Just don’t respond. People who have to be so rude as to say these things to someone’s mutual friend on facebook isn’t the kind of person you need to waste your time convincing anyway. Someone so without tact isn’t bound to listen anyway. I’d just post something along the lines of:
What precipitated this conversation? How did it start?
Thank you, I don’t read the above often
Yeah I don’t quite get it. For example, I am familiar with a lesbian couple who has adopted a baby girl from China. Quite a few of their gay couple friends have done this as well. So, you’re at a social function and they’re all there with their kids. How does one confront them about it without picking a fight? How does one invite themselves into the personal life of another family? It’s the same as the wierdness accompanying asking a pregnant mom why she is having another and why doesn’t she use birth control. Just…weird. And confrontational.
Yup! Minding your own buisness and keeping your mouth shut-imagine that. People should get that tattooed on their foreheads!Thank you, I don’t read the above often
Yeah I don’t quite get it. For example, I am familiar with a lesbian couple who has adopted a baby girl from China. Quite a few of their gay couple friends have done this as well. So, you’re at a social function and they’re all there with their kids. How does one confront them about it without picking a fight? How does one invite themselves into the personal life of another family? It’s the same as the wierdness accompanying asking a pregnant mom why she is having another and why doesn’t she use birth control. Just…weird. And confrontational.
Arguing about the morality of homosexual behavior will get you nowhere, if you are dealing with an activist. He or she is committed to the view they hold, and won’t be swayed by an online discussion. Attempting to argue the point will only make them angrier, and convince them more deeply that you really are “homophobic”, “prejudiced”, and “bigoted”.
Tell the person who insulted you that even though you think homosexual activity is sinful, that doesn’t mean you hate homosexuals. Baptists think dancing is sinful, but they don’t hate dancers. It is entirely possible to regard an activity as wrong without hating the people who engage in that activity.
It was bunched in with other interesting topics, such as women’s ordination. When we were on the topic, they were very militant. Must admit, I was intimidated and avoided the topic with them in the future. (There were several times this was randomly brought up trying to get me to change my mind.)
THAT ^ is my favourite response so far.
Well in real life you get can get fired from jobs. At a work place there were 3 homosexual men, I respected them and got along well with then and one was a former Priest. I was forth right with my Catholicism and never discussed the topic. Sometimes you can only be a silent example.But how does one end up in situations like this? I mean, I can understand getting uncharitable comments on your Facebook, Livejournal, Blog, or whatever, if you post something remotely anti-gay or maybe even just pro-Catholic. And I can see arguing with someone in a dialog on a forum. But when it comes to real live conversations…are you guys actually going up to gay people and telling them they are sinning? I don’t have an occassion to dabate the issue with people in real life.
I suppose if I did, I’d just cite what the CCC says, like I did in another thread. But I don’t get all this fighting and bickering in real life.
Well, your second senario is not a social situation. You are responsible for raising your kids, and the Catholic Church requires Catholics to raise their children Catholic. So you have to buck up and either transfer your kids to a Catholic school, other other private school, or homeschool them in that case. You can try and raise enough petitions to have it changed in secular schools, but I don’t think you’d get enough petitions.
I would respond by pointing out that those words don’t seem to mean what the person thinks they mean.
We have chosen to try homeschooling because of this. On boards like this you will get statements you could not use face to face; if you care about the person you are engaging in a discussion you would choose your words very carefully. It’s a difficult issue to discuss and with a relative this would be extra difficult. If you are invited to same sex union of a sibling or a close cousin it would be difficult, but as a orthodox Catholic you can’t attend such an event. Or if you are asked to contribute to a wedding gift at work for a same sex union, you have to nicely decline; I have not experienced this situation but chances are that someday down the road I will.
Point out that Prejudiced and Bigoted would be if Catholics/Catholicism merely focused on the procreative nature of heterosexual relations: that is we are not to contracept and must be in a legitimate, monogamous relationship.
It’s a bit rich when homosexuals, who represent only from 1-3% of the population can fling insults at the majority held opinion of society and use epithets such as ‘homophobia’ and ‘bigoted’ as derogatory terms. They are, in effect, denegrating the point of view of the majority and yet, at the same time, they demand equal treatment and equal rights. Their attitude reeks of a double standard.
That last one actually shut him up and even got seven Likes.So unless you’re using the Stupid Edition, kindly refrain from deploying the typical liberal tactic of playing the homophobe card.
Hi Lost,
It’s half and half. Sure it won’t convince them against the evils of the gay lifestyle but this argument is good enough against the homophobe charge. You can’t tell me I’m homophobic when I’m only uncomfortable around a measly portion of the the entire homosexual population.
youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
You can post saying that you believe that separating the unitive aspect from the procreative aspect of sex is sinful in every case, even for contracepting married couples. Does that make me a heterophobe?
I’d argue that this is a poor argument. Human sex organs don’t care how they’re stimulated, they just like BEING stimulated. This is why humans masturbate. This is why someone can derive sexual pleasure from sticking their penis into another consenting adult’s anus.