How do Muslims rationalize the actions of Muhammad?

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In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

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Muhammad is evil, false, lied, paedophile, you get the point!
provoking Muslims all the time using dirty language & Christians claim they spread the love Jesus (p) taught them …lol.
 
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

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provoking Muslims all the time using dirty language & Christians claim they spread the love Jesus (p) taught them …lol.
:confused: Where was there any dirty language in her post? Did I miss something?
 
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provoking Muslims all the time using dirty language & Christians claim they spread the love Jesus (p) taught them …lol.
I do spread the love that Jesus taught me, its up to me to show you what your prophet really is, false!
The only TRUE road is Jesus.
 
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:confused: Where was there any dirty language in her post? Did I miss something?
Muslims love & respect Jesus & Mary (pbut) ; some Christians always take advantage of it . Just remember , we all will be accountable on the Final Day for all our deeds including what we write here .

If really because of Jesus (p) , you are forgiven already & there is no risk that u will get any punishment , that’s fine . But what if it’s not true & we all have to be accountable to God ?

Writing nasty posts on a daily basis about a religious figure who is respected by billion in this earth & who taught his followers to respect Jesus & Mary (pbut ) at a time when there were dirty allegations about Mary (p) . Even some Christians who were totally against Islam admitted that it’s surprising how Muhammed (p) refused all the dirty allegations against Mary (p).
 
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

Muslims love & respect Jesus & Mary (pbut) ; some Christians always take advantage of it . Just remember , we all will be accountable on the Final Day for all our deeds including what we write here .

If really because of Jesus (p) , you are forgiven already & there is no risk that u will get any punishment , that’s fine . But what if it’s not true & we all have to be accountable to God ?

Writing nasty posts on a daily basis about a religious figure who is respected by billion in this earth & who taught his followers to respect Jesus & Mary (pbut ) at a time when there were dirty allegations about Mary (p) . Even some Christians who were totally against Islam admitted that it’s surprising how Muhammed (p) refused all the dirty allegations against Mary (p).
Dirty allegations against Mary? I can tell you, no Catholic would ever think ill of Mary.
 
Muslims love & respect Jesus & Mary (pbut) ; some Christians always take advantage of it .
I don’t want to sound harsh but this is a lie. Muslims have made up lies about Jesus and Theotokos and they say they respect them. The people in your koran that are named Jesus & Mary are NOT the same as the people in the Bible.
 
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Salaam/peace
Dirty allegations against Mary? I can tell you, no Catholic would ever think ill of Mary.
what about God’s Chosen people ? Do they love & respect Mary (p) ?
 
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what about God’s Chosen people ? Do they love & respect Mary (p) ?
Of course God’s chosen people (Catholics) love and respect Mary, you know that, so why ask?
 
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… The people in your koran that are named Jesus & Mary are NOT the same as the people in the Bible.
Ok , if u love to think so 🙂

To you be your Way, and to me mine ( Quran ; 109:6)
 
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Of course God’s chosen people (Catholics) love and respect Mary, you know that, so why ask?
So , God sent Jesus (p) to His Chosen people Catholics & no Jew was there to deny the miracle birth of Jesus (p) ?

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So , God sent Jesus (p) to His Chosen people Catholics & no Jew was there to deny the miracle birth of Jesus (p) ?
All Catholics are Semites, we are all the People of God, just as the Jews, our older brethern, are. They are our older brethern, we Catholics are their younger brethern: we both are the one People of God.

