How do we address non-Catholic Christian clergy (title-wise)?

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Some protestant faiths will only refer to their preacher by his name. The same is true for their church leaders or deacons. The qualification for deacons in some of those churches is that they have some sort of skill to contribute, like lawn work, carpentry, etc. They never refer to other faith tradition titles. A Catholic priest would be Mr. So-and-So. The same would be true about a Catholic Bishop. The only exception would be if they hold a doctorate degree. Then it would be Dr. So-and-so. Other Protestant faith leaders are merely referred to by Mr. or Dr., but never Rev., Fr., Pastor, Deacon, etc.

It gets uncomfortable with certain people in some faiths. Rabii, Reverend (protestant only), Father, Deacon., Bishop, Mother, Sister, Brother, Mister, Miss, Mrs.
Olo,

I certianly disagree. I think it is proper to call a pastor or priest by the title they prefer. I call a Catholic priest as “father.” Nothing wrong with it.

Many protestant pastors are addressed as “pastor.” I dont know where you get your information from.

My pastor prefers his first name and in fact uses his first name in the bulletin as the one to deliver the sermon on that day.

Rob
 
Thank you for all of your responses. They helped a lot!

Non nisi te, Domine!
-A.M.T. Fisher
 
The protestant and Catholic faiths are not equal and never will be. Address non-Catholics by their name or a non-religious title like sir/mr/ms/etc.
 
Anglicans call their priests, Father and attach either Surname or Christian name or some just say Father. Some also try to use just their Christain names in attempt to being familiar or something? I don’t know but I have heard it often in the last 25 years and that what I do know. Our present priest I call him Father ‘and his Christian name’.
 
😊 I knew someone will have seen. I actually misread the title of the thread and somehow thought its was asking how ‘we’ address the wives…😊😊 sorry for confusing you and any other reader who saw it. 😊 though as I’ve re-edited that first post, some do try to just use their Christian names to them too. It don’t sit well with me. But well. I think it is an attempt to be ‘equal’ be familiar or something with them?🤷
 
It is to keep from reaching a point of religious indifference. It is also an opportunity to dialog with them and convert them over to the true faith. Its more along the lines of fraternal correction than being combative.
 
It is to keep from reaching a point of religious indifference. It is also an opportunity to dialog with them and convert them over to the true faith. Its more along the lines of fraternal correction than being combative.
hmm
and your point being you tollerate me on here so that you can convert me slowly to Catholicism even though am already a Christian and believe in God but that isn’t enough for you… sorry this is the wrong thread for this topc:blush:
 
no the primary reason we have you is out of love. God made each and everyone one of us. we do tolerate that you have not come to the fullness of truth that is the church, and we pray that one day we will welcome you into its membership.
 
I am a recent convert into the Catholic Church (Deo Gratias!), and I was wondering how we address clergy from Protestant Denominations (any of the denoms is good to look at, but I was especially wondering about the Episcopal Church *). I know that they do not have valid apostolic sucession, and therefore do not have valid Holy Orders; so I figured it would be incorrect/(wrong?) to address a Protestant minister as “Father” or “Rev.” (and with the advent of female clergy in many of the Protestant denominations it gets even more confusing), but then there’s the issue of courtesy. What is everyones’ take on it?

(My guess would be it is ok for addressing Eastern Orthodox clergy by their titles, seeing as they have valid sucession.)*

Well, I would say probably the same way I address my parent’s Roman Catholic priest as Father and then his name, even though I feel that the the Roman church by its doctrines and practices has done much to separate itself from what Jesus taught the Apostles and what the Early Church practiced. I would just simply say that courtesy wins the day:)
 
The protestant and Catholic faiths are not equal and never will be. Address non-Catholics by their name or a non-religious title like sir/mr/ms/etc.
Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger must have missed the memo concerning indifference.

In his letter of March 9, 1993 to Dr. Johannes Hanselmann, the Provincial Bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Bavaria, the Cardinal started his letter with,

“Dear Provincial Bishop,”

He probably could have greeted the Bishop with, “Dear Dr. Hanselmann,” and gotten away with it, but he recognized Bishop Hanselmann as “Bishop”.

Jon

EDIT: My source is the Cardinal’s book, * Pilgrim Fellowship of Faith, The Church as Communion*
 
Common courtesy dictates one refers or addresses them by the title they prefer. I have a very good friend who is a Catholic priest. I refer to him as Father _______.
My lutheran pastor prefers Pastor _______.
Years ago I had a close association with an Episcopal parish and school. The rector there preferred Mr. _________. That is how I referred to him.
There was an Anglican clergymen in town some years back who preferred Father ______.
That’s what I called him.
My dad was a Luheran pastor who had a doctorate in sacred theology. Some referred to him as Dr. _________, but Pastor was more common. I referred to him as Dad (:D).

Reverend is usually a title, but not in the sense of the way one might address him.

Referring to an Anglican priest as Father, or a Luther clergyman as Pastor is not a compromising of your Catholic belief that protestant clergy are not in apostolic succession. It is simply good manners.

