How does the Catholic Church view Orthodox "saints"

[Formosus]

Just my two cents:

Indeed, its been shown on this thread that there has been Orthodox post-schism saints on the liturgical calenders of the Eastern Catholic Churches. But it is a stretch to say this infallibly defines that they are in heaven. After all, inclusion in a calender does not guarantee infallibility- Our Lady of Fatima has a feast day, but the Church says Catholics are not required to believe in apparitions. Although one would do well too.

I would treat them as we treat “Blesseds”- while we can legitimately pray to them, they are not “for sure” in heaven until canonized by the Pope.

Whatever happened to lex orandi lex credandi?

 

[JuanCarlos]

Whatever happened to lex orandi lex credandi?

All I know is that barring invincible ignorance, it is necessary to be in union with Rome and subject to the Supreme Pontiff to be saved. I’ve been giving this thought ever since I read it, and I would simply advise caution when dealing with non-Catholic saints. The Eastern Churches have produced some outstanding saints in their own right- Josephat comes to mind as a pre-eminent one.

Do Orthodox Christians venerate Pius X? St. John Fisher? St. Pius V? Padre Pio? If they don’t, I would have no problem with that- they weren’t Eastern Orthodox!

 

[dvdjs]

Hmmm… indeed.

The topical question is: How does the Catholic Church view Orthodox “saints”?

East and West offers: “when it comes to the likes of Palamas or Photius, there are very good reason to question their sainthood”.
Of course, the very good reason to accept it - namely that we do accept it - has been hashed out before. But at least the response is on topic.

Isa “responds” with the usual-suspect post on St. Josaphat. The reponse is diametrically off-topic. But then, why let relevance stand in the way of taking another gratuitous shot against Eastern Catholics - ie, stand in the way of what you do on this forum?

 

[Catherine_Grant]

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Despite the acceptable question by the OP, this topic has become a spitting match for whose saints are more holy or righteous. The contemptible theme of “our saints are better” seems to draw out the worst in some of our posters. In order to assist them in not being in an occasion of sin, to promote fruitful dialogue, and to allow the board to return to its stated purpose, discussion about the Roman Catholic Church’s recognition of St. Photius, St. Gregory Palamas, or any other saints on the Eastern or Oriental Catholic or Orthodox calendars is now under a temporary ban. I expect all posters to review the purpose of the Eastern Catholicism forum and to post within the forum’s guidelines.

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