Do forgive any nitpicking on my part.
I do understand what you were aiming at, but we have lurkers and seekers who would miss the point entirely and focus solely on your example, which was not your intention. Yes, Henry 8 would be a much better example. May God have mercy on his soul and on all of us. 
I like the way you’ve written this. A very visionary understanding of what true unity is!
I think your copy of the Bible is missing a lot of pages.
May God have mercy on those who believe His hands are tied up and that He would send a Jew like Anne Frank to burn in everlasting fire because her intellectual beliefs differed from his own, by fault of being born to the wrong parents.
I usually don’t respond to posts like this, but I must say I find this post uncharitable, not worthy of you or any other Christian.
Thank you. Yes, just saw a recent movie about Henry with some beheading. Ugly times but to be careful to wonder how are we ugly today, un-Christ like as a Church/Body ? BlessingsDo forgive any nitpicking on my part.
As you are Jew, that’s not your determination to make. That all should recognize Christ is the Holy Bible’s idea, not mine. From the Gospel of St. John, chapter 1, verse 12: “But as many as received him, he gave them power to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in his name.”
I don’t know if you speak for the Coptic, but quoting Bible verses out of context is not the way to convince anyone of anything. As a Catholic I can say that this verse does not condemn anyone for anything and doesn’t speak of who is damned and who isn’t.
I’m surprised to read a Coptic reacting like a Bible-only Fundamentalist. Your comments are not how the Catholic Church views non-Christians. I agree with another poster who wrote that your posts are uncharitable and not in line with CAF’s forum rules.Nothing in there about how people who do not believe in Christ are somehow to be counted among those who do. Dematerialized theosophizing as advanced here by our resident Baha’is and others is an affront to the Christian faith. Period. It would be quite frankly much more uncharitable to let it stand and give all Christ-deniers succor as though they’re fine just the way they are. You want to preach Baha’ism, I’m sure there are places for that. I wouldn’t think that Catholic Answers forum is such a place, but perhaps I am out of step with its goals once again.
Neither is it my place to speak for another person, so I withdraw my response to your comment. However, I would note that Matthew Light spoke of unity in the specific context of the spirit of Christ and no other manifestation of G-d, so I don’t believe he is preaching his own faith.As you are Jew, that’s not your determination to make. That all should recognize Christ is the Holy Bible’s idea, not mine. From the Gospel of St. John, chapter 1, verse 12: “But as many as received him, he gave them power to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in his name.”
Nothing in there about how people who do not believe in Christ are somehow to be counted among those who do. Dematerialized theosophizing as advanced here by our resident Baha’is and others is an affront to the Christian faith. Period. It would be quite frankly much more uncharitable to let it stand and give all Christ-deniers succor as though they’re fine just the way they are. You want to preach Baha’ism, I’m sure there are places for that. I wouldn’t think that Catholic Answers forum is such a place, but perhaps I am out of step with its goals once again.
Thou art my Lord, Jesus.
I’m a Christian and your comments about the Baha’i faith is uncharitable and out of line with how Christians are supposed to address errors in other faiths and spread the true faith.As you are Jew, that’s not your determination to make. That all should recognize Christ is the Holy Bible’s idea, not mine. From the Gospel of St. John, chapter 1, verse 12: “But as many as received him, he gave them power to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in his name.”
Nothing in there about how people who do not believe in Christ are somehow to be counted among those who do. Dematerialized theosophizing as advanced here by our resident Baha’is and others is an affront to the Christian faith. Period. It would be quite frankly much more uncharitable to let it stand and give all Christ-deniers succor as though they’re fine just the way they are. You want to preach Baha’ism, I’m sure there are places for that. I wouldn’t think that Catholic Answers forum is such a place, but perhaps I am out of step with its goals once again.
Huh? The distinction to be made here that you’re missing is that Meltzerboy said that what I had written is not befitting a Christian. That is not a matter of doctrine or teaching, but of what he personally feels it’s right for a Christian to say or do. He may indeed have many ideas of what that consists of or does not consist of, but since he is not a Christian himself, those don’t matter outside of his personal opinion (which again, he’s entitled to, but he’s playing outside of his own field at that point). By means of analogy, I may have many ideas of how Muslims should behave toward Christians, but I wouldn’t expect them to abide by my idea of the Muslim moral code over and above their own, should they conflict. After all, they know the sources of their own code better than I could.
Your assumption is that his comments about how one should behave as a Christian is based off of his personal opinion formed by the Jewish faith. Unfortunately for your assumption, he has a rather clear record on these forums of having enough knowledge of the Christian faith for the base assumption to be he is talking about how a Christian should behave according to the teachings of the Christian faith.Huh? The distinction to be made here that you’re missing is that Meltzerboy said that what I had written is not befitting a Christian. That is not a matter of doctrine or teaching, but of what he personally feels it’s right for a Christian to say or do. He may indeed have many ideas of what that consists of or does not consist of, but since he is not a Christian himself, those don’t matter outside of his personal opinion (which again, he’s entitled to, but he’s playing outside of his own field at that point). By means of analogy, I may have many ideas of how Muslims should behave toward Christians, but I wouldn’t expect them to abide by my idea of the Muslim moral code over and above their own, should they conflict. After all, they know the sources of their own code better than I could.
And again, the fact is there is precedent for denouncing the false beliefs of others (including universalism, what I’ve taken issue with in Matthew Light’s posts). Indeed, we praise St. Athanasius the Apostolic as the pillar of faith that he was (y’know, Athanasius contra mundum and all that) precisely because he stood up to popular ideas that were wrong. I would never in a million years compare myself or my posting to anything he did (Lord have mercy!), either in character or in importance, but the fact remains that what he did against the false beliefs in his day did not make him less Christian as a result. Heck, we likewise remember St. Nicholas, Wonderworker and bishop of Myra in modern Turkey, and he punched Arius the heretic in the face!
So, y’know…it could be a lot worse.
Theosophy really doesn’t have anything to do with the Baha’i Faith.
I’ve specifically rejected the view that Christianity is corrupted, right here on this forum, just yesterday. And Jesus is, of course, the Son of God and Lord of us all…
You implied it by your rejection of non-Christians as being God’s children.