How can people say homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone

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Zoltan_Cobalt said:
Heterosexuality does not need to be proven.
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It actually does since you are claiming that it is innate and that homosexuality is not innate. You’re making a positive claim about heterosexuality which does actually require proof.
 
SMGS127 said:
Do you have any evidence that doesn’t come from a hate group of anything you’ve discussed? Virtually every word the FRC says has been thoroughly debunked, as they have no methodological integrity with respect to their studies. They fake studies then use the “results” to incite violence against gay people.

I’ll wait on reports of supposed non-monogamy from an actual, real researcher with sound methodology. I have a feeling I’ll be waiting a long time, since you’re just completely wrong.
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I have a feeling you will be waiting a really long time…because no one will come up with anything to bolster your argument
 
Thorolfr said:
That’s actually not true. Scientists can measure sexual arousal in gay men to erotic stimuli (such as gay pornography or pictures of naked men) just as they can measure sexual arousal in straight men to erotic stimuli (straight pornography or pictures of naked women). Besides, just to use your own argument, how can we tell that someone is heterosexual? There’s also no blood test or DNA test for that either.
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It is apparently an assumed truth we aren’t supposed to question.
 
Catholic13 said:
Are you saying an animal that tries to hump [can I say that here?] something is sexually attracted to it?
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Google “dog humps ball” and witness the stupidity of the homosexuality-occurs-in-nature argument. Just because an animal engages in a form of sex with an object or creature doesn’t mean that it is sexually attracted to it.
 
Catholic13 said:
Are you saying an animal that tries to hump [can I say that here?] something is sexually attracted to it?
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No, I’m saying that homosexual behavior has been observed in non-human animal species between two members of the same species and gender.

On a side note, I’m glad to see you accepted the fact that being Catholic and being heterosexual is harmful to society since some Catholics and heterosexuals have sex outside of marriage and spread STDs.
 
oldcatholicguy said:
No, I’m saying that homosexual behavior has been observed in non-human animal species between two members of the same species and gender.

On a side note, I’m glad to see you accepted the fact that being Catholic and being heterosexual is harmful to society since some Catholics and heterosexuals have sex outside of marriage and spread STDs.
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And would that behavior include trying to have sex with another animal?
 
Catholic13 said:
So having sex with another animal means they are sexually attracted to it?
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What does sexual attraction have to do with this? Your argument and the other poster’s argument are based on the genders of the individuals taking part in the sex act, not their motivation for taking part in the act.
 
oldcatholicguy said:
It actually does since you are claiming that it is innate and that homosexuality is not innate. You’re making a positive claim about heterosexuality which does actually require proof.
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Hmmmmm. OK…We could start with the Adam & Eve experiment. You know, Man + Woman = Children. But I like to stay away from the religious aspect.

Humans have three natural functions. We eat, sleep and procreate. The only physical or biological difference is that of sex. Male and female. Again that difference is related to procreation. It is perfectly normal and natural for man and woman to join together for the purpose of procreation because of their natural design. This is innate. Man and women are born that way.

Another form of proof that should appeal to you is the Home Depot Analogy.

In the plumbing dept you can buy a “Male” pipe fitting and you can buy a “Female” fitting. No matter how much Teflon tape or pipe-dope you use, you cannot connect two “male” fittings together.

Same with the “Female” fittings. Interesting that when you join a “Male” fitting with a “Female” fitting it creates what is known as a “UNION”. Anything else is abnormal.

One more form of proof is you. That’s right, Oldcatholicguy….you.

You are here ONLY because heterosexuality (normal, natural sexual relations) is innate.
 
oldcatholicguy said:
What does sexual attraction have to do with this? Your argument and the other poster’s argument are based on the genders of the individuals taking part in the sex act, not their motivation for taking part in the act.
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Animals can’t talk. So how does one determine if they are homosexual?
 
Zoltan_Cobalt said:
Hmmmmm. OK…We could start with the Adam & Eve experiment. You know, Man + Woman = Children. But I like to stay away from the religious aspect.

Humans have three natural functions. We eat, sleep and procreate. The only physical or biological difference is that of sex. Male and female. Again that difference is related to procreation. It is perfectly normal and natural for man and woman to join together for the purpose of procreation because of their natural design. This is innate. Man and women are born that way.

Another form of proof that should appeal to you is the Home Depot Analogy.

In the plumbing dept you can buy a “Male” pipe fitting and you can buy a “Female” fitting. No matter how much Teflon tape or pipe-dope you use, you cannot connect two “male” fittings together.

Same with the “Female” fittings. Interesting that when you join a “Male” fitting with a “Female” fitting it creates what is known as a “UNION”. Anything else is abnormal.

One more form of proof is you. That’s right, Oldcatholicguy….you.

You are here ONLY because heterosexuality (normal, natural sexual relations) is innate.
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Um, none of that actually proves that heterosexuality is innate in everyone which is what you’ve claimed.
 
oldcatholicguy said:
So homosexual activity can not be found in the animal kingdom? Or are we to assume that animal species that do display homosexual activity are somehow agents of the “pro-gay agenda”? The problem with your “it’s not natural therefore it has to be wrong” approach to homosexuality is that a) it ignores the spiritual aspect of humans and b) it’s not actually supported by nature.
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By spiritual aspect…could you mean “choice”.

And really, how can you prove that it is supported by nature. Here you’re making a positive claim about homosexuality which does actually require proof…
 
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