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How does it feel to be around the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist? Can you actually feel the presence of god? I’ve never been to a mass or orthodox service before, and Would love to get perspectives from catholics, orthodox, Protestants, Jews, or anyone else. thanks 🙂
 
I’ve attended Catholic Masses and honestly for me I can feel the presence of Christ just as much, sometimes more, wherever I am. But that’s me. God bless you as your heart strives to walk in His presence and may the Prince of Peace be with you always.
 
I grew up in a Protestant Church and have run the gamut of most of the world religions. Thank God he did finally get through my stubborness. I converted into the Catholic Church. There is definetly someone there in the Catholic Church in a real and personal way that Jesus is not there anywhere else. I have walked into other ecclesial communities and am stunned and disconcerted by the lack of the Real Presence of Christ in the Tabernacle. It does make a difference and those without the Real Presence of Christ in the Tabernacle, those places feel so empty. This is not to say that the other churches and ecclesial communities do not have Jesus in their midst, but He is present to Catholics in a special way.

I feel as if I am before His Throne and am awed and thankful for such a precious gift.
 
Although many do feel a special presence and many of the saints had wonderful encounters with the True Presence. My experiences as a former member of TEC, is that when I have visited my former parish, I felt an emptiness. This also happened in my Catholic parish when the priest, unknown to me and others, during a lenten retreat and there was a guest speaker, the Pastor had removed the Blessed Sacrament from the tabernacle while the person spoke.

The moment I entered the pew I felt the strongest feeling that something was missing, it is difficult to explain. Before the speaker began, Father got up and announced that he had indeed removed Jesus from the tabernacle and I then realized why I felt that emptiness.

I think we Catholics are so use to knowing that our Lord is truely present Body and Blood that we don’t always recognize how it feels when He is no longer in the church.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette
 
Excellent question! One ive been asking myself this very day!

For me at first i struggled, its a teaching that is tough to get your head around (i dont profess to even get it now), i mean look at what happened in John 6 when our Lord first spoke on this, it was tough for them too. I begged for the faith to see it… and it works! I love being near the altar at mass and knowing Christ is there. I cant recieve yet as im not confirmed, so i just reflect on it, each mass joyfully looking forward to that day i pray the lord will allow me to partake 🙂

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I am a convert to Catholicism after 47 years of evangelical Protestantism.

I don’t believe that Christians should rely on “feelings” to guide their faith. We need to rely on facts, not our feelings.

Feelings are changeable. Our hormones, the weather, lack of sleep, certain foods, the circumstances of life (e.g., landing or losing a job, having a fight with our spouse, watching our children do something amazing or something naughty)–all of these can influence our feelings.

If we rely on feelings to guide our faith, we will find that our faith is strong one minute and weak the next minute. We will be “up and down” Christians, tossed around in our mind and soul by up and down feelings. We will believe one day, and not believe the next day.

One of the things I learned in the evangelical Protestant churches is that feelings can be and often ARE “manufactured” by music, lighting, decor, etc. We need to be careful as Catholics not to try to “manufacture” feelings in ourselves. I worry when I hear Catholics say that a certain church building “feels” more reverent, or that a certain Mass “felt” reverent and holy. I worry that they are basing their faith on their own “feelings,” and that if these feelings should change (due to being in a different church building, or hearing different music), that their faith will suffer.

I especially worry when I hear Catholics say that they could “feel” the presence of God in their church. That’s what Protestants say all the time–“I could feel God’s presence!” So are the Protestants wrong? How can someone say that? Isn’t that coming close to denying God’s reality in someone else?

You see, feelings are NOT a reliable measure of God’s presence. Often God is closest when we cannot “feel” Him at all.

When my husband and I started attending Mass, I didn’t “feel” the Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist. But I recognized Him.

After all, I had known and trusted Jesus as my Savior since I was seven years old. For forty years, I had prayed to Him, worshipped Him, sought His aid in times of problems, praised Him for all the good things He does, and above all else, trusted Him to guide me to green pastures, still waters, and eventually to heaven. I KNEW Jesus.

And so it was natural to recognize Him when I saw Him in the Blessed Sacrament. It wasn’t a feeling. It was simple recognition–“Oh, there’s Jesus! Wow! He’s here!”

I had no idea that the Catholics teach “True Presence” as a doctrine. I just knew that the piece of bread that the priest was holding up was Jesus. I recognized Him, just like we would recognize a favorite movie star at the airport.

Remember the Bible verse–“If I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all men to myself.” I recognized Him when the priest lifted Him up. Jesus kept His promise–He drew me to Himself.

