How do you handle your grown childrens religious choice?

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I wonder if this wouldn’t make your child think that you believe that one religion is as good as another, and that you are supporting him in this very attitude.
This perhaps isn’t unlike a similar question. If your child is marrying outside the church, perhaps in a civil ceremony, should you participate in the wedding? Give the bride away or whatever.
Or for some reason are these times when it is better to avoid any disapproval over a bad decision on your child’s part? Feel free to try to convince me otherwise; I would be interested in hearing what there is to say.
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AlanFromWichita:
I think this is a wonderful idea. It will help you understand him better as well, and this way he knows you are moving toward him. Maintain your Catholicism, but let him know your love for him is no conditional upon his choice-making. That, IMO, can be difficult for some families, as many times the child gets the erroneous idea that years and years of correction and reward and punishment has an underlying, unconditional love behind all of it that is always loving and unitive no matter what the behavior-of-the-day has been.

Alan
 
I feel some of the poster seemed very liberal to me. I’m more on the conservative side, can’t you tell 😃 . I don’t think only Catholics are going to heaven but I feel he and my grandchildren would be missing out on our beautiful religion, sacraments, history and sacred traditions. That’s just me. So I’ll be praying and praying.
 
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mspencer:
I wonder if this wouldn’t make your child think that you believe that one religion is as good as another, and that you are supporting him in this very attitude.
This perhaps isn’t unlike a similar question. If your child is marrying outside the church, perhaps in a civil ceremony, should you participate in the wedding? Give the bride away or whatever.
Or for some reason are these times when it is better to avoid any disapproval over a bad decision on your child’s part? Feel free to try to convince me otherwise; I would be interested in hearing what there is to say.
In my opinion, maintaining a bond with my child is more important than his correct choice of religion at some temporal point in his life. I may not “approve” of a decision my child would make, but if the child is of age then I would go to his wedding. For that matter, I go to other people’s weddings who are not Catholic.

I believe that one way or another, a civil wedding can be just as serious a bond as a religious one. Evidently the Church thinks so, or such weddings would never have to go to annulment proceedings.

When I worked as a tax preparer, I could actually “marry” a couple who were eligible to be married, by filing a joint federal tax return for them – thus in the eyes of the federal government they are now married. Also I got to deal with many very odd family circumstances under which the question of marriage took up to fifteen minutes to resolve. It is a shame what has happened to marriage.

To me, if I attended a service at a Protestant church with a friend (or in this case a son), it would not mean that I believed in their doctrines, I’d refrain from reciting anything non-Catholic such as a creed or something, and I would not participate in their Communion. That said, when I’m a guest in their house I act the way a guest should behave, and I might even sing a hymn or two with them.

When I attend non-Catholic ceremonies and services, it does not take me away from the Catholic Church, but helps me to see all the different “flavors” of Christianity and gives me a more complete perspective of what Catholicism is and how it differs from the others. I have no doubts that I am going to be enticed into another religion because, like my marriage, I am currently Catholic because of a personal choice I have made and after some time I can say that I am no longer tempted or impressed by all the various denominations. I’m interested in them, and they even help teach me things from time to time that are not against Catholic teachings, but in practice I seldom get invited to anything Protestant except an occasional wedding or funeral.

Alan
 
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Tinkerbell:
I feel some of the poster seemed very liberal to me. I’m more on the conservative side, can’t you tell 😃 . I don’t think only Catholics are going to heaven but I feel he and my grandchildren would be missing out on our beautiful religion, sacraments, history and sacred traditions. That’s just me. So I’ll be praying and praying.
I understand how you feel. I would feel very sad if my children, when they grew up, left the Church I love so much. Very very sad.

I wanted to offer you a bit of hope though. My husband’s family are devout Catholics. When I married him I told him that under NO terms would I become Catholic or my children. No way - no how - never. I thought that Catholics were NOT Christians - thought they had hookey beliefs that they made up and were so far from the Bible it wasn’t even funny. So he (lukewarm as he was) left his Church & became Evangelical along side me. He was even baptized after becoming “born again.”

