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misslollipops
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It does work that way and deep down you probably know it.
Anyway infant baptism is the topic for another thread
This is about being born again. Are you born again?
If so how do you know?
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Anyway infant baptism is the topic for another thread
This is about being born again. Are you born again?
If so how do you know?
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fellowChristian
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“Are you saved?” asks the Fundamentalist.
The Catholic should reply: "As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8),
but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12),
and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15).
Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13)."
Are Catholics Born Again?
catholic.com/library/Are_Catholics_Born_Again.asp
Assurance of Salvation?
catholic.com/library/Assurance_of_Salvation.asp
Grace: What It Is and What It Does
catholic.com/library/Grace_What_It_Is.asp
How to Become a Catholic
catholic.com/library/How_to_Become_a_Catholic.asp
The Catholic should reply: "As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8),
but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12),
and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15).
Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13)."
Are Catholics Born Again?
catholic.com/library/Are_Catholics_Born_Again.asp
Assurance of Salvation?
catholic.com/library/Assurance_of_Salvation.asp
Grace: What It Is and What It Does
catholic.com/library/Grace_What_It_Is.asp
How to Become a Catholic
catholic.com/library/How_to_Become_a_Catholic.asp
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fellowChristian
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John 3
3 In reply Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is** born again**.”
4"How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. “Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb to be born!”
5Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ 8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
9"How can this be?" Nicodemus asked.
10"You are Israel’s teacher," said Jesus, "and do you not understand these things? 11I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. 12I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? 13No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. 14Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."
John the Baptist’s Testimony About Jesus
22After this, Jesus and his disciples went out into the Judean countryside, where he spent some time with them, and **baptized. **
** read the bold print**
3 In reply Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is** born again**.”
4"How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. “Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb to be born!”
5Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ 8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
9"How can this be?" Nicodemus asked.
10"You are Israel’s teacher," said Jesus, "and do you not understand these things? 11I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. 12I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? 13No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. 14Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."
John the Baptist’s Testimony About Jesus
22After this, Jesus and his disciples went out into the Judean countryside, where he spent some time with them, and **baptized. **
** read the bold print**
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misslollipops
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fellowChristian; said:
** read the bold print**
Great quote. Do you have a testimony about your born again experience? I’d love to hear it.
Can you describe the old carnal you as opposed to the new spiritual you?
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Linkowski
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I certainly remember when it happened - AND - I see the evidence (John 3:8 KJV 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.)
1Jo 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jo 2:20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know.
1Jo 2:29 If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone also who practices righteousness is born of Him.
1Jo 3:9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jo 3:7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;
1Jo 5:1 Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and whoever loves the Father loves the child born of Him.
1Jo 5:4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world–our faith
1Jo 5:18 We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.
19 We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.
2Jo 1:2 for the sake of the truth which abides in us and will be with us forever:
1Jo 5:13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Gamera
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Yes, I was born again at baptism.
I’ve seen the baptismal certificate and the photographs, and I believe my parents who have recounted it to me.
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st_lucy
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I always find this to be the weirdest question ever. Yes, as a Christian we are “born again” through baptism, which was one of the commands our Lord asked of us.
Now if you are asking for experiences that I know of the great love my Lord has for me. I didn’t experience once and that was it. I would be very weary of only once and that is it. As humans our wonderful and loving God knows that we are weak and so therefor need His intersession daily and not just once. So I am so grateful that I have these wonderful experiences every single day of my life.
I am in aah every time I respond to my Lords call with somewhat obedience. (I have a hard time with obeying) When he calls me once a week to go and visit Him in adoration, yes I always think - well, Lord you know how busy I am can’t I just skip this once, but of course once you hear His call it is very hard to not listen so I go. And than I am amazed by how much He loves me to ask me to go and visit Him. And than He will call me once a month to go to Him in confession, so that I may have the burden of all those sins lifted off my back. Of course when I get this call, I usually think - Oh Lord, must I really go, it seems so embarrassing for me to go and confess all of my sins. But of course I cannot ignore my Lord and I go, and than I am amazed how light, I feel after He has taken my burden off my back. And than He calls me to Him when he asks me to celebrate His mass every Sunday with His whole Church. Of course when I get this call I usually think - Oh Lord can’t I just sit at home today and read the bible instead? But of course I don’t and I go to mass, and than I am amazed how close I am with my Lord when I receive Him body and soul.
You see, no one knows me any better than my Lord, He knew that I couldn’t just have one wham bam experience and than be a perfect person who will never sin. He knows how week I am how prone to sin I am, so He set up His Church here on earth so that when (and not if) I should stumble and fall in my blindness, I would be able to find Him, in adoration, and ask for His help in confession and be able to have the personal relationship He wants with me in mass through communion in the Holy Eucharist.
So in answer to your question. Yes, I have been born again,through baptism (one month old) and yes I have had and still having this wonderful experience with my Lord on a daily biases.
So to quote the bible: thanks to fellow christian for the easy use of the following quotes
(1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12),
I am continually being saved.
(Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15).
And I hope that I will continually be saved. If my Lord doesn’t give up on this one lost sheep of His.
Now if you are asking for experiences that I know of the great love my Lord has for me. I didn’t experience once and that was it. I would be very weary of only once and that is it. As humans our wonderful and loving God knows that we are weak and so therefor need His intersession daily and not just once. So I am so grateful that I have these wonderful experiences every single day of my life.
