How does this happen?

[GaryTaylor]

When presented without extremism, Islam teaches peace and love of God. I respect things when they teach others to live life for God, not human desires.

What middle eastern country is this happening at? Do you have a link to confirm your words?

These are good followers who are the “Minority”. Its does little good to stop the over all chaos. And these Good Muslims will be the very muslins who are condemned by radical islam down the road.

Do you actually think and believe the few postive will affect the majority of corrupt?

The intention is good, but thats it, “The road to hell was paved with good intentions” And these good people will suffer, I pray they will find Gods forgiveness beofr it to late for them.

My Prayers are with these Good Muslims. Gary

 

[Bwtby]

What middle eastern country is this happening at? Do you have a link to confirm your words?

These are good followers who are the “Minority”. Its does little good to stop the over all chaos. And these Good Muslims will be the very muslins who are condemned by radical islam down the road.

Do you actually think and believe the few postive will affect the majority of corrupt?

The intention is good, but thats it, “The road to hell was paved with good intentions” And these good people will suffer, I pray they will find Gods forgiveness beofr it to late for them.

My Prayers are with these Good Muslims. Gary

Do you have a link to confirm your words?

 

[LtTony]

A lot of the attitudes on this forum are terrible. The videos show people screaming at children and emitting all kinds of slurs.
Aren’t we Christians?..
We can disagree with Islam but not be cold about it. We can debate without being snide. Let’s try it.

Thank you for reminding of that, silyosha. I agree with the sentiments you express, and fundamentally reject the behavior directed at the muslim fellow praying.

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I should have mentioned that had I been there, I would have stepped in. So would have most of us, I believe, just based on common manners, as the same laws that permit the muslim to pray allow others to yell their objections, however rude.

However, the discussion has gone beyond those basic principles.

The OP was a bit hypocritical IMO. One, the poster administers a muslim message board that, I believe, represses non-muslim political comments to muslims posts that frequently attack non-muslim societies. The poster has expressed a desire in the past to move to Saudi Arabia, not exactly a bastion of tolerance and free speech.

Two, there is another side to story.

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Controversial speakers were featured at the event. An equally radical element of protesters split off from the main body of protesters blocks away, according to reports, and engaged in unacceptable behavior.

The OP wrote: "…why Christian people don’t speak out against it? How come Christianity doesn’t stop these people from exhibiting such hatred?

"Is that what this great country is becoming? A country of raving lunatics? "

Based on what I’ve mention, the poster’s indignation struck me as contrived.

“To infer we are a country of raving lunatics based on the rude behavior of half-wits who lurk on the street in front” of the White House – possibly the epicenter political/religious fanaticism – is plain disingenuous.

 

[benidict]

When presented without extremism, Islam teaches peace and love of God. I respect things when they teach others to live life for God, not human desires.

Part of the problem is that you dont know who is and who is not an extremist. The same one calling you brother on one day, will be the same one taking a shot at you the next. If for example I somehow managed to walk out the gate of my base by myself, I would no doubt meet some very lovely Muslims. However, before I got 2 miles on foot, I can guarantee I would be dead. This is because of the fear instilled into the Good Muslims by the Extremist who are living right among them. Its a sad situation. I also pray for the peaceful among their people. Hopefully they will at some point prevail. Peace

 

[qui_est_ce]

Thank you for reminding of that, silyosha. I agree with the sentiments you express, and fundamentally reject the behavior directed at the muslim fellow praying.

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I should have mentioned that had I been there, I would have stepped in. So would have most of us, I believe, just based on common manners, as the same laws that permit the muslim to pray allow others to yell their objections, however rude.
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I completely agree and would have stepped in.

 

[Silyosha]

No matter how many bad people here are out there, let’s remember all the good. This goes for all faiths; I strongly believe we should all respect each other and our beliefs and remember that we don’t have to agree with someone in order to respect them. Now, sorry for derail the thread somewhat. I won’t interrupt anymore.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Do you have a link to confirm your words?

Seem’s I asked that question first:shrug:

 

[schaick]

When presented without extremism, Islam teaches peace and love of God. I respect things when they teach others to live life for God, not human desires.

Actually Islam teaches fear and submitting to allah.

There is not the Father and Child relationship between allah and Muslims the way Christians have with GOD.