Fast forward 12 years and guess what? I started to reading Catholic apologetic type books to find out how I could “save” the Catholics I knew and wouldn’t you know… I became Catholic - brought my husband back to the Catholic Church and now all 5 of our children are Catholic. Needless to say, my husband’s parents are very very happy. His father recently told me that he prayed EVERY single day of those 12 years that his son would come back.

So don’t lose hope! God loves your son & your grandchildren even more than you do. Keep praying that he’ll come back. And for Christmas - birthdays etc… go ahead & give him books that explain our faith. Give him a subscription to This Rock Magazine (can be ordered from this site).

I will pray for your son also.

Bless you,
CM
 
carol marie:
I understand how you feel. I would feel very sad if my children, when they grew up, left the Church I love so much. Very very sad.

I wanted to offer you a bit of hope though. My husband’s family are devout Catholics. When I married him I told him that under NO terms would I become Catholic or my children. No way - no how - never. I thought that Catholics were NOT Christians - thought they had hookey beliefs that they made up and were so far from the Bible it wasn’t even funny. So he (lukewarm as he was) left his Church & became Evangelical along side me. He was even baptized after becoming “born again.”

Fast forward 12 years and guess what? I started to reading Catholic apologetic type books to find out how I could “save” the Catholics I knew and wouldn’t you know… I became Catholic - brought my husband back to the Catholic Church and now all 5 of our children are Catholic. Needless to say, my husband’s parents are very very happy. His father recently told me that he prayed EVERY single day of those 12 years that his son would come back.

So don’t lose hope! God loves your son & your grandchildren even more than you do. Keep praying that he’ll come back. And for Christmas - birthdays etc… go ahead & give him books that explain our faith. Give him a subscription to This Rock Magazine (can be ordered from this site).

I will pray for your son also.

Bless you,
CM
Bless you Carol Marie. I needed to hear that. Good idea about the Rock magazine, I love it.
 
Island Oak:
OK–time to get a grip and some perspective. This is **not **the kind of mental trauma that would justify pumping drugs into your system to cope–especially if you have no history of chronic depression. This is a very normal part of the maturation/separation process any young adult could go through–and likely not the first or last time he will make choices which differ or even conflict with those you might make. You need to learn to accept that the choices he makes as an independent adult (assuming no immorality/evil) are not a personal rejection of you or your values. Drugging yourself into a mental fog of denial is no way to deal with your disappointment nor anything which lends itself to making you a model of solid, mature faith who could be a resource for your son in his search.
Island Oak, don’t you think this response is a bit insensitive? You are not able to understand how difficult or even traumatic this is for Tinkerbell. In defense of antidepressants, they do not put you into a “mental fog of denial”, they provide assistance in restoring a chemical imbalance that could be contributing to how Tinkerbell is perceiving her son’s decision to search. She has obviously been struggling and has had the strength to not only pray and maintain hope, but seek the help she needs for her depression.

Tinkerbell–God bless you and your family. Keep praying, and I hope you will find peace with this very soon.

Blessings,
Krisy
 
I can tell you what I would do. I would rant and rave about how closed minded and silly they would be to “look elsewhere” for their religion.

I would not alienate them but they would know I am not happy. Oh boy would they know it. Not only is it my job to keep them on the right track, but it is my right to let them know I am not happy with their decisions, - whether or not I have any control over them.

I see no sense at all in “trying to understand” or attending their protestant service with them to “show them your support and love” while they are on this “journey”. Bleck. Give me a break.

I firmly believe in my Catholic faith and take the fact that I am responsible for my children’s spiritual development very seriously. Just becuase they will some day be adults does not mean that I will some day stop being their mother.
 
Thanks Krisy,
I also thought Island Oak was a little hard on me but each to their own opinion. I’m not taking street drugs like she made it sound. I hate taking medicine. I hate being weak. I want to be strong. This is just the second day and I already feel better.
 
Little Mary:
I can tell you what I would do. I would rant and rave about how closed minded and silly they would be to “look elsewhere” for their religion.

