Personally, Iād limit it to those possessing valid apostolic succession.OK. I understand.
If that is the only way then surely every Protestant Church should have the right to be allowed to attend and have a full voice in an ecumenical council?
Once Lutherans allowed female ordination reconciliation became impossible.
Nonsense. A large group of Lutherans who have held fast to the confessions donāt ordain women.
Absolutely. Although, I would be okay with simply representatives from our conference the CELC. The CELC represents many denominations, but we are all on the same page.OK. I understand.
If that is the only way then surely every Protestant Church should have the right to be allowed to attend and have a full voice in an ecumenical council?
Mantuaās never going to happen. So continues our protest.
Of course you would be okay with simply representatives from your conference.
LOLā¦
Letās say the impossible happened and this occurred. What if more churches cropped up, after that Ecumenical Council, denying the unified and unanimous teachings established at that Ecumenical Council? Should they too have a voice vis-a-vis another Ecumenical Council, just as the other Protestant churches did, prior to their existence?Of course you would be okay with simply representatives from your conference.
If doctrinal truth regarding those teachings that continue to divide, can be found only through an Ecumenical Council comprised of every church regardless of denomination, then we are in big trouble.
No thatās not what I said. I would be happy with representatives from the CELC, not specifically from the WELS only. Other Protestant conferences could have their own reps.Of course you would be okay with simply representatives from your conference.
It depends on what those churches were teaching.If doctrinal truth regarding those teachings that continue to divide, can be found only through an Ecumenical Council comprised of every church regardless of denomination, then we are in big trouble.
I was just joking aroundā¦
They could say the same thing about your church or my church. They might insist that the teachings of my church or your church are wrong, and therefore our respective church representatives should not be allowed to join the Ecumenical Council. It just would not work due to doctrinal division, in my humble opinion. For example, people who view the Eucharist as a symbolic meal should not have to compromise just because other churches disagree, therefore the Ecumenical Council would end in an impasse.
None of the Protestant churches existed until the 16th century reformation, so that would exclude all of them. A few however, are claiming that the true church founded by Jesus existed prior to, and alongside the man-made Catholic Church founded by someone other than Jesus - post Pentecost, but provide absolutely no proof. In other words Ignatius of Antioch, who belonged to the Catholic Church did not belong to the same Catholic Church that Augustine belonged to; makes no sense to me.
So, House, when exactly do you propose that Jesus reneged on His promise to guide His Church?
He never did, and hasnāt still. He continues to guide His Church, even when human sin blurs our understanding of what He intends.So, House, when exactly do you propose that Jesus reneged on His promise to guide His Church?
I donāt think the Roman Catholic Church is āHis Churchā, only a part of it as is mine.So, House, when exactly do you propose that Jesus reneged on His promise to guide His Church?
He just let it be in error for 1,500 years.
But if we have to wait for Jesus to return to complete His guidance of His universal Catholic Church, then itās safe to say that perhaps, on a doctrinal level, the gates of Hell have temporarily prevailed against His Church, at least until Jesus returns?
As a former non-Catholic, my search for the historical church founded by Jesus led me to the Catholic Church i.e. Jesus founded the Catholic Church circa AD 33 in Jerusalem, on Pentecost. All of the Protestant Churches (product of the reformation) were founded by other men, and women. However, as per the Catholic Church, and like you said, they are a part of the Mystical Body of Christ of which Jesus is the Head and Savior.
So, House, when exactly do you propose that Jesus reneged on His promise to guide His Church?
Not at all, unless you think the Church Triumphant has been over run.But if we have to wait for Jesus to return to complete His guidance of His universal Catholic Church, then itās safe to say that perhaps, on a doctrinal level, the gates of Hell have temporarily prevailed against His Church, at least until Jesus returns?
Huge logical misstep.So, House, when exactly do you propose that Jesus reneged on His promise to guide His Church?
