How do Catholics explain 1 Timothy 2:5 and Hebrews 7:26?

[Sailka]

Brother (K of C) Rob, never even Dreamed that you were ‘verbose’. Only “Disertational” and too hard working! :tiphat: And I never in my born or fetal days have ever “Insinuated”. Only joked and flat out Said. :hey_bud:

Vivat Jesus. Tony

 

[Sailka]

Rev. 12 says Mary? Not in my Bible.

No, Revelation 12 does not name Mary. But who else in the history of the universe could it describe?
:coffeeread: Vivat Jesus. :knight1: Tony

 

[RobGentner]

Brother (K of C) Rob, never even Dreamed that you were ‘verbose’. Only “Disertational” and too hard working!: And I never in my born or fetal days have ever “Insinuated”. Only joked and flat out Said.

Vivat Jesus. Tony

**
Well, You have better be careful! :tsktsk: PeteJ and I are “watching” YOU! :jrbirdman: I also think SIA is bi-polar but that is not reason to be mean. He deserves to be treated as if he was normal, and I am here to make sure he is! So don’t insult him! I will spend every waken moment to defend my friend and insure that you don’t:coffeeread:

Also when I find out what “disertatted extensivelly and expansivelly” means I may have to file an abusive remark:extrahappy: complaint against you!

OK PeteJ , I told Tony off! :thumbsup:I am sure he will be better now that he know we are watching him!

Wonder where SIA is today. **

 

[Peter_J]

RobGentner,

Has it occurred to you that you might not be as funny as you think you are?

 

[Truthfaithlove]

Catholics typically answer.

Yes, yes yes…BUT!

There’s always that BUT…at the end where they afix something else at the end to either disregard the former or nullify its importance. There’s some tremendous difficulty in holding onto the truth.

.

 

[RobGentner]

You have a real nice way of showing it.

**Pete… Are you implying that I have been anything less than kind?:bigyikes:

Read back about 25 posts or more. Every other time ** that SIA comes on line, he is on “our” side about Mary being God’s mother, etc.:doh2:
I have developed two working theroies. One involves the need for medications, the other involves someone stealing his password and trying hard to make him appear stupid and dump. :bounce:
But, as a Christian and Catholic, I withhold making any judgment because he seems like a nice guy and I don’t want to judge him or cause his feelings to be hurt if it actually is a medical condition and he has no control over it! :tiphat:

I have missed You, Mailman and Solo_scriptura on the other Threads.Where have you been lately?
I have been on Thread ** Is killing in war justified?** driving one guy, “JosephDavid” a little crazy. He seems to be more worried about the evil our country had done in the past then he is in ending abortion and things that we should be worried about today like homeland security. Now that guy appears to be a couple of cans short of a six pack. :dancing: SIA on the other hand seems to be a really a nice guy. That is why I am kind to him. He is my Buddy!!!:hug1:

Now the OP is: How do Catholics explain 1 Timothy 2:5 and Hebrews 7:26?

2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

I think it says what it means. Jesus is the one mediator between God and men. Mary and the Saints prayers go through Jesus to His Father for us. (Glad that question is finished!)

Hebrews 7:26 כי נאוה לנו כהן כזה שהוא חסיד ותמים וטהור ונבדל מן החטאים ונשא מהשמים׃ – Hebrew Bible (For it was fitting for us to have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens)

OK, I think it was fitting.

God Bless!

 

[RobGentner]

RobGentner,
Has it occurred to you that you might not be as funny as you think you are?

**
No, but…**

I am wondering what does that have to do with the OP? :banghead: I know you rather just spend time judging me, but…
**
Your opinion really means a lot to me :coffeeread:Thanks for sharing!

Oh, may we pause for a word from The Pope?

“Humor is in fact an essential element in the mirth of creation. We can see how, in many matters in our lives, God wants to prod us into taking things a bit more lightly.” —Pope Benedict XVI

God Bless,

World’s Oldest Joke No. 9: 4th or 5th Century A.D. This joke is dated to the Philogelos. “Wishing to teach his donkey not to eat, a pedant did not offer him any food. When the donkey died of hunger, he said ‘I’ve had a great loss. Just when he had learned not to eat, he died.’”

Sounds just a little like our Government doesn’t it?

**

 

[SIA]

Catholics typically answer.

Yes, yes yes…BUT!