I would not alienate them but they would know I am not happy. Oh boy would they know it. Not only is it my job to keep them on the right track, but it is my right to let them know I am not happy with their decisions, - whether or not I have any control over them.

I see no sense at all in “trying to understand” or attending their protestant service with them to “show them your support and love” while they are on this “journey”. Bleck. Give me a break.

I firmly believe in my Catholic faith and take the fact that I am responsible for my children’s spiritual development very seriously. Just becuase they will some day be adults does not mean that I will some day stop being their mother.
I like you Little Mary. You have the guts to put it out there.
Good for you.
I like the verse from Revelations 3:15-16
"I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were cold or hot!
So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth.
 
Tinkerbell–

You are not being weak by taking the antidepressants, you are being strong and smart. Don’t ever let anyone make you feel “lesser” because you have the intelligence and capability to do something about a condition that you cannot control. Sharing your experience and how you are coping is an inspiration to others. It really seems sad to me that in today’s world where millions of people have found a renewed sense of living because of the miracle of these medications that there are still some who stigmatize because of their use. Just know that you are supported, and I will keep you and your family in my prayers.

Peace and God’s love,
Krisy
 
Our new bishop, Michael Jackels, just got here from Rome recently.

He said that when he became of age he quit going to Church and joined Buddhists. It was as soon as possible after he was away from his parents that he left.

Then after two years he “got smart” and came back to the Church, in a “big way.”

They can’t forget their roots.


Alan
 
Tinkerbell…welcome to the club! There is an entire generation of young catholics who got next to nothing as far as catechesis goes and many times got the antithesis of it by well-meaning and sincere types who thought they were helping bring the Church ‘up-to-date’…most of this went on under the radar while parents thought they were learning the faith! One of my own sons told me 10 years later that in confirmation class they were instructed not to tell their parents what they were learning, because they were of the ‘old school’ and “wouldn’t understand”!!
Now not only did you have this but also the outward pull of a secular world coming at them from all directions. This is the generation that was basically thrown to the wolves.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, there are thousands, maybe millions of bereft parents, heartbroken and praying and wondering what to do about their atheist, pagan, buddhist, hindu, new age, baptist or whatever adult children…who will not practice the faith, nor raise their children catholic and seem to have lost what little faith they had…in many cases, despite years of ‘catholic’ schooling. Your choice of words…You Idiots…does ring a bell!!

As a member of POACA (parents of adult children anonymous)…I think this might be a good place to post something someone sent me and the advice, I believe, is excellent.

A relative of mine happened to be watching a show on ewtn one day (she doesn’t remember which show) and heard an apologist, and mother of 6, talking about this subject. It was Kristine Franklin. Now my relative just jotted down as fast as she could what Kristine said, so my apologies to Mrs Franklin if the words are not exact. But in general I enclose in parens what she heard.

“When children have left the Church…it is a terrible heartache for so many…when I get calls, emails, letters and I tell them:”

“Conversion, any conversion of the heart, is the work of the Holy Spirit…God has to do it…you can’t. There is no book, movie, tape etc that you can give them. You may think you know your child’s heart, but only God knows his heart, and it’s up to Him to work on the secret places of your child’s heart…
What you do is #1 pray…#2 fast (it is a technique given to us by Jesus and it breaks the hold of demons), #3 make sacrifices for your child’s conversion (go without something, make a donation etc…ask Mary how to make sacrificial offerings for your child.) Also it’s best to keep your mouth shut and pray for God to send friends that will be good influences in your child’s life. Lastly #4, never give up hope. Remember Jesus loves your child more than you do and wants them to go to heaven more than you do…so keep hoping and keep praying no matter how impossible it seems.”

Hope this helps…blessings, sconea
 
Thanks Sconea…Your advice does help. I was going to give him a little book by Patrick Madrid called Answer Me This but I guess I’ll wait and see if he brings up the subject first.
 
Another resource is to get the tapes/CDs offered at this website:

www.biblechristiansociety.com

They are free … have them in your hip pocket in case he starts belly achin’ about “…wjere is that in the bible??..” Better yet, listen to them yourself so that you can correct immediately.
 