Where we know GOD through Jesus and the Holy Spirit, allah is distant and does not want a relationship but worship.

 

[allyl]

Yes it is, however the OP was asking why Christians don’t condemn other Christians, the answer is we do, it’s the Muslim’s who won’t condemn the actions of their own. Time has nothing to do with it.

It’s easy to live in America/England and say such things. I don’t blame you, very often your news channels lead you to believe so. I live in an Islamic country and they are not pro-terrorist, they do actually vocally condemn such things.
It is not ‘muslim’ for them to kill other people in the name of their religion. It’s important to remember that terrorism has no religion rather than pointing fingers.

 

[allyl]

Actually Islam teaches fear and submitting to allah.

There is not the Father and Child relationship between allah and Muslims the way Christians have with GOD.

Where we know GOD through Jesus and the Holy Spirit, allah is distant and does not want a relationship but worship.

I thought that we had this no-fear system too but coming to this forum, a lot of Christians fear the Lord. Fear to the point where I’m confused because this is not what I was taught.

Christianity can go both ways, we can argue for and against this concept, we can say that it means respect but the hebrew word is very clear that it means fear. In the last book of prophecy, it says 'He said in a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water”

Not much a difference between Islam and Christianity.

 

[qui_est_ce]

I thought that we had this no-fear system too but coming to this forum, a lot of Christians fear the Lord. Fear to the point where I’m confused because this is not what I was taught.

Christianity can go both ways, we can argue for and against this concept, we can say that it means respect but the hebrew word is very clear that it means fear. In the last book of prophecy, it says 'He said in a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water”

Not much a difference between Islam and Christianity.

In Christianity, “fear” means to love the Lord and be in awe of Him. It is not fear as in be afraid. I don’t know ancient Hebrew, so I’m not sure your interpretation is correct, or perhaps it only refers to the OT, because Jesus came to fulfill the OT and teach a new Law, Love of God and Love of neighbor. [BIBLEDRB]luke 10:27[/BIBLEDRB] [BIBLEDRB]matt 22:37-39[/BIBLEDRB]

The Christian Supreme Being is a God of order and of reason and of love. He is not an arbitrary God.

 

[nablaise]

Actually Islam teaches fear and submitting to allah.

There is not the Father and Child relationship between allah and Muslims the way Christians have with GOD.

Where we know GOD through Jesus and the Holy Spirit, allah is distant and does not want a relationship but worship.

Yes! a sad understanding of ‘worship’ itself.
While the Catholic Church gives some credits to Islam for acknowledging the God of Abraham, at the end, Islam really deform the conceipt of the God of Abraham and turn Him into a god. Unfortunately many Christians do the same although they keep in view the ideal: father-son relationship instead of master-slave of Muslims. Here is a great video which explain ‘what God is’. That’s the best understanding of God I have ever heard and glad to learn about.

True worship really means pure love. Jesus made it clear and precise in his summary of the commandments. To worship means 'to love God with all your being,…"
Love can not be without relationships.
The Muslim separation of love (if any) with relationship with God is terrifying. When I think about it, it seems to me that no true Muslim can possibly go to Heaven. Heaven is a pure relationship of love between God and us. But Islam promotes a relationship of Master/slave between God and men, which at the end is really a blasphemy to the glory of God.

God bless

 

[nablaise]

Also it is love that works with faith and it creates relationships of ‘family’
Master/slave relationship is not a relationship of love therefore of faith, it is of power and fear.

This again explains how that (OP) happens. Sadly even Christians buy into this fake relationship, and we all do to some degree. This fear makes our worship imperfect. But there is a difference between those who fail to trust love and those who simply disregard or deny it.

True worship is true love and vice versa.

There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. - 1 John 4:18

God bless

 

[LtTony]

I live in an Islamic country and they are not pro-terrorist, they do actually vocally condemn such things.
It is not ‘muslim’ for them to kill other people in the name of their religion. It’s important to remember that terrorism has no religion rather than pointing fingers.

I am glad to hear that, allyl. Keep posting. You can offer some insight.

It’s easy to live in America/England and say such things. I don’t blame you, very often your news channels lead you to believe so.

I don’t understand this part of your post. I suppose I understand the news media part – don’t agree with it entirely, but understand it. But I don’t understand the significance of “it’s easy to say.”