How did Padre Pio Bilocate?

  • Thread starter Thread starter convertingtocatholic
  • Start date Start date
Do you have your sleep disrupted before the lucid dream kicks in ? One way it activates is if the sleeper wakes up in the middle of the night and goes back to sleep while constantly moving a finger or limb .
 
One time he was asked how he bilocated. He used one word, “extension.”
Does this say it is wrong to say he bilocated, but it is more like our arm reaching out somewhere. (This last is just my fallible opinion, though)
 
convertingtocatholic said:
The lucid dreams I have happen about all the time I dont do anything to make them happen. They just come alot.
Click to expand...
I completely understand. I have had several lucid dreams throughout the years and I never knew how to stop them. By God’s grace I haven’t had any that I can recall since my Orthodox baptism.
 
I’ve had the pleasure to know someone who has physically bilocated. He wished for his identity and the content of his bilocation to remain hidden but gave me permission to relay the physical experience so that others could could come to understand the rather rare process more fully.

He described bilocation as coming on suddenly and without warning. It felt like his soul was being pulled in two different directions. The bilocation disoriented him. He had full control of his senses in both locations, but his focus was on the place where the Lord had taken him. He described it like being focused on a task and being vaguely aware of what was happening around you. He was vaguely aware of what was happening at the location from where he was taken.

To this day, he doesn’t understand why God had brought him to that location. To him, the events which happened while he was bilocated were usually brief and seemingly pedestrian and unimportant. At least once, he found that he was actually invisible to those around him. It was this time that actually convinced him that his experiences were not actually hallucinations as he witnessed an event which was publicized a few days later. He expressed that he was rather glad that he had been invisible because he had been in his underwear and an undershirt at the time.

He explained that one way he knew he was actually bilocating and not just dreaming (whether lucid or otherwise) was that nothing in the experience was idealized. He was always wearing the exact same clothes that he was wearing before the bilocation and would notice details which wouldn’t typically be in dreams: a cracked window pane, someone important having the sniffles, an area rug was worn in an uneven pattern, etc.

In the end, he described his bilocations as “nice, but ultimately unimportant” to his personal journey with God. He believed that the bilocations did have a purpose but they did not truly have an impact on his spiritual life other than an increased sensitivity to God’s desire for his service.
 
Last edited:
St. Faustina recalls bi-locating in her spiritual journal, when God called her to the bedside of a dying man. She had no idea where she was or who he was.
 
What’s perplexing to me is, Catholics accept Padre Pio’s bilocation stories, but for others who experienced it, it’s considered evil.
 
Or when non-Christians practice it, it’s considered either “demonic”, or utter New Age ‘BS’ (pardon my French).
 
It is, because those who try to do it on their own isn’t the same as bilocation saints had or someone who has it but it’s God’s gift.
I doubt anyone who is loudly self proclaiming to have any of mystic gifts.

Padre Pio never wanted any of those things, God gave him those graces for higher good, for salvation of souls. Padre Pio was just accepting God’s will in his life. Nothing more or less.
 
Last edited:
Medawlinno said:
Or when non-Christians practice it, it’s considered either “demonic”, or utter New Age ‘BS’ (pardon my French).
Click to expand...
I actually encountered someone with a similar philosophy to you. They played with occultic items, rejected Jesus, and even posited that morality wasn’t what “those Christians” made it out to be, and that the Devil could be a person’s friend.

Guess what happened to them? Surprise! They got Demon-Possessed! 🎉 🎊

I hate to be facetious, but there is no “circumnavigating” Jesus Christ. If you’re dabbling with Spirituality and “alternative” doorways to the supernatural, don’t be surprised when you lose control of all your faculties and undergo immense torment.
 
Last edited:
I see anyone who is not Catholic experiencing these things, like NDE’s, as being new age, and they’re usually attacked for preaching falsely.

I know there are frauds, I’ve seen frauds in Catholicism as well.

Praying for Discernment from the Holy Spirit is the key in all cases
 
No one is trying to prove to you, or anyone else, that he did it. He is not honored as a saint because he bilocated. It’s irrelevant to everybody except those who are fascinated with his gift.
 
oneanswer said:
people here have not experienced this simple gift of the spuirit nor can they explain it
Click to expand...
I agree with you here, if one has not experienced various forms of the preternatural then one can not fathom that experience in it’s entirety. It doesn’t make one better than the other, it is what it is. As my spiritual director states around preternatural experiences; some are sleeping and not aware of that spiritual realm whilst others experience that spiritual realm on a frequent basis where discernment is the key.
 
Perplexing indeed. I suspect that people forget that God loves all of us. He answers prayers and performs miracles, even in lives of heathens.
 
Lucid dreaming is a good way to develop a person’s creative abilities, among other things, which can be used for tremendous good.

Every gift we have ultimately serves the same purpose: to love God and to serve our neighbor. Bilocation (not a natural gift, but a supernatural gift) can be used to love God and to do good to a person in need. If we don’t use a gift for those two purposes then we are abusing it along with ourselves.

Peace.
 
Last edited:
It can be used in a variety of ways. Improving public speaking, academics, creative thinking, etc. Sometimes people fall into the habit of lucid dreaming on a regular basis but it’s also a skill you can learn like any other skill.
 
The point I’m trying to make is that if someone posted something on “someone they knew” doing this, it would be shot down within five minutes of posting as New Age nonsense and said acquaintance should be told that s/he is ‘dabbling with the occult’.

But, but when a respected priest is doing the exact same thing, it’s suddenly okay (for him anyway) and is even deemed divine/spiritual, etc.

Sort of a double standard to say the least. There’s no difference in what he did and what anyone else who has the ability to bilocate/astral-project is doing.
 
Medawlinno said:
The point I’m trying to make is that if someone posted something on “someone they knew” doing this, it would be shot down within five minutes of posting as New Age nonsense and said acquaintance should be told that s/he is ‘dabbling with the occult’.

But, but when a respected priest is doing the exact same thing, it’s suddenly okay (for him anyway) and is even deemed divine/spiritual, etc.

Sort of a double standard to say the least. There’s no difference in what he did and what anyone else who has the ability to bilocate/astral-project is doing.
Click to expand...
Do you know anything about the history of Padre Pio and how he was repeatedly suppressed by Popes and repeatedly investigated and even persecuted (his fellow monks being told not to help him or to stay away from him, for example) because many within the Church were concerned about stuff he was allegedly doing?

He did not have an easy path to canonization. He suffered greatly. Everybody didn’t just go “Oh wow, he bilocates! He reads hearts! He’s got the stigmata! He cuddles the Baby Jesus! Awesome! Let’s make him a saint!” The fact that he was finally accepted and canonized is in itself a bit of a miracle and attests to his underlying holiness.

In modern times the Church doesn’t like mystics. It resists canonizing them. I’m sure part of the reason why is the distrust for alleged phenomena and the concerns that some of it might be fake or occult. And very often, it IS fake or occult. Padre Pio is the exception. He was also not particularly “respected” during much of his life.
 
Last edited:
The only thing I read about Padre Pio being supressed is that about saying daily the Mass.

He took so long as he went into deep contemplation, that people had to leave as they usually attended Mass before going to work.

He was also known to have a hot temper, which gave his canonization some time for the Church to discern.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top