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Surely some could vote with their knees as well.You can “vote with your feet” at times.
Actually I like that as a bumper sticker politically. “you can vote with your knees” and a picture of someone praying.
Surely some could vote with their knees as well.You can “vote with your feet” at times.
Considering the topic of this thread, criticizing anyone is rather silly. It’s supposed to be about how we each* individually* receive communion, not a critique of each other.… if not then I think it a little hypocritical to criticize people for kneeling before their God.
I agree.Considering the topic of this thread, criticizing anyone is rather silly. It’s supposed to be about how we each* individually* receive communion, not a critique of each other.
Thankyou that helps a lot, I have found your quote on a web page, do you have a link to the document. The document you referenced is a vatican document that is not the GIRM, althrough it does address the issue.Hmm. I’ve never heard that before.
That’s the old GIRM.
Here is the updated GIRM:
The norm established for the Dioceses of the United States of America is that Holy Communion is to be received standing, unless an individual member of the faithful wishes to receive Communion while kneeling (Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, Instruction, Redemptionis Sacramentum, March 25, 2004, no. 91).
I have not been trying to criticize anyone.Considering the topic of this thread, criticizing anyone is rather silly. It’s supposed to be about how we each* individually* receive communion, not a critique of each other.
Hi, actually that is the GIRM #160. This is the updated version that went into effect when the changes in the English Mass went into effect in Advent last year. I’m not really sure why that document is referenced after.Thankyou that helps a lot, I have found your quote on a web page, do you have a link to the document. The document you referenced is a vatican document that is not the GIRM, althrough it does address the issue.
Hi, actually that is the GIRM #160. This is the updated version that went into effect when the changes in the English Mass went into effect in Advent last year. I’m not really sure why that document is referenced after.
You are welcome.Thanks everyone, the new USCCB norm helps a lot. I had not seen that wording before, so I stand corrected. It does not seem to be an issue of obedience to our Bishops at all to receive kneeling at the NO mass. My apologies for all of the outdated confusion.
Now if someone could explain 1004 to me, in light of CCC paragragh 1520 to me (as opposed to paragraph 1532) Sorry, different thread![]()
Thanks. I knew that the GIRM posted was outdated, but I wanted to see what sort of responses I’d get on the CITH (Plus, I didn’t feel like looking it up at the time!). I must say, however, that the wording is rather… eh… strange. A person is to stand unless he kneels. Right. Why not just say that a person can use whatever posture (standing or kneeling) that he prefers? It’d sound so much better.Hmm. I’ve never heard that before.
That’s the old GIRM.
Here is the updated GIRM:
The norm established for the Dioceses of the United States of America is that Holy Communion is to be received standing, unless an individual member of the faithful wishes to receive Communion while kneeling (Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, Instruction, Redemptionis Sacramentum, March 25, 2004, no. 91).
Yes, the wording is weird. Who knows.Thanks. I knew that the GIRM posted was outdated, but I wanted to see what sort of responses I’d get on the CITH (Plus, I didn’t feel like looking it up at the time!). I must say, however, that the wording is rather… eh… strange. A person is to stand unless he kneels. Right. Why not just say that a person can use whatever posture (standing or kneeling) that he prefers? It’d sound so much better.
Since this is a “fix” of the wording from the last edition, it looks to me like they wanted to add that one clause “unless an individual member of the faithful wishes to receive Communion while kneeling” without changing anything else in the sentance.Yes, the wording is weird. Who knows.
Ummmm…no. A priest in the Roman Rite has his hands consecrated (not blessed) for the purpose of confecting the Eucharist (a bishop is a priest). A deacon does not have his hands consecrated. And priests in the Eastern Churches also do not have their hands consecrated.From the way I see it: the bishop/priest/deacon’s hands are blessed. They are ordinary ministers. I see it as a recognition of their authority and the command to feed Our Lord’s sheep (us, the laity) .
The EMHC’s hands are the same as mine. They are just deputized.
So, if you are ever in a hospital or nursing home/rehab center, or home-bound or a shut-in, you won’t receive Communion? Because in the above situations, the person most likely to bring the Eucharist to you is an EMHC. We have less clergy, so the Ordinary Ministers are being stretched to the limit, and often delegate Communion Calls to the EMHC who is able to carry out this ministry.On the tongue (and kneeling) whether at the TLM or NO. Never from an EMHC either!
The question in the poll specified “at Mass”. The presence of at least one priest is assured.So, if you are ever in a hospital or nursing home/rehab center, or home-bound or a shut-in, you won’t receive Communion? Because in the above situations, the person most likely to bring the Eucharist to you is an EMHC. We have less clergy, so the Ordinary Ministers are being stretched to the limit, and often delegate Communion Calls to the EMHC who is able to carry out this ministry.
I certainly didn’t read it like you did. We are talking about how we recieve not how we might recieve in some kind of circumstance in the future.So, if you are ever in a hospital or nursing home/rehab center, or home-bound or a shut-in, you won’t receive Communion? Because in the above situations, the person most likely to bring the Eucharist to you is an EMHC. We have less clergy, so the Ordinary Ministers are being stretched to the limit, and often delegate Communion Calls to the EMHC who is able to carry out this ministry.