Jesus said it, I believe it. It has nothing to do with feelings. I believe what Jesus says. He speaks the truth, and I believe it, whether I feel it or not.

Now that I am Catholic, I don’t “feel” much of anything around the True Presence of the Lord Jesus. I know that He is present, and I am aware of certain basic good manners that I should display when I am in the Presence of the Lord of the Universe.

I do not believe in obsessive concern over good manners in the Presence of Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament. e.g., I don’t believe Jesus is upset if someone enters His presence wearing a pair of blue jeans. I don’t believe Jesus gets mad if an elderly person talks too loudly about their latest health crisis. I don’t believe Jesus is offended if I greet someone and ask about some aspect of their lives (e.g., "How’s the new job?). I don’t believe that Jesus is insulted if we play a drum or a guitar or sing music other than Gregorian chant. I don’t believe we need to remain utterly silent and prostrate before Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament.

I enjoy gazing at Him and thinking about Him. I love going to our perpectual adoration chapel and adoring the Lord Jesus. Again, most of the time, I feel very little. I’m just aware of His True Presence.

As for going to other churches–I do occasionally go to Protestant churches because I attend various concerts in our city that are held in churches, or I attend a service to hear my mother-in-law sing in her church choir, or I am asked to play piano at one of these churches (usually a paid gig).

I am aware that Jesus is not Present in the Eucharist in these churches. But I know that He is still present, because He is present everywhere, and He is present in the hearts of Christians. Again, I’m not relying on my “feelings” in Protestant churches. I’m relying on facts–Jesus’ omniscience is a fact. So I don’t feel “let down” or “lonely” in a Protestant church because I know for a fact that Jesus is everywhere. I also know for a fact that He is not Present in the Bread and Wine in a Protestant church.
 
To the OP,

I think it most interesting that you choose or have chosen last night to start the thread, the Vigil of the Feast of Corpus Christi, the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ.

You see I have not always been Catholic. I used to be very quite Anti-Catholic and Anti-Christain. The story of conversion is a very long one, but I wanted to share the relevant part of it.

After I became Christain again, after being in a very Anti-Christain and Anti-God religion, I felt happy. I thought I was on top of the world, I became Southern Baptist. I got very involved in church and all that, but something was missing. I did not know for sure that God was with me, or if my sins were forgiven.

In a short story, I ended up writing a thesis concerning the Catholic Church. It was an idea of one of my professors at University. [who happened to be Catholic btw, though at the time I did not know it.] I set out to disprove the Catholic Church. After some preliminary research and a lot of inspiration from the Holy Spirit [which boggles the mind because again I was Anti-Catholic at the time] that if I could prove the doctrine of the Eucharist to be false, meaning the Real Presence in the Eucharist, 2000 years would come crashing down. And I have to confess, that thought excited me and tantalized me too. *

And so I wrote that thesis, but however midway [this thesis took 2 years to write by the way. It was an undergrad thesis.] I changed my tune. The more I read on the Eucharist the more I realized that it was true. The more I learned the more I was afraid. Because deep down I wanted to be where the Truth is and I have always sought the Truth. [That search has cost much, but in the end it is worth it and there are no regrets, Praise God.] At the end of those two years I turned the thesis in and I called the RCIA of a local parish and was welcomed into the Church the same year.

My first Mass I went too I was struck by the Presence. * writing this and remembering this.] When I walked into that Mass, I felt and KNEW [100%] that I was in the Presence of Almighty God. When the priest did Consecration, I wept tears, tears of joy and of desire. How I ached to partake of the Eucharist. How I desired to partake of Christ and let Christ come into me in that special way. I too wanted to be a Tabernacle for the Most Holy of Holies.

I’ll never forget the first time I received Communion. I would love to say that I never doubted in the Real Presence again, but there was a time where I was struggling with my faith once again and God answered prayer. Because of that answer to prayer, I will never doubt the Real Presence of Christ.

May Almighty God bless you on this Feast Day of the Body and Blood of Christ.**
 
Although many do feel a special presence and many of the saints had wonderful encounters with the True Presence. My experiences as a former member of TEC, is that when I have visited my former parish, I felt an emptiness. This also happened in my Catholic parish when the priest, unknown to me and others, during a lenten retreat and there was a guest speaker, the Pastor had removed the Blessed Sacrament from the tabernacle while the person spoke.

The moment I entered the pew I felt the strongest feeling that something was missing, it is difficult to explain. Before the speaker began, Father got up and announced that he had indeed removed Jesus from the tabernacle and I then realized why I felt that emptiness.