Jon
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My pastor prefers to be called by his first name (for adults) & as Pastor[first name] by the young folks.

However, growing up, the custom was to call pastors “Brother”. (I suppose that a woman pastor would have been called “Sister”🤷.) But then, we were in a Free Methodist church, & most everybody called each other “brother” & “sister”, anyhow.

My grandmother had a dear dear friend who was Catholic, & when she met Tess’ pastor–who was a monsignor–she started calling him “Brother” about 2 sentences in. After she left for home, Monsignor told Tess & her husband that “I know something about those Holiness people, & I have rarely been so complimented as when she recognized me as her brother in Christ”.🙂 Made me love him as my brother in Christ without ever having met him.

{PS: Jon, I love that :Dbit about your father!}
 
Even female clergy can be called Pastor. With most of them that I’ve met they think that’s okay. Or as in the case of televangelist Joyce Meyer people call her “Joyce”
The United Church minister and the Anglican priest (Archdeacon) in this town are both women. To me they are Rev. Charlene and Rev. Kathy. If they wish, I’ll call them Charlene & Kathy but so far they haven’t given me that permission.
 
I am a recent convert into the Catholic Church (Deo Gratias!), and I was wondering how we address clergy from Protestant Denominations (any of the denoms is good to look at, but I was especially wondering about the Episcopal Church *). I know that they do not have valid apostolic sucession, and therefore do not have valid Holy Orders; so I figured it would be incorrect/(wrong?) to address a Protestant minister as “Father” or “Rev.” (and with the advent of female clergy in many of the Protestant denominations it gets even more confusing), but then there’s the issue of courtesy. What is everyones’ take on it?

(My guess would be it is ok for addressing Eastern Orthodox clergy by their titles, seeing as they have valid sucession.)*

Pastor is fine. Brother is fine. Depending on the church, perhaps “Elder”. (While all pastors are elders, not all churches use that title for pastor). If you’re down South, where I’m from, “Preacher” would work. Father and Reverend would not be appropriate. When in doubt, “Mr” is fine.
 
Pastor is fine. Brother is fine. Depending on the church, perhaps “Elder”. (While all pastors are elders, not all churches use that title for pastor). If you’re down South, where I’m from, “Preacher” would work. Father and Reverend would not be appropriate. When in doubt, “Mr” is fine.
How about “Padre” or “Parson” like as in some western movies?
 
How about “Padre” or “Parson” like as in some western movies?
I don’t know of any denominations or churches that still use “parson” (although they do have pasonages). Nothing wrong with it that I know of, it’s just outdated.

Padre is the same as “Father” so it wouldn’t be appropriate.
 
How about “Padre” or “Parson” like as in some western movies?
I don’t know about Parson but outside of a Spanish parish, the only person I’d call Padre is a military chaplain. I don’t know if it’s the same in other militaries but in Canada the Chaplains are always known as ‘The Catholic Padre’ and ‘The Protestant Padre’ and called Padre Surname by most people. A Catholic parishioner might call the priest Fr. Given Name or Surname, but everyone else calls him Padre Surname.
 
I don’t know about Parson but outside of a Spanish parish, the only person I’d call Padre is a military chaplain. I don’t know if it’s the same in other militaries but in Canada the Chaplains are always known as ‘The Catholic Padre’ and ‘The Protestant Padre’ and called Padre Surname by most people. A Catholic parishioner might call the priest Fr. Given Name or Surname, but everyone else calls him Padre Surname.
Remember the Christmas song “Walking in a Winter Wonderland” “In the meadow we could build a snowman and pretend that he is ‘Parson Brown’” He’ll say “are you married” we’ll say “no man” but you can do the job when you’re in town."
 
This reminds me of a joke I once heard. Or maybe it was an actual story, I’ve lost track of the source.

At an ecumenical gathering in the late 1980’s when some christian groups had just started making women bishops, a catholic bishop was introduced to a woman Episcopal bishop by a bishop from one of the southern ‘bible belt’ churches. “Nice to meet you bishop, he said.”

Afterward leaving that group, the catholic bishop was approached by the orthodox patriarch attending the gathering who gave him a friendly chiding, saying “Did I hear you address her as bishop? Aren’t you worried about the precedent of acknowledging her episcopacy?”

“Not at all,” the catholic bishop replied. “She’s as much a bishop as any of these other guys and I’ve been calling them ‘bishop’ for years!”

Moral of the story: sometimes what you say to be polite isn’t to be taken as a theological acknowledgement. Just call them “reverend” and you’ll be fine.
 
Remember the Christmas song “Walking in a Winter Wonderland” “In the meadow we could build a snowman and pretend that he is ‘Parson Brown’” He’ll say “are you married” we’ll say “no man” but you can do the job when you’re in town."
I’m familiar with the term but cannot recall hearing it used outside of that song, although it’s not rare to see it in older books – ie Canterbury Tales. I know that sometimes a rectory or manse is called a parsonage but again, it’s not something that you hear much these days.
 
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