how do muslims view Jesus?

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rayaan i am an ex muslim.so i know very well about the relationship of muslims with god.just answer my previos post pls.if you want
 
morning_star777 said:
well rayaan,you claim that quran=true torah+true psalms+true gospels.correct?
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The Quran is the final testament, sent to refute all the corruptions of the previous books and confirm the truth in the One true God/.

No partners.

No sons

Just one true God
 
Rayaan said:
We believe Jesus was the messenger of God…

He may have been born a Jew, that dosent matter…

Messengers have been sent to humanity throughout history starting with Adam pbuh and finally ending with Mohamed pbuh…

The duty and task of the messengers was to reveal the message of God to humanity, it was then a test upon the individual to abide by Gods will, ultimately each individual soul would face his creator on Judgment Day and answer of his/her life…

When each and every messenger was sent his duty was to clear and destroy the corruptions and reveal Gods message…
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Hi Rayann,
What corruptions did Adam clear in revealing God’s message?
 
Prophet Adam pbuh was the first messenger of god and the first human
 
Rayaan said:
Prophet Adam pbuh was the first messenger of god and the first human
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Yes, I know that Adam is the first human. But you said that Jesus was a messenger, that messengers from God began with Adam and that *each and every messenger was sent his duty to clear and destroy corruptions revealed in God’s message. *My question is what corruptions was Adam clearing?
 
Rayaan said:
The Quran is the final testament, sent to refute all the corruptions of the previous books and confirm the truth in the One true God/.

No partners.

No sons

Just one true God
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then why your allah didn’t send quran before?why it is final testament?wats wrong did those previous ppl who got such books wat can be corrupt?and how can allah’s word corrupted?so is allah a liar?why he didn’t prevent corruption?
 
Adam was the 1st human and messenger, he revealed the first revelation of God to humanity,

The following messengers did not clear and destroy the corruptions in Gods message the came to clear and destroy the HUMAN corruptions that existed and that were introduced alongside Gods message as the will of God…

E.G- Jesus is son of God/ God Himself

Note: there were many messengers sent, to many people and nations, many who we know of, many who we do not, they all however revealed Gods message to the people after which it was upon the individual to abide by Gods will and not to attack or corrupt or distort it.
 
morning_star777 said:
then why your allah didn’t send quran before?why it is final testament?wats wrong did those previous ppl who got such books wat can be corrupt?and how can allah’s word corrupted?so is allah a liar?why he didn’t prevent corruption?
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God sent his message via prophets since the beginning to humanity…

The Quran is the final testament, the final truth, sent to refute all previous corruptions and confirm the truth in the one true God.

2-Its the final testament because it is the final revelation that God will send via a prophet to humanity.

Its this or nothing, this is humanities final chance to abide by Gods will or face the consequences on Judgment Day

3- God has not prevented corruption except for the final testament the Quran, this is Gods will, it was not his will to not allow humanity to corrupt his word, its was Gods will that the messengers were to reveal his word to humanity.

Then it was up to humanity to obey and seek salvation in his word, if they attacked his word and corrupted it by adding there own beliefs and principles then they will face the final day and Judgment.,
 
Well, then you believe that Adam is not counted as “each and every” I guess, since you cannot tell us what corruptions he was sent to clear up. How can you say that what Jesus taught through the Apostles is not true, as I understand that your Holy Book (the Q’uran) does not say that the Bible is corrupted, but rather people should look to it (and the Jewish Torah) as being from God.
 
rayaan,planten&try to give some prove with their own logic that quran is true&all previous books altered.but i guess you have only 1 source to prove it and its QURAn.its strange.i am amazed why allah’s word altered by men.but allah said that want happene in past or wat will happen in future all are allah’s will.so i think allah knew that those books will be destroy.then why he didn’t prevent it?why he creat the final testament drama?
 
ya ya i guess.allah wanted to through ppl in hell curiously.so these past scriptures had been altered.anyway if we found all teaching of previous books in quran then how can it be the final testament?cuz all had been sent by allah in those previous books.but men altered those then allah sent those again with a new coat named quran.correct?but its not important.i am still amazed how can allahs word changed!allah’s words are so poor!so weak?
 
It was his will…

Rocky Yes, we love Moses, we love Jesus and Noah and Adam, no Muslim would ever attack these prophets sometimes we are aghast at the way christians stand by and let media/Hollywood humiliate Jesus in the way they do without responding to them.

We believe that the Torah and and Injeel (Gospels) were indeed sent by God and we are to respect them as they contain the shadow of Gods will, meaning even though people have corrupted them and failed to preserve them, they still contain kernels of truth which cannot be denied as a result no true Muslim could never e’g burn a bible or use it as shooting practice (same for the Torah)

It was nice talking to you all, but i have family to attend to and I hope i speak to you all in the future at some point.,
 
Rayaan said:
Rocky Yes, we love Moses, we love Jesus and Noah and Adam, no Muslim would ever attack these prophets sometimes we are aghast at the way christians stand by and let media/Hollywood humiliate Jesus in the way they do without responding to them.
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Muslims stands by as well. You really only are sensitive about Mohammad.
 
No we dont, you insult prophet Jesus or moses in muslim cointries then you are asking for ALOT of trouble and I mean that…

No media organisation no indiviual, no group woul dare to throw insults at the messengers of God…

In the west, when it comes to Jesus and Moses because they are “shared” in a way by christians and jews it is just expected that you in your socieites will act to stand up for the prophets and defend them and condemn the disbeleivers (as it were)…

but thats not the case, ive seen too many insulting programmes where jesus is used to get cheap laughs, discussion amongst muslims in Europe and now heading towards a agreement that if the christians dont defend Jesus/moses against the secularists then muslims will have to…
 
^ When the west made insulting cartoons of Mohammad, you muslims violently protested.

But when the west ridicules Jesus, you dont care. Thats because Jesus is just a mascot in Islam.
 
listen rayaan,if every thing is your allah’s will then its clear that your allah is not very good.and if he can destroy his own words then he is a liar cuz allah told that his word is eternal.and mr.agnos i am happy that you have joined in this discussion.welcome dear brother agnos thiest
 
Rayaan said:
but thats not the case, ive seen too many insulting programmes where jesus is used to get cheap laughs, discussion amongst muslims in Europe and now heading towards a agreement that if the christians dont defend Jesus/moses against the secularists then muslims will have to…
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Not perhaps the wisest move, I’d have thought.
 
AgnosTheist said:
^ When the west made insulting cartoons of Mohammad, you muslims violently protested.

But when the west ridicules Jesus, you dont care. Thats because Jesus is just a mascot in Islam.
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yes brother you are correct.muslims were violent.and jesus really is a mascot in islam.islam didn’t give jesus any kind of honor.
 
from the posts i think the question has answered, at least as good as i have heard

this issue reminds me of views on Mary. Non-Catholics maybe do not have such an exhalted view of her? would it fair to refuse to believe that they thought anything good about her and through her in the mud even when they say they do not? all because they don’t think she specially sinless and all that

incidently, muslims DO believe Mary was sinless and perfect like a Prophet and the angel did speak to he like in the Gospels. muslims look at Mary in a better light than many christians

muslims don’t have to put down jesus because of his followers

if only you Abrahamic faiths could be like Hindus, with many different ideas of who is great guru, the great god, and most profound teaching, and yet truely be one great religion. maybe if you guys had some more prophets, and some of you believed some of the prophets were god, and some weren’t, but you all agreed on all of them.

you guys don’t even seem to know that it is all One God. not my god and your allah. Allah means God. it is like saying “Those horrid French people worship a different god they call dieu”
 
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