There’s always that BUT…at the end where they afix something else at the end to either disregard the former or nullify its importance. There’s some tremendous difficulty in holding onto the truth.

.

It’s like a dog marking it’s territory. It’s never good enough for them to either agree or disagree, it always has to do with exlusivity.

 

[RobGentner]

Catholics typically answer.

Yes, yes yes…BUT!

There’s always that BUT…at the end where they afix something else at the end to either disregard the former or nullify its importance. There’s some tremendous difficulty in holding onto the truth.

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Well Truthfaithlove, that may be true …BUT we don’t always do that!
I know it may seem like we do it all the time, But, we really don’t. There are just times when we say something and know that it won’t be understood by one hundred percent of the people or will be misunderstood by some others. But ,we say it anyway.

Remember we are all human, even my brother Tony. What he said was: “No, Revelation 12 does not name Mary. But who else in the history of the universe could it describe?”

I am sure what he meant to say was: “No, Revelation 12 does not name Mary. Who else in the history of the universe could it describe?” But…he didn’t say that!

But, I am sure he wanted to!

**

 

[SIA]

:compcoff:

:tiphat: Welcome back SIA. We worried about not seeing you a few days. Revelation depicting Mary is not an ‘authority decision’. Its Common sense, and very best guess, as brother Rob disertatted extensivelly and expansivelly. :ehh: :yawn:
Yes, Scripture is the Word of God, but was not written in modern English. Luckily our Church Fathers wrote the words, and we know the Contexts and meanings from them. Like was no Aramaic word for cousin, uncle, follower, so the modern ethnic word brother, sister were used then.

Vivat Jesus.
:bible1: Tony

You argument has more holes in it than underwear during the great depression. There absolutely were words used to distinguish between brothers, cousins and other kin. The writers of the the NT absolutely knew the difference between brothers and cousins.

 

[RobGentner]

It’s like a dog marking it’s territory. It’s never good enough for them to either agree or disagree, it always has to do with exlusivity.

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Hi SIA, Truthfaithlove was talking about “US” She said “Catholics” typically answer. Yes, yes yes…BUT!

Your answer: It’s like a dog marking it’s territory. It’s never good enough for them to either agree or disagree, it always has to do with exlusivity." was an excellent post.

Yes, I actually agree with you, But, I wouldn’t had said it quite that way! **

 

[RobGentner]

You argument has more holes in it than underwear during the great depression. There absolutely were words used to distinguish between brothers, cousins and other kin. The writers of the the NT absolutely knew the difference between brothers and cousins.

**SIA Actually Tony is correct! In the ancient Greek the word used was sister and brother. Those words were used to “identify” all male or female relatives. Yes there were other words that could have been used. However the words that were written in the Bible could have meant brother, cousin, sister. But Catholics “know” Jesus had no bio- logical brothers and sisters. We “know” the Blessed Virgin was and always will be a virgin. If we didn’t “KNOW” those things we would not be Catholics! It is that easy! Would you like me to retype it slower so you can understand it? We believe by faith, what the RCC says we must believe to be Catholics. BUT protestants can believe what they want who cares?

The way Greeks used the words It is done that way in many cultures. I speak several languages. For instance, In Korean the word “Uncle” is used as we would use “Mister”, :“Aunt” is used to identify women when calling to get their attention! All males are addressed as Old brother or young brother, women are young sister or old sister. It is documented that this is how the word brothers and sisters were meant in the bible.

*anepsios * ajneyiov, in Col. 4:10 denotes a cousin rather than a nephew ( “sister’s son”). “Cousin” is its meaning in various other periods of Greek writers. In this sense it may have been used in the Sept., in Numb. 36:11. In later writings it denotes a nephew; hence the other renderings. There is no reason to suppose that the Apostle could not have used it in other ways. Therefore, Mark was either the cousin or brother of Barnabas. sungenis (suggeniv", 4773) in Luke 1:36 and sungeneµs in Luke 1:58 (plural), “cousin” and “cousins,” respectively signify “kinswoman” and “kinsfolk,” so the word literly signifies ‘born with,’ i.e., of the same stock, or descent; hence kinsman, kindred , or related. In Col. 4:10, anepsios a nephew, or a cousin in English is translated “sister’s son.”

Now I have asked you several times. Did you ever complete your swin across the Thames? You have so many NON-CATHOLIC opinions you need to go through RCIA again and finish the swim.