I’m a cradle Catholic and have have only recently come back to the Catholic Church. I didn’t raise my 2 daughters in the Church although they were baptized Catholic and did go to Catholic schools in first and second grades.

They are both now happily married and they both are very active in Protestant Churches. I take full responsibility for the fact that they are not Catholics; however, I am thankful that they are Christians and go to Church. My daughters have become lovely women.

I do pray very hard for their conversions to come back to the Church. Instead of nagging them to “become Catholic”, I leave holy cards and literature around my house in hopes that they will become curious and ask questions. When my grandchildren come to visit me I tell them stories about our Saints and take them to Mass with me when they have overnight visits at my house. Most importantly, I try to show a good example of my love for Jesus in my every day life.

I suggest you read about the life of Saint Monica.

I will pray for all of us who have children and loved ones that don’t share our Catholic faith for various reasons. I don’t mean to judge anyone for feeling the need to take nerve medication but I just feel that constant prayer for our family along with devotion to the Eucharist is so much more effective. God Bless.
 
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Tinkerbell:
My son has been church shopping for 2 years. He shopped around for a while but came back to the Catholic Church. Now he tells me he is going to a Baptist Church Sunday.
This is really upsetting to me and will start taken anti-depressants today (no, I have NEVER taken them before). They know I’m concerned but I don’t want them to know how much. His wife was brought up protestant but later became Catholic after they were married. She really does not take her faith serious and it does’t really matter what church she goes to.
On the inside I screaming YOU IDOTS but on the outside I’m try to calmly discuss and maybe plant some seeds of faith. I must not be very good at it. I have been praying for them and want the best for them. It just kills me that my grandchilden might not be brought up in the Catholic Church and miss out on the Sacrements especially the Euchrist. Please say a little pray for him and his family.
How do you handle a situation like this?
This could have been my brother and his first wife! My brother was raised in the pre-Vatican II Church (He just turned 60.) His first wife converted to Catholicism, and for a while, they were the most devout Catholic couple one could hope to meet! Then, they flirted with Jehovah’s Witnesses, then stopped going to church altogether, and then finally (since they had moved down South!), they checked out the Baptists. They wandered back to Catholicsm when she was dying of liver cancer, and their parish was quite supportive of them. Yet, he has gone back to the Baptists because he felt they had more of a sense of fellowship with Sunday school.

His children were never baptized–I know this bothered my very Catholic mom. She spoke to him about it-- why he was not in the Catholic Church (‘Where you belong–I raised you right!! Don’t you forget that!’), but the more she brought it up, the more it turned him off.

From observing this from afar as a sib, and form dealing with the my own two girls who don’t go to church at all (They are in their early/mid 20’s.), I have come to the conclusion that a parent has control over the outward expression of religion when children are minors. Once they are adults and move out, it’s not for the parent/s to discuss this with the adult children–only if the adult children want to discuss it. A strong witness to the beauty of my own faith as I see it (along with my prayers for their salvation!) is the best I can do at this time. I do discuss with my daughters my various activities I do through my parish, and I tell them about the wonderful retreats I make at the monastery I go to, and I talk to them about things going on at my parish, and I invite them to the social events at the church–festivals and dinners, etc. If they are having a rough time with something in their lives, I tell them I will pray for them. They are a bit embarrassed to hear that, but I believe in my heart, that they do appreciate this.

When they have dinner at my house, we ALWAYS say the traditional grace before meals–they KNOW better than to ‘skip’ this!! They also know that dinner on Fridays during Lent will be meatless, etc.

At least when you have raised your children in the Catholic faith, you HAVE given them the very best you can–they have something ‘to reject’! I have been told by others that it’s typical for some adult children to reject their religious training while they ‘figure out’ who they are as young adults. Ultimately, most come back to how they were raised.

We often speak of faith as being a gift. We raise our children to have the Catholic faith, but it’s up to them, as adults, to accept or reject this gift of Faith. If they are not ‘ready’ to accept it, our pleading, cajoling, badgering will do no good.

It’s between them and God. All we can do is pray for them.

:gopray:
 
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