I think we Catholics are so use to knowing that our Lord is truely present Body and Blood that we don’t always recognize how it feels when He is no longer in the church.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette
I find it interesting if His body was removed that you felt an empitiness because He was no longer in the church. Wasn’t His spirit truly present in the church in that case to relieve some of the emptiness you were feeling?
 
It is as close to heaven you will ever get, in this world. :angel1:
 
BY FAITH we believe that Jesus is Really Present in the Eucharist in the Tabernacle. We do not depend upon our “feelings”, but God frequently grants us the grace to physically experiience the Presence of Jesus in Church.

When I was taking instruction in the Catholic religion, and did not yet know the doctrine of the Transubstantiation, I began to attend Mass. One Saturday evening, I entered the church through a side door that placed me in the second row from the front of the church, right in front of the Tabernacle. I knelt to say a prayer, when suddenly the Presence of God swept over me from the Tabernacle and engulfed me. This was a physical experience, not an emotional one.

When I enter a Protestant Church, even with other people, it feels empty, but when I enter an empty Catholic Church, it never feels empty.
 
How does it feel to be around the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist? Can you actually feel the presence of god? I’ve never been to a mass or orthodox service before, and Would love to get perspectives from catholics, orthodox, Protestants, Jews, or anyone else. thanks 🙂
For those who seek to remain in a State of Grace, its absolutely imperative to attend the weekly Mass and continue daily contemplative prayer.

On the night before He died, Jesus celebrated the Passover Supper with His Apostles. At that Supper, He gave us the Sacraments of the Holy Eucharist and the Priesthood. When He said over the bread and wine, “This is my Body… This is my Blood…,” To be shed so that their may be Everlasting Life. The bread was changed into His Body, the wine was changed into His Blood.

This is the Sacrament of the Eucharist. When He told the Apostles, the first of those who
share the fullness of Christ’s priesthood as bishops, to “Do this in memory of me,” He gave to the Church a sharing in the Priesthood that is His, and manifested His intention that this offering, this sacrifice, this sacred meal of His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity should be celebrated in the Church to the end of time. This is the Mass!

In the Mass, Christ acts through the ministry of the priest. He accomplishes the miracle of the complete change of the bread and wine into His Body and Precious Blood. This miracle cannot be perceived with the physical eye. It can only be grasped by faith.

Few souls understand what God would accomplish in them if they were to abandon themselves unreservedly to Him. St Ignatius of Loyola

Love consumes us only in the measure of our self-surrender. St Therese of Lisieux

It is because of Faith we exchange the present for the Future!

Astounding it is to feel the Mystical Body of Christ through the Holy Spirit intervene on a very Human level.

Often these indivuduals who truly follow this path find themselve’s consumed and devoted to the will of God through their soul.

God Bless, Gary
 
I find it interesting if His body was removed that you felt an empitiness because He was no longer in the church. Wasn’t His spirit truly present in the church in that case to relieve some of the emptiness you were feeling?
At least for me there is a difference between the Holy Spirit or Spirit of Jesus being present and our Lord’s True Body and Blood being present.

People can doubt all they want and try to explain it away and I accept that their experiences are different than mine.

All I can say is that I truely felt that something was not there or right when I entered my pew. I also felt the same when attending my former parish that was Anglo Catholic. I believe that the priest that was there during my membership had valid but illicit orders from the Old Catholics, at that time I visited the new priest was part of the Continuing Anglicans and there is much debate about validity of many of their orders being valid.

Emotions play a part in both Catholic and protestant services, however, to answer another poster, what happended had nothing to do with emotions.

One of the reasons I love the Catholic Church is that yes you can be brought to tears by the liturgy etc., but it is a very different emotion than what I have experienced in some fundamentalist type of churches. No yelling, swaying about, it is an inner peace and quiets the soul.

God Bless

Bernadette
 
At least for me there is a difference between the Holy Spirit or Spirit of Jesus being present and our Lord’s True Body and Blood being present.

One of the reasons I love the Catholic Church is that yes you can be brought to tears by the liturgy etc., but it is a very different emotion than what I have experienced in some fundamentalist type of churches. No yelling, swaying about, it is an inner peace and quiets the soul.

God Bless

Bernadette
Totally agree Bernadette. It comforts and soothes me, definitely no drama involved there.🙂
 
This thread is full of wonderful answers from people on all parts of the walk of faith, the OP included. As some have noted, God is always present, what is absent is our recognition of Him. Not to wave a red flag at my Catholic brothers and sisters, but Martin Luther said in a letter to Ulrich Zwingli, who was one of the founders of the Anabaptist movement, " God is everywhere, even in my cabbage soup."

