How do you think the Crucifixion really happened?

[Spyder1jcd]

Kevin Walker:

There is something else about Christ’s crucifixion which I have been meditating over.

In a debate at a Harvard Divinity School lecture last year with three Muslims who each had a separate argument of why Jesus survived the crucifixion, I disagreed with the Muslim physician who not only minimalized the scourging and spearing, but said that Jesus was a young man and would have survived the ordeal - that Jesus was unconscious but alive when they removed him from the cross.

My counter argument was that at the time of Christ, the average life span for a Roman citizen was 25 years and 50% of Romans died before their 10th birthday (Archeological Review magazine); therefore if Jesus was between 27 and 33 years old during his crucifixion experience, Jesus was not a young man but an old man and could not have survived the ordeal. The Muslim physician never considered the average life span 2,000 years ago. Today in the USA the average lifespan is 73 years (I think).

Actually, Jesus would’ve been in his prime age, but that is not important. What IS important is the fact presented in Scripture that Jesus died, and that is the piercing of the side. The spear that pierced the side of Jesus confirmed his death, because we have clear Scriptural evidence that it struck the heart. The “water” that poured out with the blood was actually serum from a sac surrounding the heart. The blood was that from His heart. So, even if He survived crucifixion, He couldn’t have survived the piercing.

 

[Genesis315]

Spyder1jcd:

Actually, Jesus would’ve been in his prime age, but that is not important. What IS important is the fact presented in Scripture that Jesus died, and that is the piercing of the side. The spear that pierced the side of Jesus confirmed his death, because we have clear Scriptural evidence that it struck the heart. The “water” that poured out with the blood was actually serum from a sac surrounding the heart. The blood was that from His heart. So, even if He survived crucifixion, He couldn’t have survived the piercing.

During crucifixion, the muscles are forced into the inhale position and the only way to exhale is to push up with one’s legs. The only way to breath is by thrusting up with one’s legs so it would have been obvious if he was still alive.

 

[huskerfan]

They knew he was dead and that was why they didn’t smash his knees. The piercing of his heart went along with scripture.

 

[rsagebrush]

Spyder,

Watch the Passion of the Christ by Mel Gibson, it was inspired and it was what happened as best as mere man can explain it.

 

[Spyder1jcd]

Genesis315:

During crucifixion, the muscles are forced into the inhale position and the only way to exhale is to push up with one’s legs. The only way to breath is by thrusting up with one’s legs so it would have been obvious if he was still alive.

That is quite true as well. Thank you for pointing that out.

 

[Spyder1jcd]

rsagebrush:

Spyder,

Watch the Passion of the Christ by Mel Gibson, it was inspired and it was what happened as best as mere man can explain it.

I have watched “The Passion” several times over, and even though it is an inspiring and powerful film, it is, in light of my research, inaccurate. In my opinion, Mel should’ve looked to the Shroud of Turin, NOT a book written by an alleged young visionary, a book that could’ve undergone several reproductions and may have recieved countless embellishings. Just face it, there is just too much scientifical, medical, and archeological evidence that the crucifixion didn’t happen that way.