God sent His Son to the Jews. The account of the birth of Jesus in the Qu’ran is lifted from the Gospel of Thomas, which, by the way, is a pseudo-gospel: it was not written by a man named Thomas but was given the name Thomas so that it appeared to be written by one of the apostles (St. Thomas). While the real author of the pseudo-gospel (false gospel) is unknwon, it is well known that St. Thomas didn’t write the gospel, because the work includes unorthodox and heretical teachings, such as that Jesus was a bully as a child and that He killed one of his playmates when He became angry. The fact that it includes an episode of Jesus killing someone shows that it was not written by any of the Apostles of Jesus, because all of His Apostles were Jews, and every Jew knows God dose not kill in anger - in fact, He is slow to anger but quick to mercy, as He Himself tells us in His Word (the Bible). The story of the mircaculous birth of Jesus in the Qu’ran is lifted from the Gospel of Thomas, as I said, and there is nothing you can say to change this fact, and, I suppose, until you accept this fact, you’ll always believe the false story. But I guess because you believe the Qu’ran is incorruptible, you are forced, so to speak, to believe in the birth story of Jesus in the Qu’ran, since if that story is false, than the Qu’ran would not be incorruptible, and if the Qu’ran is not incorruptible, than it would not be the word of God (as you believe it is), and if it is not the word of God, than Islam would be a false religion, just one of the many in the world.
 
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

So , God sent Jesus (p) to His Chosen people Catholics & no Jew was there to deny the miracle birth of Jesus (p) ?

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Do Jews believe in Jesus? NO
Do Christians believe in Jesus? Yes

Yes, the Jews are also Gods chosen people, he saved them from the Egyptians didnt he?

Jesus came, and believers in Jesus are called Christians, and Jesus is God, hence, we are the ones that choose to follow Jesus are Gods chosen people because we believe in the true God. So we choose to believe in the truth, we are his chosen people. What so funny about that?
 
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

Muslims love & respect Jesus & Mary (pbut) ; some Christians always take advantage of it .
Hi.

We speak about prophets according to the way we view them.

If you love Jesus and Mary, well, by all means and that’s why you speak lovingly and respectfully of them.

Christians do not believe in Mohammad as a prophet and that his message was from God. They do not believe what he did was righteous and morally right. They do not think he was a holy man of God in fact they think that he was the anti-thesis of Jesus Christ. We speak of him according to how we view him.

Sorry about it but that’s how we feel about him. Please understand - we do not believe in Mohammad, his teaching and the Quran, in which some of the contents are explicitly anti-Christianity.

BTW the fact that you do not believe in Paul, you do not speak loving and respectfully of him, only you cannot speak much to actually discredit him because you find it’s hard to fault his piety and obedience to God after his conversion.
 
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…Christians do not believe in Mohammad as a prophet
That’s fine with me . I don’t respect Hindu’s religious figures , I don’t even think Lord Rama , Lord Krishna they are real . But I won’t use nasty words against them when I talk to Hindus.

I don’t think it’s that hard to show a minimum respect who is respected by billion people . What some Christians are doing in the forum is not giving Christianity or Catholic Church any credit . But it’s all up to you . I beleive , we all will be accountable to God on the final Day , so I leave all these matters on Him to judge.
 
That’s fine with me . I don’t respect Hindu’s religious figures , I don’t even think Lord Rama , Lord Krishna they are real . But I won’t use nasty words against them when I talk to Hindus.
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Neither did you ancesters - they beheaded the Hindus and stacked their heads to form great mounds to scare the other Hindus, who were subsequently enslaved and sold, or subject to humiliation and servitude as dhimmis.

But no bad words, mind you, they were righteous muslims indeed.

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This verse from the qur’an might help to explain why :
5: [101] O ye who believe! ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur-an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Forbearing.
[102] Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.
Here’s the link to the official Saudi Government Religious Nazi’s approved translation :
quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=2&nSora=5&nAya=101&nSeg=1&l=arb&t=eng

:signofcross: :knight1:
 
Yes, but the level that they will use it depends.

No prophet is able to sin. Anything that Muhammed did that seems like a sin cannot be one.
Just like god cannot sin? Regardless of it’s actions.
 
I also know about hudna - no treaty can last longer than 10 years and can be broken as soon as muslims are rearmed/regrouped.
Dear Agabriel, hudna simply means truce or ceasefire.
here’s a link that shows how the word was used in classical arabic and modern time.

Maybe you are not aware but the Quran was revealed to the prophet Muhammad (saws) over a period of 23 years. The verses or group of verses were revealed due to circumstances the prophet and early Muslims faced.

