How can Protestants be forgiven for sins? (Please, any adivce appreciated)

[Wannano]

And I would point out that a diocese’s director of ecumenical concerns is going to be a person whose background is above and beyond merely that of The Catechism of the Catholic Church. It is a handy reference book but its utility is quickly exhausted, above all when working in specialised areas or when one is working at any theological depth.

Forgive my ignorance, but I am wondering if a director of ecumenical concerns is an upcoming position or if it already exists and that person would be one to search out for more knowledge.

 

[Eric_Hyom]

I strongly disagree that salvation is effortless! There are spiritual battles that take much attention. There is the war against the flesh, that takes all that we have. And there is resistance to the world and it’s pleasures and demands. Salvation is a free gift of God’s grace, but it takes giving up ourselves to receive. We are full of pride, lust, covetousness, anger, etc.

I love the quote by Oscar Wilde, I can resist everything…except temptation!

People of all faiths struggle with the above. Life is a constant battle against the evils of this world. I admire the Muslims, they have to pray five times a day, they seem to take modesty and fasting more seriously than we do.

 

[Don_Ruggero]

Forgive my ignorance, but I am wondering if a director of ecumenical concerns is an upcoming position or if it already exists and that person would be one to search out for more knowledge.

I am quite confident your diocese has one. It is a person…sometimes it is a priest although it can be a deacon or lay person who has completed studies in ecumenical studies and ecclesiology…who serves as a subject matter specialist and a resource specialist.

You would get far better answers there than you are here.

Answers that will not be simply citations of documents – which have to be interpreted in light of subsequent determinations in any event – but actually where we are in 2017.

That is why, today, we are jointly commemorating the Reformation. We have been planning this for years, since the Pontificate of John Paul II. It was important to all three of the Popes that this be a joint commemoration, for the first time.

Something that not only did not happen but was simply unthinkable in 1917. From the perspective of both Lutherans and Catholics equally.

How we got from October 1517 to October 2017…and most especially the events of the past 50 years…is a really remarkable and wonderful story. Some of us were fortunate enough to have lived it.

You have read From Conflict to Communion and Declaration on the Way? You would learn more there than in the posts that end up here. The former document is, in no small part, the reason that Gerhard Müller, who was then Bishop of Regensburg, and Kurt Koch, who was then Bishop of Basel, were brought to Rome and why they are Cardinals today.

 

[Wannano]

I am quite confident your diocese has one. It is a person…sometimes it is a priest although it can be a deacon or lay person who has completed studies in ecumenical studies and ecclesiology…who serves as a subject matter specialist and a resource specialist.

You would get far better answers there than you are here.

Answers that will not be simply citations of documents – which have to be interpreted in light of subsequent determinations in any event – but actually where we are in 2017.

That is why, today, we are jointly commemorating the Reformation. We have been planning this for years, since the Pontificate of John Paul II. It was important to all three of the Popes that this be a joint commemoration, for the first time.

Something that not only did not happen but was simply unthinkable in 1917. From the perspective of both Lutherans and Catholics equally.

How we got from October 1517 to October 2017…and most especially the events of the past 50 years…is a really remarkable and wonderful story. Some of us were fortunate enough to have lived it.

You have read From Conflict to Communion and Declaration on the Way? You would learn more there than in the posts that end up here. The former document is, in no small part, the reason that Gerhard Müller, who was then Bishop of Regensburg, and Kurt Koch, who was then Bishop of Basel, were brought to Rome and why they are Cardinals today.

Thank you, I understand now.

 

[Peter_J]

And I would point out that a diocese’s director of ecumenical concerns is going to be a person whose background is above and beyond merely that of The Catechism of the Catholic Church. It is a handy reference book but its utility is quickly exhausted, above all when working in specialised areas or when one is working at any theological depth.

As the old saying goes “Jesus didn’t write a book, he founded a Church.”

 

[Reuben_J]

I am quite confident your diocese has one. It is a person…sometimes it is a priest although it can be a deacon or lay person who has completed studies in ecumenical studies and ecclesiology…who serves as a subject matter specialist and a resource specialist.

You would get far better answers there than you are here.

Answers that will not be simply citations of documents – which have to be interpreted in light of subsequent determinations in any event – but actually where we are in 2017.

That is why, today, we are jointly commemorating the Reformation. We have been planning this for years, since the Pontificate of John Paul II. It was important to all three of the Popes that this be a joint commemoration, for the first time.

Something that not only did not happen but was simply unthinkable in 1917. From the perspective of both Lutherans and Catholics equally.

How we got from October 1517 to October 2017…and most especially the events of the past 50 years…is a really remarkable and wonderful story. Some of us were fortunate enough to have lived it.

You have read From Conflict to Communion and Declaration on the Way? You would learn more there than in the posts that end up here. The former document is, in no small part, the reason that Gerhard Müller, who was then Bishop of Regensburg, and Kurt Koch, who was then Bishop of Basel, were brought to Rome and why they are Cardinals today.

Well, I will grant you that but you cannot shut us up when we quote official document like the CCC, which if you do you will probably do not have anybody posting here.

If the CCC is obsolete because it is to be interpreted differently in 2017, well, that should be made known to all Catholics worldwide, from Tauranga in New Zealand, Nagano in Japan and Nakuru in Kenya, where every Catholic family at least should have one copy of the Catechism. They do not have the luxury to visit the Vatican, even less to sit there.

The difficulty when a laity discusses with a clergy is that we are often browbeaten and bullied as being ignorant, and I think that is sad. Of course that is not always the case, as the laity in reality do compliment the clergy in parishes and even worldwide.

 

[Reuben_J]

This article is from Catholic Answers by Jim Blackburn.
In recent times, the Church has recognized that its teaching about the necessity of the Catholic Church for salvation has been widely misunderstood, so it has “re-formulated” this teaching in a positive way. Here is how the Catechism of the Catholic Church begins to address this topic: “How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Reformulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body” (CCC 846).

Notice that in these three verses Jesus associated salvation with baptism, confession, and the Eucharist, respectively. Catholics recognize that these sacraments are administered through the Church. In fact, in the case of the latter two, a validly ordained priest is necessary for their administration, so the sacrament of ordination must also be associated with salvation. A primary role of the Catholic Church in conjunction with salvation is becoming quite clear.

This brings us to the second part of the Catechism’s formulation of the doctrine being considered: “. . . through the Church which is his Body.”

With Him or Against Him

Since the sacraments are the ordinary means through which Christ offers the grace necessary for salvation, and the Catholic Church that Christ established is the ordinary minister of those sacraments, it is appropriate to state that salvation comes through the Church.*

catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/what-no-salvation-outside-the-church-means

 

[Michael_Francis]

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