How is the LDS a cult?

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twopekinguys said:
Why would I mention the name, the thread was talking about the mission president’s manual?

Why are they told that all of their finances go through the “church”, and are told not to set up accounts in their own names?

They can’t cook for themselves? They can’t mow their own lawns?

Man, I want that gig!! 🤷
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Go for it! If you will serve as a bishop for 5 years and then as a stake president for 9 years and then get called to work full time as a mission president for 3 years, let me know. I will come and mow your lawn myself!👍
 
mtolympus said:
Go for it! If you will serve as a bishop for 5 years and then as a stake president for 9 years and then get called to work full time as a mission president for 3 years, let me know. I will come and mow your lawn myself!👍
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It is a fair and just statement to say that for an LDS man who is known to have good solid leadership skills and is climbing the LDS ladder, calling wise, the burdens to both family and $$ are real.

Burn out is real for many. And I have seen many families suffer, but they consider it a sacrifice, and accept those hardships…
 
kimg901 said:
High Priest, Bishop, President = No Authority
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Plus the real reason, no belief in the Trinity as Christians know it. There are not 3 seperate gods, there are 3 in one person. Their Baptism isn’t the same as the Christian baptism.

They also believe in “baptizing the dead”, another non-Christian belief among others.

Don’t get me wrong. They are very nice people, some more Catholic than some I know. The Church could get some ideas about helping the poor by the way they do in their distribution centers. But since they tithe, their money goes to expand their faith through missionaries, temples around the world though they also help their members.

As Venerable Bishop Sheen said, no other “prophet” was foretold. Not Mohammed, Budda or Joseph Smith. “By their fruits you shall know them”, Jesus said. And polygamy that began with Joseph Smith and was furthered with Brigham Young for one example, is not what Jesus preached. But Jesus was foretold by the prophets in the Old Testament. Perhaps some of our good Mormon friends may begin there, rather than the “Book of Mormon”.
 
Marie5890 said:
It is a fair and just statement to say that for an LDS man who is known to have good solid leadership skills and is climbing the LDS ladder, calling wise, the burdens to both family and $$ are real.

Burn out is real for many. And I have seen many families suffer, but they consider it a sacrifice, and accept those hardships…
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I knew more than one who were “running for bishop”.
 
mtolympus said:
You were there at the BYU Marriot Center in February, 1993? For those who havent heard, here is what happened:
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The morning devotional was a talk by Howard W. Hunter, then President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. After the invocation and introductions, President Hunter went to the microphone and began to speak. Suddenly a voice yelled out, “Stop right there!” A man carrying a briefcase in one hand and a black object in the other rushed out of the audience and onto the stage. Declaring that he had a bomb and a detonator, he ordered everyone except President Hunter to leave.

 Most of the officials and guests quickly left the stage, but President Hunter remained, with two personal security guards who refused to leave his side. Waving the so-called detonator, which many spectators feared was a gun, the man handed a prepared statement to President Hunter and demanded that he read it. P
resident Hunter calmly but firmly refused to do so.
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 Members of the audience sat stunned momentarily. Then some broke into tears; others began moving toward the exits: and a few angrily converged toward the stage area, where they tried to get the man to surrender. A modicum of calm was restored when a few students, soon joined by the entire audience, began to sing “We Thank Thee, O God, for a Prophet.”

The reaction of the audience seemed to baffle the intruder who was soon subdued and carried away, and President Hunter went on with his talk.
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Yes I was there. It was a young woman standing right in front of me that first started the singing. She said it was someone else, but i said she’d heard another voice but i saw he mouth make the “we”.
 
mtolympus said:
Go for it! If you will serve as a bishop for 5 years and then as a stake president for 9 years and then get called to work full time as a mission president for 3 years, let me know. I will come and mow your lawn myself!👍
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Careful, you don’t know how big of a lawn I have 😛

But actually, I prefer to give my time (20+ years ) to something a little more fruitful, like being the Lay Director of RCIA for my parish.

That way I don’t need a special bank account. 😉
 
mtolympus said:
Maybe they are hoping to someday be called as a mission president so they can get a free air plane ride and won’t have to cut their own lawn.😉
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LOL. I have no idea why anyone would want to be a bishop. I also worked with a guy who grew a beard every so often just so he would never be called as bishop. 😛

When my parents were on their missions as mission president, my dad paid a local kid $10 to mow their small lawn. This was in an area of the U.S. that has extreme poverty, and a kid being able to earn a little bit was better, I think, than not.
 
it’sa not a grand conspiracy, folks.

Special bank account is what SCOTUS says the LDS church has to use for its missionaries if members supporting a missionary want a tax writeoff like for any religious contribution. No doubt some here will find that sinister, but I cannot plough the sea.
 
mtolympus said:
Maybe they are hoping to someday be called as a mission president so they can get a free air plane ride and won’t have to cut their own lawn.😉
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Let’s not forget the housekeeper, private school tuitions, and the “modest gifts”. LOL

Air fair for kids under 26 to come and visit.

Also financial aid for kids serving missions. Other families don’t get these little perks now do they?

The part I really enjoyed was the part about not setting up your own bank account, because it might cause tax problems. Of course it would cause problems. It is INCOME.

Care to address that little tid bit? It just strengthens the idea or mormonism is a cult. They are controlling every aspect of that individuals life, and most of his family’s. Not to mention lying to the IRS, and/or the taxing body of the country where the individual is located.

How above board and forthright, don’t you think?
 
RebeccaJ said:
LOL. I have no idea why anyone would want to be a bishop. I also worked with a guy who grew a beard every so often just so he would never be called as bishop. 😛
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I did that. And when i moved to low mormon areas where a beard was not enough, I took up smoking. In retrospect it was kind of like going to Niniveh.
 
RebeccaJ said:
LOL. I have no idea why anyone would want to be a bishop. I also worked with a guy who grew a beard every so often just so he would never be called as bishop. 😛
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LOL.

BYU bishops and counselors for the single wards only last 3 years tops it’s so stressful. Their families rarely see them, unless they become part of the singles ward as well.

Really hard on the families, many times with little kids.
 
Ezekiel_Stone said:
it’sa not a grand conspiracy, folks.

Special bank account is what SCOTUS says the LDS church has to use for its missionaries if members supporting a missionary want a tax writeoff like for any religious contribution. No doubt some here will find that sinister, but I cannot plough the sea.
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Do you have a reference for this? Also, SCOTUS has no affect on taxing bodies in other countries. You realize that right?
 
RebeccaJ said:
LOL. I have no idea why anyone would want to be a bishop. I also worked with a guy who grew a beard every so often just so he would never be called as bishop. 😛
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Maybe that was me 😃
RebeccaJ said:
When my parents were on their missions as mission president, my dad paid a local kid $10 to mow their small lawn. This was in an area of the U.S. that has extreme poverty, and a kid being able to earn a little bit was better, I think, than not.
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👍
 
Ezekiel_Stone said:
it’sa not a grand conspiracy, folks.

Special bank account is what SCOTUS says the LDS church has to use for its missionaries if members supporting a missionary want a tax writeoff like for any religious contribution. No doubt some here will find that sinister, but I cannot plough the sea.
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I can’t imagine tax law is uniform throughout the world.
 
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