How come so many Catholics don't follow Church Teachings?

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Might I just say that for a church that bases much of its foundation on the concept of free will, it never ceases to amaze me how it somehow isn’t supposed to apply when we get to this issue.
 
When people say “pro choice” they are using a euphemism for “pro legal abortion. “

The Church responds in the same way as it would to someone who said they were pro legalising theft.
 
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A lot of times, there are opponents of the Church who are basically undermining the Church from within. It’s a type of infiltration into an organization.

Also, many people do not know how to reconcile two opposing beliefs, so they falsely believe they can hold them both.
 
Statesmen (and women) must know and admit what is legal and constitutional in the US. No matter if they disagree with it or not. In our pluralistic society there will be some practices which folks find offensive and against their religion. That does not mean that the practices are not legal or constitutionally defensible.

I’m not speaking of any one thing in particular, either. Too often laypeople throw around the term ‘anti-Christian’ when what really is happening is freedom of religion for all.
 
JMMJ said:
Might I just say that for a church that bases much of its foundation on the concept of free will, it never ceases to amaze me how it somehow isn’t supposed to apply when we get to this issue.
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That is because believing in free will is an acknowledgement of an aspect of humanity not that anything goes.
 
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not that anything goes.
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Sure, but again, I don’t think that people who disagree or struggle with a Church teaching necessarily have an “anything-goes” mentality. This thread seems to be just slapping labels on people and portraying them as shallow and self-serving when very often the opposite is true.

Those who struggle with fundamental teachings face an uphill battle, internal wrestling, and even the occasional dark night of the soul. I speak from experience here. They deserve prayer and compassion, not the acrimonious and cynical tone that I’m picking up from this discussion, (not you - just a general observation).

CAFers who know me can vouch for my pro-life creds. But I don’t sneer at pro-choice Catholics. I talk to them and pray for them. And I don’t just wo/mansplain, (I’m female - can’t “mansplain,” lol!), the CCC to them, but I engage them in thoughtful dialogue.
 
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I accept that people will do what they feel they’ll have to do. I accept that I will never understand a person’s need to have an abortion… I accept that I can pray with them, that God willing they will change their mind before the deed is actually done.

But I also accept and strongly believe in mercy and forgiveness… so, God forbid, if they are going to do the worst possible thing a woman can do, they should have the rights to do it a safe medical way so that God willing afterwards, they will know they have the choice to repent and receive God’s mercy, grace and love.
 
You do not know they are not doing that, nor do you know how they are living their life… only God knows.

Telling someone who is gay or anything different is automatically a sinner is like saying, ‘Oh you’re sitting in a bar, having a drink… you must be an alcoholic’… its not right.
 
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Those who struggle with fundamental teachings face an uphill battle, internal wrestling, and even the occasional dark night of the soul. I speak from experience here. They deserve prayer and compassion, not the acrimonious and cynical tone that I’m picking up from this discussion
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I agree with you. I sometimes wonder if people who take that approach have never sinned or known struggle or crushing remorse before the foot of the Cross.
 
LGBTQ is not a dirty word, nor is it a clubhouse or speakeasy with secret handshakes. The “LGBTQ community” is simply individual LGBTQ people in the aggregate. As Catholics, we love both as our brothers and sisters in Christ.
 
I genuinely believe that discerning Catholics can distinguish between a community dedicated to proper rights, and the lobbyist side of it that has another agenda that’s usually money/power driven. I would even say that the majority of lgbt people don’t want to take parts in parades and political junkets, they just want to be recognised and treated respectfully and fairly in the midst of their struggle. The community has given them a voice.

I would use another analogy. Catholics can distinguish between traditionalists who are attracted to the Latin Mass and the 16th century Popes, and the lobbyists using that group to advance their wealth and power like Acton Institute. My daughter goes to weekly Latin Mass but I think I’m discerning in rejecting the agenda of Acton Institute and other lobbys using the cause for their own agenda.
 
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nor is it a clubhouse
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Actually LGBT community speaks of itself as very much a club or party with a purpose and agenda.

I have every sympathy with LGBT individuals (my late mother was one) but not with anything suggesting an LGBT movement, which the word community suggests.
 
Very new to the faith so bare with me; POOR FORMATION. I love this Church but I have to read, study, and research to know what the Church teaches. I have not heard but in one Catholic Church a Catholic Doctrinal homily. And it happens to be the Church where I came to our faith. Now I’m living in Texas. I will hear bits and pieces of our doctrines thrown into a homily. But I would learn and benefit much from a sermon on for example, purgatory. Just what it is and how to avoid a long time there. How to effectively pray for the souls there. Have never heard anything on it other than it exists (which I believe). The CC is the Church Jesus built and we DO have the full deposit of faith. Pray fervently for the salvation of men’s souls who are neglectful of their God ordained responsibility. And Study Study Study! Martin knows well what God thinks of sexual sin and perversion. To openly rebel and teach the opposite is a display of what spirit he truly possesses. We’ve dropped the ball as a people by not praying and fasting for our priests. Let’s start now, today! And pray for our Pope, Bishops, and opposing parties. God has 1 Church and I fear we’re becoming nearly as fractured as the protestant rebels.
 
As long as those who reject Church Teaching refrain from Eucharist. When Catholics who reject formal Teaching, decide they are entitled to Communion, they become a device for the devil.
 
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