We cannot remove ourselves from the equation of our relationship with God. After all, He died for us, so at the very least we gain value through His sacrifice. I cannot imagine any believer saying the He died for nothing. Therefore, emotion does play a role in the recognition of the presence of God. Emotion is part of us as human beings and to try to remove it is the same as cutting off a limb. It leaves us crippled. However, it does not mean that emotion is the main tool we use to deal with the otherness in the universe.

This recognition is not necessarily willed, though it may be fervidly sought. It may also be rejected. One of the turning points in my walk of faith was a Rosary Mass in Saint Marks Cathedral in Venice. (OK, Catholic brothers and sisters, you can start cheering now). I was a Hardshell Atheist at the time. The service left me profoundly disturbed, and I was not sure why. After all, I was just a tourist looking into the various chapels in the mild curiosity of a man in a strange land. It took me years to recognize that what had affected me so strongly was the presence of God. After all, I did not understand enough Italian to know what was being said. I inferred it was the Rosary being said from the repetition and the rosaries in the worshipers’ hands.

So, Guitarjesus, I also extend a welcome to you on your walk of faith. You are coming to recognition in your very questioning. Good luck and God bless.
 
How does it feel to be around the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist? Can you actually feel the presence of god? I’ve never been to a mass or orthodox service before, and Would love to get perspectives from catholics, orthodox, Protestants, Jews, or anyone else. thanks 🙂
I frequent Adoration, and it depends on my state of mind and, partly, how focused I am on Our Lord at any given moment. Sometimes I have a profound sensation of Jesus’ Presence. Other times, not. I can say, however, that something feels to be missing when I enter a non-Catholic church building. It’s still a house, but it feels to me like nobody is home. Maybe when the building is full of people, I will notice some “fellowship” or love, but when the building is empty it really seems EMPTY.

Catholic church buildings with the Eucharist reserved in the tabernacle always feel to me like I’m entering the presence of Someone. I can sometimes (not always) tell before looking at the sanctuary light to see if the tabernacle is empty.

Is that to say that God isn’t present in my kitchen or my garden? No…but He is present in a very tangible and special way in the Eucharist.
 
BY FAITH we believe that Jesus is Really Present in the Eucharist in the Tabernacle. We do not depend upon our “feelings”, but God frequently grants us the grace to physically experiience the Presence of Jesus in Church.

When I was taking instruction in the Catholic religion, and did not yet know the doctrine of the Transubstantiation, I began to attend Mass. One Saturday evening, I entered the church through a side door that placed me in the second row from the front of the church, right in front of the Tabernacle. I knelt to say a prayer, when suddenly the Presence of God swept over me from the Tabernacle and engulfed me. This was a physical experience, not an emotional one.

When I enter a Protestant Church, even with other people, it feels empty, but when I enter an empty Catholic Church, it never feels empty.
I agree with your point here, but I was to say that many people experience emotions as physical sensations. The two things are not necessarily separate.

I think it doesn’t hurt to use ALL of our faculties to experience God: physical, emotional, rational, volitional. That’s partly why our liturgies have sounds, smells, tastes, and movements.
 
All the years I was catholic I never felt the presence of the Holy Spirit or seen the work of
the Holy Spirit as I have in the Baptist Church

drywall
 
I can understand that, but remember that the Holy Spirit was there all the time. He doesn’t appear and disappear and reappear. We are the ones who either feel the Holy Spirit or we don’t. It’s like saying all the years I lived two miles from the ocean I never felt it was really there. That’s because you never got into your car and drove over to see it. It was there, you weren’t.
 
There are a lot of Protestant denominations that believe in some kind of Real Presence, as opposed to 100% symbolic. They don’t believe in transubstantiation, as we know, but quite a few believe in some kind of real presence.
But a person has to be open to it. God does not force Himself on us. We have to be interested in the first place, then He works with us and on us to bring ourselves to Him.
But if we expect to just feel the presence automatically just by being near the presence, I am not sure it works that way.
And He is present, we are just sometimes not tuned in to it…similar to God speaking to us throughout the day but our noise drowns out His voice.
 
How does it feel to be around the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist? Can you actually feel the presence of god? I’ve never been to a mass or orthodox service before, and Would love to get perspectives from catholics, orthodox, Protestants, Jews, or anyone else. thanks 🙂
when my mind truly attempts to grasp the idea I am in the Real Presence it can be so overwhelming that I begin to cry.
 
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