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LegoGE1947
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I have only heard the name “Bahai” but have no idea what is it ?
How do we address non-Catholic Christian clergy (title-wise)?
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mangy_dog
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As it concerns females “imitating or mocking” the catholic clergy…I don’t address them at all. I have no reason or motive to be in their presence; speak to or even look at.
Anyone else I address as Chaplain or as it is appropriate for the situation.
Yes, " Chaplain John or whatever.
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LegoGE1947
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I wouldn’t address them by any clergy title. I would simply address them as I would any other woman if I know their name. They are after all human beings and are entitled to be treated as such.
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theyoungmonk
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Religious are Br. Sr. Abbot, Abess etc pretty much whichether religon or group they belong to as they are obviously in religious vows or leaders over those who are.
The “clergy” though are diffrent, I try to use seculer titles, or no title at all, just avoiding a direct adress. If the man was an ex-catholic Priest then he would be able to get “reverend” as he does still hold Holy Orders. Mr and Ms seem to work pretty well tbh as they are still polite while not afirming their delusions.
Orthodox Clergy are adressed as they would be properly refered to as they hold valid orders that require respect. I would also kiss the hand of an Orthodox priest as I would a Priest in Communon.
The “clergy” though are diffrent, I try to use seculer titles, or no title at all, just avoiding a direct adress. If the man was an ex-catholic Priest then he would be able to get “reverend” as he does still hold Holy Orders. Mr and Ms seem to work pretty well tbh as they are still polite while not afirming their delusions.
Orthodox Clergy are adressed as they would be properly refered to as they hold valid orders that require respect. I would also kiss the hand of an Orthodox priest as I would a Priest in Communon.
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arthra
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Baha’i Faith is an independent religion began around 1844 on the Gregorian Calendar and 1260 anno hijra… Many of the early adherents were Shiah Muslims and so there were persecutions from the beginning and repression has continued to this day in Iran. It is based on the revealed Writings of Baha’u’llah (the Founder Prophet), the Bab (His Predecessor) and Abdul-Baha the eldest Son of Baha’u’llah.
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Phemie
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Actually, they lose all entitlement to ‘reverend’ or any other religious title when they are laicized, regardless of the fact that they remain priests until they die.
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theyoungmonk
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I am prepared to give them that (espeacilly if they wernt properly laicized). the reason is that they do hold Holy Orders so even if they have lost entitlement and I would never call them Fr. i am willing to aknowledge valid Orders.
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dbhost
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I am a Baptist, and my pastor goes by that title. “Pastor Ron”. I have friends that are Presbyterian and their pastors go by the title of “Minister”. Some denominations use Pastor, Minister, Reverend etc…
I tend to default to… If I don’t know your preference, or denomination but I do know you are Christian clergy, I will refer to you as “Reverend” until you correct me, and then I will go by whatever honorrific you ask me to use.
What you should not see in a mainstream Protestant denomination is the use of the term “Father” for clergy, as we reserve that exclusively for the Heavenly Father.
I hope this makes sense.
I tend to default to… If I don’t know your preference, or denomination but I do know you are Christian clergy, I will refer to you as “Reverend” until you correct me, and then I will go by whatever honorrific you ask me to use.
What you should not see in a mainstream Protestant denomination is the use of the term “Father” for clergy, as we reserve that exclusively for the Heavenly Father.
I hope this makes sense.
Anglicans do, and even sometimes Lutherans. One will still here Lutherans on occasion refer to Martin Luther as “Father Martin”.
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Reuben_J
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I understand and from where you come from, yes, I understand why you said that.
God bless.
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OLofMtCarmel
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Slight correction here. You reserve this term for your father, grandfather and your Heavenly Father. Just a point to be made. I remember the first time I confronted a priest. I never called him “father” until I felt drawn to the Catholic Church. I did it mainly out of respect and to see how my gut felt about it. As I studied, I realizes that many terms used in society contradict the scripture terms we’re supposedly supposed to avoid.
Rabii, Teacher, Professor, and Doctor are but a handful. All of these words mean teacher. Father’s, like myself, are teachers.
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Tyuiop411
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Usually it’s Pastor ______ or Dr. _______ here since most non-Catholic clergy here are Baptist. One thing I refuse to do however is address female clergy by any title other than Mrs. or Ms. This is especially true for Episcopal priestesses that insist on being called Mother _______
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Dhugz
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I think, it is better to address them MR. Mrs, Ms, or sir.
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BettyBoop416
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In your opinion, would it be acceptable for a non-Catholic to address a priest as “Mister?”
Why not just be polite and address a clergyman (or clergywoman, for that matter) in the manner in which they want to be addressed? I mean, is that really so hard? If you refuse to call a protestant clergyman “reverend” or “pastor” because they don’t have “valid holy orders,” what exactly do you think you’re accomplishing? Who do you think you’re impressing? All you’re doing is making yourself (and other Catholics by association) look rude.
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Tyuiop411
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Sir or Ma’am can’t really be construed as disrespectful. I’ve seen Protestants address priests with “sir” before and the priest didn’t think it was a big deal. However a line has to be drawn somewhere; I could possibly be okay with addressing female clergy as “pastor” but I can never for the life me be okay with addressing Episcopal priestesses as “Mother”, thats just too weird.
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Reuben_J
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Mr. Mrs. Miss or Miss are respectable address given to a person. One cannot be wrong in using them. More often than not, if you do not subscribe to another’s belief and you are on the outside, generally people would understand if you do not address them with their religious titles. If we are courteous with our disposition and manners, I cannot see why we should come off as being rude. Probably it is more rude to demand that a person should be addressed with their religious titles in all circumstances.
Had dinner last night with a Catholic priest who is a good friend. I would never address him in any way other than “Father _____”. “Sir” just seems, to me, unequal to his role in the Church.
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BettyBoop416
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I agree that those terms are not, in themselves, disrespectful. But as you said, a line has to be drawn somewhere. So, where is that line? Would it be disrespectful for a non-Catholic to call a priest Mr. Jones instead of Fr. Jones? What about a bishop? If so, where is the line for protestant clergy?
While not being terms of disrespect, I can see where their use might be interpreted as being a deliberate expression of limited respect if used instead of someone’s religious title.
My non-Catholic, non-believing husband and my parish priest are tennis buddies. It’s not unusual for me to come home to find these two sweaty men sitting on the patio (with their shirts off) drinking a beer or two, dissecting their recently completed tennis match. Although I always refer to him as Father, my husband calls him by his first name. Every time he does I cringe, but Father couldn’t care less.
I’m sure Father ______ wouldn’t flinch either if I called him simply by his first name. I guess the use of the title “Father” is more about me and my upbringing than it is about his expectations.
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BettyBoop416
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Yes, that is undoubtedly the case with me too. Still, it makes me cringe to hear him called by his first name.
And seeing him with his shirt off REALLY give me the willies.
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