More on the topic here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbab_al-nuzul
The one who acted aggressively and treacherously was mohammed who waged offensive wars against people he knew were poorly armed, in caravans that had women and children that were not heavily armed, and cities that were not known for their armies but for trade and crops.
While I don’t mean to patronize you here, what you wrote above is a lie either through your ignorance or biased against islam.
I challenge you to back up the above quote with 1 credible example.
He at least two that we know of assasinated, he lusted after another man’s wife and ended out getting her because he said Allah said it was ok, and had a man tortured to get the rest of his loot, and waged so many offensive wars and raids that no one has an exact count except that they know it was well over 50. He would raid for loot and slaves.
You can try to rewrite history, but it won’t fly here.
The prophet did not lust after another man’s wife, Zainab bint Jahsh wasn’t happy in her marriage to the prophet’s addopted son Zaid ibn Haritha so they divorced. However, pre-islamic culture considered it a taboo to marry the ex-wife of an adopted son. The prophet desired to marry Zainab after her divorce but was sensitive to pre-islamic culture which considered marriage to an adopted son’s ex-wife as incest.

More on the topic here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaynab_bint_Jahsh#Marriages
These so called ‘open enemies’ were just ones that didn’t want islam and found it false. It is the same today. You are telling me that the hadiths are false while the translations are the accepted translations. And by the way I downloaded the hadiths too even the hadiths that were censored by USC so as to know what the muslims have that we are not supposed to see anymore.
wrong, the open enemies that persecuted the prophet’s family were muslims, at least outwardly.
Sorry, more taqiyya/kithman.
If you believe Taqiyya is practiced by all muslims then you are wrong, It is a shia only belief. Sunnis don’t believe or practice it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya
  • Intentionally preventing unbelievers from Understanding Qur’an-> 17:45-76
There were spiritual barriers between the Holy Prophet and the disbelievers, because, inspite of what is stated in the preceding verse, they cut themselves off from the true nature and therefore were isolated from the messenger of Allah. The hidden veil, put by Allah between the Holy Prophet and them, sometimes made them unable to see him even when he was standing before them, while they were seeing other things.

This happened in the case of Abu Lahab’s wife, when she heard Surah 111 revealed about her she was infuriated and headed towards the Ka’bah where the prophet and abu bakr were sitting.
She said to abu bakr “I hear that Muhammad is satirizing me. If I find him I will smash him. We reject the reprobate. His words we repudiate; His religion, we loathe and hate.”

meanwhile the prophet was sitting beside him yet she didn’t see him due to the Veil Allah placed between her and the prophet.
I also don’t need a lesson in 7th century politics. psst, we are in the 21st century. Many countries are honoring trade agreements with the likes of Saudi Arabia, as an example - the biggest exporter of jihadists, the biggest funder of jihadist training. Oh, but you don’t look at that as aggression, or war, do you? It is ‘opening up the world to islam’ and your jihadists are just doing a day’s work. ho hum.
what you need is a lesson in objectivity and manners. About saudi arabia and the Jihadi’s You are barking up the wrong tree, I don’t support, believe or condone what they are doing.
 
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… But I won’t use nasty words against them when I talk to Hindus.
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How many Hindu suicide bombers have there been?

“In my own reading of the Koran, I began counting the invocations to violence. I gave up after the first 50, 60, or 70 pages.” - Cardinal George Pell, Archbishop of Sydney, Australia.
 
This because we know how Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, etc… are treated when muslims gain significant numbers. Just look at any country in the entire world with a muslim majority and then look at how the minorities are treated. How do religious minorities do in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt, Turkey, Kosovo, Indonesia, Iran, etc…?

When muslims treat others with respect and dignity when they are in the majority I will them some respect!
I don’t think it’s that hard to show a minimum respect who is respected by billion people . What some Christians are doing in the forum is not giving Christianity or Catholic Church any credit . But it’s all up to you . I beleive , we all will be accountable to God on the final Day , so I leave all these matters on Him to judge.
 
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