever convince a hardened heart, at least the catechism explains why we believe what we believe. From the catechism:

252 The Church uses (I) the term “substance” (rendered also at times by “essence” or “nature”) to designate the divine being in its unity, (II) the term “person” or “hypostasis” to designate the Father, Son and Holy Spirit in the real distinction among them, and (III) the term “relation” to designate the fact that their distinction lies in the relationship of each to the others.

III. TRUE GOD AND TRUE MAN

464
The unique and altogether singular event of the Incarnation of the Son of God does not mean that Jesus Christ is part God and part man, nor does it imply that he is the result of a confused mixture of the divine and the human. He became truly man while remaining truly God. Jesus Christ is true God and true man.

During the first centuries, the Church had to defend and clarify this truth of faith against the heresies that falsified it.

465 The first heresies denied not so much Christ’s divinity as his true humanity (Gnostic Docetism). From apostolic times the Christian faith has insisted on the true incarnation of God’s Son “come in the flesh”.87 But already in the third century, the Church in a council at Antioch had to affirm against Paul of Samosata that Jesus Christ is Son of God by nature and not by adoption. The first ecumenical council of Nicaea in 325 confessed in its Creed that the Son of God is “begotten, not made, of the same substance (homoousios) as the Father”, and condemned Arius, who had affirmed that the Son of God “came to be from things that were not” and that he was “from another substance” than that of the Father.88

466 The Nestorian heresy regarded Christ as a human person joined to the divine person of God’s Son. Opposing this heresy, St. Cyril of Alexandria and the third ecumenical council, at Ephesus in 431, confessed "that the Word, uniting to himself in his person the flesh animated by a rational soul, became man."89 Christ’s humanity has no other subject than the divine person of the Son of God, who assumed it and made it his own, from his conception. For this reason the Council of Ephesus proclaimed in 431 that Mary truly became the Mother of God by the human conception of the Son of God in her womb: "Mother of God, not that the nature of the Word or his divinity received the beginning of its existence from the holy Virgin, but that, since the holy body, animated by a rational soul, which the Word of God united to himself according to the hypostasis, was born from her, the Word is said to be born according to the flesh."90

467 The Monophysites affirmed that the human nature had ceased to exist as such in Christ when the divine person of God’s Son assumed it. Faced with this heresy, the fourth ecumenical council, at Chalcedon in 451, confessed:

Following the holy Fathers, we unanimously teach and confess one and the same Son, our Lord Jesus Christ: the same perfect in divinity and perfect in humanity, the same truly God and truly man, composed of rational soul and body; consubstantial with the Father as to his divinity and consubstantial with us as to his humanity; “like us in all things but sin”. He was begotten from the Father before all ages as to his divinity and in these last days, for us and for our salvation, was born as to his humanity of the virgin Mary, the Mother of God.91
We confess that one and the same Christ, Lord, and only-begotten Son, is to be acknowledged in two natures without confusion, change, division or separation. The distinction between the natures was never abolished by their union, but rather the character proper to each of the two natures was preserved as they came together in one person (prosopon) and one hypostasis.92

468 After the Council of Chalcedon, some made of Christ’s human nature a kind of personal subject. Against them, the fifth ecumenical council, at Constantinople in 553, confessed that "there is but one hypostasis [or person], which is our Lord Jesus Christ, one of the Trinity."93 Thus everything in Christ’s human nature is to be attributed to his divine person as its proper subject, not only his miracles but also his sufferings and even his death: "He who was crucified in the flesh, our Lord Jesus Christ, is true God, Lord of glory, and one of the Holy Trinity."94

469 The Church thus confesses that Jesus is inseparably true God and true man. He is truly the Son of God who, without ceasing to be God and Lord, became a man and our brother:

“What he was, he remained and what he was not, he assumed”, sings the Roman Liturgy.95 And the liturgy of St. John Chrysostom proclaims and sings: “O only-begotten Son and Word of God, immortal being, you who deigned for our salvation to become incarnate of the holy Mother of God and ever-virgin Mary, you who without change became man and were crucified, O Christ our God, you who by your death have crushed death, you who are one of the Holy Trinity, glorified with the Father and the Holy Spirit, save us!”
 
This is the question I’ve been hearing so much lately: How can Jesus possibly be the One True God?

This is coming from their (Jehovah’s Witnesses, Remenant Fellowship members, Pentacostals & Muslims) point of view that:

1.God is All-Knowing yet Jesus “learned” and also specifically admitted to Not Knowing things, like when the end of the world would be
  1. Jesus never once (in plain language) ever claimed to be God - they say if that were the case, He would have said it clearly so that there would never be any confusion as to Who He claimed to be
  2. His Apostles, through St. Peter’s mouth, when asked directly said that they knew Him to be the Son of God (not God Himself), the exact same term used for King David and the ancient Israelists
He did plainly state that he is God, John 8:58
 
He did plainly state that he is God, John 8:58
Re-read that passage, He said “I am” before Abramham, but He did Not say “I am God.” I know that it is our interpretation of the phrase “I am” that He meant He is God, but He never said that about Himself in a clear manner.
 
Re-read that passage, He said “I am” before Abramham, but He did Not say “I am God.” I know that it is our interpretation of the phrase “I am” that He meant He is God, but He never said that about Himself in a clear manner.
With Muslims, the claim is that the scriptures are corrupted. With oneness Pentecostals, the entire NT is privately interpreted to meet their beliefs. What can we do? Pray for them and for their faith, so that they might understand.
 
What about St. Thomas’ words upon encountering the risen Christ: “My Lord and my God”? 🤷
 
Re-read that passage, He said “I am” before Abramham, but He did Not say “I am God.” I know that it is our interpretation of the phrase “I am” that He meant He is God, but He never said that about Himself in a clear manner.
He said he was the Son of God. And as the Son of God that made him equal with God. He also said that he was one with the father and the father was one with him, if you have seen the son you have also seen the father. He was God in the flesh.
John 10:30-33
30 I and my Father are one.
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
John 14:8-14
8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.
John 3:17
17 ‘Indeed, God did not send the Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Matthew 26:62-66
62 And the high priest arose and said to Him, “Do You answer nothing? What is it these men testify against You?” 63 But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest answered and said to Him, “I put You under oath by the living God: Tell us if You are the Christ, the Son of God!”
64 Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

65 Then the high priest tore his clothes, saying, “He has spoken blasphemy! What further need do we have of witnesses? Look, now you have heard His blasphemy! 66 What do you think?”
They answered and said, “He is deserving of death.”
If he had not confessed to being the son of God, they could not have accused him of speaking blasphemy.
John 1:14
14 And the Word became flesh and lived among us, and we have seen his glory, the glory as of a father’s only son,* full of grace and truth.
I hope these Gospel quotes help you, God Bless.

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
With Muslims, the claim is that the scriptures are corrupted. With oneness Pentecostals, the entire NT is privately interpreted to meet their beliefs. What can we do? Pray for them and for their faith, so that they might understand.
How could Jesus " I am God" just like that? Sounds like a mad man! People would have said he’s simply crazy and have nothing to do with him. :hmmm:

MJ
 
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