Tick tock, tick tock…waiting! **

 

[Sailka]

**
Well, You have better be careful! PeteJ and I are “watching” YOU! I also think SIA is bi-polar but that is not reason to be mean. He deserves to be treated as if he was normal, and I am here to make sure he is! So don’t insult him! I will spend every waken moment to defend my friend and insure that you don’t.

Also when I find out what “disertatted extensivelly and expansivelly” means I may have to file an abusive remark complaint against you!

OK PeteJ , I told Tony off! :thumbsup:I am sure he will be better now that he know we are watching him!

Wonder where SIA is today. **

Hi Rob! Sorry missed your posting. Was busy thanking jk4 for not hiding, posting new one, and answering his intuitivelly. :hammering: And have just hammerred him with a brand new type challenge:hey_bud: What does his church and his reading of the Bible tell Him about the 2 questions he asked us. Not holding my breath for answers. shaw:

And brother Rob, not good idea to publically challenge the mentality of a regular here. Diagnosing anyone’s mental status is universally challenging to all/Every mental health worker. Of course am sure you Are one!?

Don’t forget, bro Rob, that PeterJ is watching Both/each of us (if he quickly hasn’t gotten bored:jrbirdman

And bro Rob, haven’t seen you post any VJ greeting in weeks. Supreme Council may get on you to Live KC publically, since we have become public figures. Vivat Jesus. :knight1: Tony

 

[Sailka]

:bigyikes: uch:

You argument has more holes in it than underwear during the great depression. There absolutely were words used to distinguish between brothers, cousins and other kin. The writers of the the NT absolutely knew the difference between brothers and cousins.

Sia, Our Church Fathers wrote the New Testament. **The Aramaic Language of 1968 years ago, spoken by Our Lord and the Apostles, had no written words for cousins, followers, etc. That is why at That Time, when the New Testament was written, the words ‘brother, sister’ were used generically for those people in writings. We are speaking of the written ords of about 1968 years ago. Aramaic written. OK? :yyeess: **
Vivat Jesus. Tony

 

[RobGentner]

:bigyikes: uch:

Sia, Our Church Fathers wrote the New Testament. **The Aramaic Language of 1968 years ago, spoken by Our Lord and the Apostles, had no written words for cousins, followers, etc. That is why at That Time, when the New Testament was written, the words ‘brother, sister’ were used generically for those people in writings. We are speaking of the written ords of about 1968 years ago. Aramaic written. OK? **
Vivat Jesus. Tony

**
Tony, I found out the “secret” SIA has been hiding! SIA is not a member of the RCC as he pretends to be! :bigyikes: He swam the Thames but in the “wrong direction” he is now an Anglican Catholic. His Church is about 30 years old? He use to be a “real” Catholic (He said for 30 years on another Thread) Now does it make sense to you why his thinking is so warped? :sad_yes: He appears to have a polluted mind. :yup: I think this sheep is too far lost for us to save. It might be well beyond our ability to help. I, of course will still try, out of Christian Love. But He is so convinced of his personal beliefs now rather than the beliefs taught by the True church which is 1970 years older** then his “new” church,. We might not get through kpeople: His church did “borrow” some of our teachings, traditions, etc, and twisted them to their own use just like all other protestant religions do. The only thing is they “claim” they are Catholic they pretend they are catholic when they are only protestants in catholic vestments! Why do the now call themselfs Catholic? I think it is so they can use the materials they took from our religion to fill the void in their own. Our two religions have some areas of agreement or convergence on questions that are of great importance for the faith of the RCC. However it is clear that there are many areas of essential Catholic doctrine on which complete agreement or even at times convergence has eluded the Anglican Catholics. They remain outsiders to the FAITH! SIA wears his Catholic faith cover like a wolf would wear sheep clothing in a flock of sheep. I wonder of his intentions? It isn’t to learn! :tsktsk:

SIA, we like you. You don’t have to be deceitful. :dts: Just be who you really are, say what you mean and don’t pretent to be something you are not. By that I mean a “real” Catholic as understood by the RCC.

GOD BLESS!

 

[Peter_J]

RobGentner,

I really don’t like talking to you, but I can’t let your last post go by without comment.

**SIA is not a member of the RCC as he pretends to be!
**

When did SIA ever pretend to be a member of the RCC?