I am in aah every time I respond to my Lords call with somewhat obedience. (I have a hard time with obeying) When he calls me once a week to go and visit Him in adoration, yes I always think - well, Lord you know how busy I am can’t I just skip this once, but of course once you hear His call it is very hard to not listen so I go. And than I am amazed by how much He loves me to ask me to go and visit Him. And than He will call me once a month to go to Him in confession, so that I may have the burden of all those sins lifted off my back. Of course when I get this call, I usually think - Oh Lord, must I really go, it seems so embarrassing for me to go and confess all of my sins. But of course I cannot ignore my Lord and I go, and than I am amazed how light, I feel after He has taken my burden off my back. And than He calls me to Him when he asks me to celebrate His mass every Sunday with His whole Church. Of course when I get this call I usually think - Oh Lord can’t I just sit at home today and read the bible instead? But of course I don’t and I go to mass, and than I am amazed how close I am with my Lord when I receive Him body and soul.
You see, no one knows me any better than my Lord, He knew that I couldn’t just have one wham bam experience and than be a perfect person who will never sin. He knows how week I am how prone to sin I am, so He set up His Church here on earth so that when (and not if) I should stumble and fall in my blindness, I would be able to find Him, in adoration, and ask for His help in confession and be able to have the personal relationship He wants with me in mass through communion in the Holy Eucharist.
So in answer to your question. Yes, I have been born again,through baptism (one month old) and yes I have had and still having this wonderful experience with my Lord on a daily biases.
So to quote the bible: thanks to fellow christian for the easy use of the following quotes
(1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12),
I am continually being saved.
(Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15).
And I hope that I will continually be saved. If my Lord doesn’t give up on this one lost sheep of His.
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Teflon93
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If you have a valid baptism, you are born again.
There is typically a certificate attesting to the fact.
There is typically a certificate attesting to the fact.
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PinoyCatholic
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How could one have been an apostle and not have been born again? Explain this in detail please, especially comparing and contrasting the qualifications of being “born again” with Judas being an apostle and follower of Christ.
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Tonks40
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Like previous posters said, you cannot separate “born again” (if we’re talking about a regenerative birth) and infant baptism.
The Church is always calling us to be born again (renewed) in the spirit of Christ, recognizing that though we believe, we can fall away from God. We can reconcile with our Lord at any time, and renew our bond with Him, especially through the Sacrament of the Eucharist.
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Teflon93
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Judas clearly was born again; wasn’t he listed among the Twelve throughout the Gospels?
The tragedy of Judas was that he threw away his salvation. Twice.
One of the most compelling pieces of evidence for the truth of the Gospels is that Judas’ name wasn’t expunged from the rolls of the Apostles when it would have been most convenient to do so.
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Teflon93
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It’s an odd question to ask of Catholics, certainly.
One gets the idea that the people who ask it are like 3-yr-olds with a hammer—everything looks like a nail to them, even those of us who believe in baptismal regeneration.
Ask that question of someone who doesn’t believe baptism washes away sin.
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PinoyCatholic
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That’s what I’m saying! If Judas was baptized, born again and he believed in Jesus, he would have been assured of his salvation, as per the rules laid out by our non-Catholic brethren, wouldn’t he? My question for them would then be “Was Judas saved?”.
Apparently misslollipops says “Judas was not born again anyway”.
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slo2lurn
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is ther somthing in scripture that says when we are born again we have to remember it? Is there somthing that say we must have some type of experience and shout halleluya?
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VociMike
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That I can do. While I am not without sin or without inclination to sin, the difference is that now I feel God everywhere. The world now is filled with signs of his presence, whereas before it was filled with signs of his absence. It was not God who changed, of course, but I. To me there is nothing more remarkable in the transition from unbeliever to believer than how you suddenly become aware that God has always and everywhere been present, and how you could not see it then anywhere, and how you can see it now everywhere.
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VociMike
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Whether he was or was not, the key point is that both he and all of his companions (leaving out Christ, of course) believed that he was. That is why when Christ said one would betray him, they just hoped it wasn’t them. They never suggested it would be Judas.
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PinoyCatholic
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And here I thought Judas had a “personal relationship with Jesus”, having traveled around with Him and having been an apostle and all. That kind of throws the “personal relationship” concept as a means of salvation out the window then.
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HailMary
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Repentence requires grace and grace comes from Baptism.
Baptism is the first step to Christianity. Oh, and its not a symbol.
The parent has authority of the child and the faith of the parent is the faith of the child.
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HailMary
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Thats a very cowardly answer.
Can you give me your infallible source that says there was no children in that house?
Otherwise if there was any children, you have just contradicted scripture.
Congratulations!
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misslollipops
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If you would like to read about someone having a born again experience read Pauls conversion on the road to Damascus Acts9
This is a classic example of being born again. We see the man in his sin(saul). We see that he meets Jesus. We see his conversion. Then we see all kinds of testimony of the new man.
There was a radical change from the man of sin to the new spritual man.
This is what it means to be born again.
Every Christian who is truly born again should have a recollection of the old person and the new person.
The change is so drastic that most people can remember the exact time place and all the cicumstances.
To suggest this happens as an infant is hard to believe.
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