How have you managed to remain Catholic?

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rdavid1 said:
I am a Catholic convert since 1985. I am also Gay and in a totally monogamous Gay Marriage.
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Not a difficult place at all. In the Catholic faith, Marriage is between a man and a woman, period.

What you have is a civil arrangement which is against Catholic Dogma. Gay Marriage, sodomy, its just not acceptable and puts you outside Catholic standards.
 
Thom18 said:
What is that supposed to mean?
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It’s not our place to judge and tell someone to go somewhere else. They should be welcomed in the church and prayed for. Through prayers and teaching, with God’s help he will find salvation.
 
joeybaggz said:
chicken little” Catholics on this site
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Since your post immediately followed mine it would be logical to infer you consider me one of them. I am a realist. The culture and leadereship are current.
 
It could just be a coincidence which is the more likely conclusion.
 
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I believe your parish priests have done you a great disservice by not informing you of what the church actually teaches. I hope that you will have an open mind and prayerfully research it. What society tells us is morally right will change, but objective rights and wrong and natural law will never change. God’s law is written on our hearts. Following Christ is not comfortable or easy. Please pray for me to have the courage to do the right thing when I need to, and I will pray for you as well.
 
I think the behavior of some of our priests has been horrible, but I also believe the politicians behind the investigations are grandstanding and totally biased against the Catholic Church. Attacking a prominent pro-life, pro-family church furthers their political agenda. The Church needs toclean up its act, but don’t underestimate the political agenda of some of these politicians.
 
Actually, no. “Chicken Little” Catholics are all those on this site, and everywhere else in the CC that think the “current” scandal of abuse occurring 30 to 70 years ago is “current.” Outside of Wuerl and Pope Francis, who are the other bishops covering up the abuse occurring in 2011 or 2015 or 2017? I guess realists believe that abuse is a currently ongoing phenomenon occurring at a pace that is equal to or greater than that of 30 to 70 years ago.
My CL reference was not aimed at anyone in particular but at an unfortunate, and rather large, group of Catholics, many of whom seem to love posting their “truth” on this forum.
 
There were just 2 priests arrested in Miami not long ago who were having sex in their car in broad daylght next to a playground. I am not a fool who thinks there is no current scandal in the Church involving homosexual priests and other problems. When I converted to the Catholic faith it did not mean I left my brain at the door.
The Church has a huge mess to clean up and as long as the laity have the reaction there is nothing they can do about it or this happened long ago nothng is going
to change.
I want to have respect for priests, bishops and cardinals to be Holy Men and honest
and lead moral lives.
 
The priest at mass today gave a good homily about this. He said the the priests are the instruments. You don’t leave God because some of his instruments have done wrong.
 
7_Sorrows said:
I want to have respect for priests, bishops and cardinals to be Holy Men and honest
and lead moral lives.
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And the vast majority of priests, bishops and cardinals ARE Holy men, honest, and lead moral lives. My wish is that people would stop IDENTIFYING our Church with the minority of priests who as monsters have betrayed Jesus, His Church, and their vows, and START identifying our Church with all those like Padre Pio, Mother Teresa, John Paul II, Macimillan Kolbe, Bernadette, John Vianney, Edith Stein, and thousands others, but mostly with Jesus Christ, our founder.
 
I appreciate all your responses. Thank you very much. I went to mass yesterday and received communion. I felt its strength. Like a lot of you, Jesus and the Eucharist have been the only thing drawing me back to the church.

I had doubts during this latest scandal of the past few weeks about the Eucharist. Not about the real presence as a truth but about the priests doing the consecrating. What if my priest is one of these awful people? How do we know that what they do is valid? What if they are not validly consecrated themselves? Ie, they were never Christian to begin with and never took the faith seriously so never meant any acts/vows they made before God?

I can’t imagine these predators were ever God believers or God fearers. So are they really priests?
 
As long as the Catholic Church, however,
remains a home where these kinds of priests, bishops and cardinals are allowed
to flourish and commit their scandalous acts and spread their corruption without
serious action to stop it, it will only get worse.
The Catholic Church has a history of many
Holy men and Holy women, but as a Catholic and part of the body of Christ, these unholy men also reflect on me and Jesus.
I want the Catholic church to be a beacon
of light around the world.
 
My loyalty is not to the individual man who may be a sinner. My loyalty is to Jesus and to his mystical Body here on earth. It is the Church which is populated with sinners. I suppose Jesus could have called down legions of angels to be the priests of the Church, but He didn’t. And there are FAR more good priests than not. So I will stay. I won’t let sinful men drive me out.
 
There is a church I attend, not my parish, where they say the St. Michael prayer after each Mass. I’m going to suggest it for my watered-down parish that keeps things as close to the lowest common denominator as possible . I’m still nauseated by this recent scandal, which I think should be called a defilement.
 
I believe the Catholic Church is the one true Church established by Jesus. And while I am disgusted by the scandals, I thank Jesus for showing us that at least 8% of the clergy will always be corrupt, non-believers due to His selection of Judas.

Be at peace & and pray for a spring time renewal in the Church

God Bless
 
RosalieM said:
There is a church I attend, not my parish, where they say the St. Michael prayer after each Mass. I’m going to suggest it for my watered-down parish that keeps things as close to the lowest common denominator as possible . I’m still nauseated by this recent scandal, which I think should be called a defilement.
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Yesterday, my pastor told me we would be adding the St. Michael prayer after every Mass. [Yesterday was the first.]
 
I haven’t had time to read all the responses so risk being repetitious here; Jesus and Paul both warned us of those who would sneak in among us and wreak havoc. It’s all part of the age in which we live. The church was never guaranteed immunity from the hatred of those who would seek to destroy it from within. Stand fast, my friend. This was all predicted and will likely happen again. What he does promise in Matt 16 is that evildoers will never succeed in destroying what he has begun. " That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
 
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The Church is an institution necessarily full of humans. We are fallen. Some of us grievously so.

But it is the only place where you can get the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ.

If you decide to skip Mass because you’re angry at the Church, you’re hurting yourself.

That is what has kept me there. The Eucharist primarily and the Sacraments after that.
 
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