Give me a break.

 

[Sailka]

**
Tony, I found out the “secret” SIA has been hiding! SIA is not a member of the RCC as he pretends to be! :bigyikes: He swam the Thames but in the “wrong direction” he is now an Anglican Catholic. His Church is about 30 years old? He use to be a “real” Catholic (He said for 30 years on another Thread) Now does it make sense to you why his thinking is so warped? :sad_yes: He appears to have a polluted mind. I think this sheep is too far lost for us to save. It might be well beyond our ability to help. I, of course will still try, out of Christian Love. But He is so convinced of his personal beliefs now rather than the beliefs taught by the True church which is 1970 years older** then his “new” church,. We might not get through His church did “borrow” some of our teachings, traditions, etc, and twisted them to their own use just like all other protestant religions do. The only thing is they “claim” they are Catholic they pretend they are catholic when they are only protestants in catholic vestments! Why do the now call themselves Catholic? I think it is so they can use the materials they took from our religion to fill the void in their own. Our two religions have some areas of agreement or convergence on questions that are of great importance for the faith of the RCC. However it is clear that there are many areas of essential Catholic doctrine on which complete agreement or even at times convergence has eluded the Anglican Catholics. They remain outsiders to the FAITH! SIA wears his Catholic faith cover like a wolf would wear sheep clothing in a flock of sheep. I wonder of his intentions? It isn’t to learn! :tsktsk:

SIA, we like you. You don’t have to be deceitful. :dts: Just be who you really are, say what you mean and don’t pretend to be something you are not. By that I mean a “real” Catholic as understood by the RCC.

GOD BLESS!

SIA is unlike any Anglican I’ve encountered. Anglicans are our closest religious relatives, even bowing to the red Communion Candle they maintain like we do. How do you figure he is close cousin Anglican? He seems lot more Fundy, etc.

And we should always enjoy helping all troubled visitors. Is our Responsibility to be apostles, spreading the ideal News of true Catholicism. I personally always enjoy these interactions, especially the Humor :dancing: :extrahappy: we share with them, that they rarely show. Several, including jk4 and even SIA have shown some progress in Humor, and even respecting some of our Basic beliefs.

As the Chinese invented a few thousand years ago also: A long journey begins with one step…. The next step covers twice as much, and things get exponential thereafter. Is how great people, like our friends are, find the Full Truth. They sure put LOT of time in here… And lot OLD lines, repeatedly.
Vivat Jesus. :knight1: Tony

 

[Sailka]

RobGentner,

I really don’t like talking to you, but I can’t let your last post go by without comment.

When did SIA ever pretend to be a member of the RCC?

Give me a break.

Welcome, brother PeterJ. Your getting to be regular follower of brother Rob and I. Only thing you need to be our Friemds is Sense of Humor! We noticed you are showing Signs of developing that.
Vivat Jesus. Tony
:takethat: Loaning PeterJ a ‘break’.

 

[RobGentner]

RobGentner,
**
I really don’t like talking to you, but I can’t let your last post go by without comment.**
**Thank Goodness, Finally someone that isn’t judgmental! :extrahappy: **

When did SIA ever pretend to be a member of the RCC?

**What does swimming the Thames mean to you Pete? And when you ask someone point blank"What is your religion", because something they said does not agree with our church teachings and they ignore the question and provide someother remark. If that isn’t “pretending” to be something you aren’t, what would you call it all knowledgeable one? Of course, I understand his shame for leaving the real church and accepting an imitation. I felt that way about Ice cream.:extrahappy:

Now you go and have yourself a blessed day! Kisses! …**
**
Give me a break.**

**Of course, Do you want your coffee black or with cream and sugar! :coffeeread: **

 

[RobGentner]

Welcome, brother PeterJ. Your getting to be regular follower of brother Rob and I. **
Tony, Pete actually likes me! Did you read what he wrote! ** “I really don’t like talking to you, but I can’t let your last post go by without comment”

**I finally have a friend! SOB! :crying: Thanks Pete! My heart overflows knowing that you really like me! Your opinion means so much to me A person who can understand that life is serious and should never have fun, finally accepting me and the Humor that God gave me! :yawn: That means a lot to me! **

Only thing you need to be our Friends is Sense of Humor! We noticed you are showing Signs of developing that.
**He is? **