How is the LDS a cult?

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Yes…I also wonder what happens to excellent contributions to thrift shops…my daughters had expensive clothes at times to give away, and we would wonder how many poor would ge them.

And I remember the nuns telling us of the unusable clothing they would literally have to toss, not worthy for the poor.
 
KathleenGee said:
And I remember the nuns telling us of the unusable clothing they would literally have to toss, not worthy for the poor.
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And doesn’t that say it all? The clothing was not worthy of the poor because it was not worthy of a human being, and certainly not worthy of the suffering Christ found in all of the poor. I love my Church for upholding the dignity of every person.
 
J_the_Centrist said:
I agree, LDS is not a cult and we should see them as brothers and sisters in Christ. However, the splinter groups associated with LDS, which have gotten some attention over the year’s should be categorized as such for the harm they cause others. Unfortunately too many people can’t seem to differentiate between the two.
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we cannot view them as our Christian brothers. They are NOT trinitaran. They are polytheistic. please research some of the older mormon threads
 
kimg901 said:
I guess the answer to you question would depend on where you live. If you live in Utah then there is obviously a much higher lds population than Catholic so of course it would make sense that people would turn to the local bishops.
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Utah generally has a surplus of Fast Offerings (funds donated to the ward by members to be used for the needy) these surplus funds are sent to other parts of the world where the need is greater.
 
mtolympus said:
Utah generally has a surplus of Fast Offerings (funds donated to the ward by members to be used for the needy) these surplus funds are sent to other parts of the world where the need is greater.
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Okay. But there are so many needy people in the world why would the lds store great amounts of food in Salt Lake (ive seen the warehouses) rather than send them to these needy people instead of just the local food that is donated by members?
 
Yes…Steve…Pope Benedict said before his departure…on one of his interfaith trips, that what all religions need to turn to is how it approaches and views the human person.

And in Catholicism, when we receive the sacraments, we are already in the divine life.

But it is a matter of serving God in human kind. There are no favorites. If a religion is claiming it is better than others, then there is some kind of lack of perspective, some disconnect from other people as well as the inherent coherency of its own beliefs.

It is in Christ, Who is Truth, that we find all reason and manner of living and a renewed relationship with God Himself. No other human being can provide us that except Christ Himself.
 
We went to the Madeleine in 1995, my husband invited on an offer for work there, and he said we would go there if we moved there. I remember hearing Monsignor Mannion speaking of the thousands fed there needing lunches.
 
twopekinguys said:
we cannot view them as our Christian brothers. They are NOT trinitaran. They are polytheistic. please research some of the older mormon threads
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No, they are not polytheistic I know enough of them to know that. They are siblings in Christ, although I will admit that I can understand why you would feel that way. I also will say that they may be unusual Christians, but they are still Christian. Other threads with non-Mormons belittling Mormons will not convince me otherwise. Living in NYC I have met and talked with some missionaries and while we politely agreed to differ; along with reading some Mormon literature, I am convinced they are Christians.
 
I know many nice agnostics and atheists, people of good will.

Being nice does not mean orthodoxy of faith.
 
J_the_Centrist said:
No, they are not polytheistic I know enough of them to know that. They are siblings in Christ, although I will admit that I can understand why you would feel that way. I also will say that they may be unusual Christians, but they are still Christian. Other threads with non-Mormons belittling Mormons will not convince me otherwise. Living in NYC I have met and talked with some missionaries and while we politely agreed to differ; along with reading some Mormon literature, I am convinced they are Christians.
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Can you please explain to us how they are not polytheistic? They believe in a god that was once a man, Adam was a god, they will become gods, there were gods before our God, their past prophets are gods. So how are they not? If you believe in many gods then what are you? Plenty of people on this forum were mormons at one time and would know that religion well. And as you can see, I live in Utah (for 20+ years now, an ex myself but not well educated as others). Do a little reading on their (real) beliefs then see if they are christians. Go to some of the other threads here on this forum and see what evidence has been presented.
 
kimg901 said:
Okay. But there are so many needy people in the world why would the lds store great amounts of food in Salt Lake (ive seen the warehouses) rather than send them to these needy people instead of just the local food that is donated by members?
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These mills are used for local needs or for immediate shipment when disaster strikes some where in the world. They are not for long term storage. We have other canneries and mills out side of Utah. When local needs are met food is shipped to where it is needed.
 
mtolympus said:
These mills are used for local needs or for immediate shipment when disaster strikes some where in the world. They are not for long term storage. We have other canneries and mills out side of Utah. When local needs are met food is shipped to where it is needed.
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Gotcha 👍
 
J_the_Centrist said:
No, they are not polytheistic I know enough of them to know that. They are siblings in Christ, although I will admit that I can understand why you would feel that way. I also will say that they may be unusual Christians, but they are still Christian. Other threads with non-Mormons belittling Mormons will not convince me otherwise. Living in NYC I have met and talked with some missionaries and while we politely agreed to differ; along with reading some Mormon literature, I am convinced they are Christians.
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You can be convinced all you wish.

They believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is each a god, forming a godhead. That is NOT the trinitarian view held by mainstream Christianity.

You know enough of them? lol Talk to 20, and you’ll get 19 different ideas. Read the threads.

Exposing the truth about mormonism is not belittling, no matter how much you would like it to be.

Read the thread about the Adam/God doctrine that was taught for years, and tell me they’re “Christian”.

Read about how their god was once a sinful man like us, then tell me they’re “Christian”

As far as the missionaries, all the do is give milk before meat. Read some of those threads.

How about the one on lying for the Lord?

You may have talked to mormons, and even missionaries. I have family members that left the cult once they got past all of the smoke and mirrors.

You should listen very closely to the former mormon posters on here. They are wise beyond your knowledge.

You can believe they are Christian all you want, I can believe I have a full head of hair (I’m bald by the way), but the facts will, and do show otherwise.
 
kimg901 said:
Can you please explain to us how they are not polytheistic? They believe in a god that was once a man, Adam was a god, they will become gods, there were gods before our God, their past prophets are gods. So how are they not? If you believe in many gods then what are you? Plenty of people on this forum were mormons at one time and would know that religion well. And as you can see, I live in Utah (for 20+ years now, an ex myself but not well educated as others). Do a little reading on their (real) beliefs then see if they are christians. Go to some of the other threads here on this forum and see what evidence has been presented.
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As you can tell like you I am a Catholic. I never claimed to be an expert, all I said was that I have met these people and read some of the literature I received from them. Nowhere in that literature did I see anything that you describe, now I know that’s not much to go by. I don’t understand why they see the Book of Mormon as a holy book on par with the Bible, but from what I know, I consider them Christian at least for now. You may be a former Mormon, but that also doesn’t say much. I hated Christianity not very long ago as an Agnostic, hating the faith of my birth. Your accusations are new to me and I will look into them, but at this second I consider them Christian.
 
twopekinguys said:
You can be convinced all you wish.

They believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is each a god, forming a godhead. That is NOT the trinitarian view held by mainstream Christianity.

You know enough of them? lol Talk to 20, and you’ll get 19 different ideas. Read the threads.

Exposing the truth about mormonism is not belittling, no matter how much you would like it to be.

Read the thread about the Adam/God doctrine that was taught for years, and tell me they’re “Christian”.

Read about how their god was once a sinful man like us, then tell me they’re “Christian”

As far as the missionaries, all the do is give milk before meat. Read some of those threads.

How about the one on lying for the Lord?

You may have talked to mormons, and even missionaries. I have family members that left the cult once they got past all of the smoke and mirrors.

You should listen very closely to the former mormon posters on here. They are wise beyond your knowledge.

You can believe they are Christian all you want, I can believe I have a full head of hair (I’m bald by the way), but the facts will, and do show otherwise.
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OK, you convinced me I will read the threads! I never claimed to be an expert, but I believe in Christian unity and I hate the idea of Christians alienating one another. My defense of these people was only with the best intentions, nothing more or less.
Peace be with you
 
J_the_Centrist said:
OK, you convinced me I will read the threads! I never claimed to be an expert, but I believe in Christian unity and I hate the idea of Christians alienating one another. My defense of these people was only with the best intentions, nothing more or less.
Peace be with you
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Hi J.

Thanks for your fairness. While you are reading the old threads, be sure to read thread “Question for LDS folks” where I gave an explanation of polytheism from my point of view. A few of my posts are #72, #91, and #196 which run through page 14.
 
RebeccaJ said:
Yes, I agree. I stopped donating to Deseret Industries. They are selling not giving to charity. The road home here provides resources for the homeless. What they don’t use they distribute to other organizations. Some ends back at the DI.
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Deseret Industries is a program designed to help people find employment, especially those who may have a handicap or speak little English.

When my granddaughter was a Senior in high shool she moved to Utah. When she graduated she didn’t know anyone in the new area, she had no work experience and she was very shy. Her bishop recommend her to work at DI.

Her job at DI would be for a maximum of four months. While employed there, DI trained her how to write a resume and how to interview. They taught her good work habits such as proper dress and punctuality, and of course, she received experience in retail sales.

She loves animals, so while working at DI she applied for a job at a pet store. They needed help but couldn’t afford to hire a young non-experienced person. Deseret Industries told the pet store that they would pay her salary for two months. They said OK, but they would not be able to keep her after the two months. DI payed her salary for two months while she worked at the pet store. At the end of the two months, the pet store gave her a full time job.:eek:

I thought some here might enjoy this story of how another cruel Mormon bishop, instead of giving her charity, made a sweet innocent 18 year old girl work work work.😉
 
J_the_Centrist said:
No, they are not polytheistic I know enough of them to know that.
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J -

They are polytheists, no question. The question is are they the most polytheistic religion in the world or not. Here’s a Jimmy Akin video from a call in radio show that explains a bit. Clearly there is a belief in more than one God…how many they worship is another question.

youtube.com/watch?v=Cu_hVsfhodk
 
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