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Blessing does not equal condoning one’s beliefs.
Blessing does not equal condoning one’s beliefs.
Then how about you find one before assuming the worst?I didn’t notice the original source, but the one you posted is also operating from a specific viewpoint. I would need an unbiased source.
Although in this day and age this might hurt his image as the Pope I think he acknowledges every human being as a child of God, even if they have gone astray. His blessing is just acknowledging that and that he is praying for their soul, not that he is agreeing with their action. Again, it is how one chooses to interpret his actions, only he knows his feelings.In the world of marketing and politics that doesn’t matter. The catholic church has vocally taken up the fight against gay rights, all while claiming to love gays and be against “unjust discrimination”. Their opposition will exploit this incident and the public will notice, and it will hurt the church’s stance on gays.
Is there an unbiased source any more? Objectivity no longer seems to be a quality towards which journalists aspire.I didn’t notice the original source, but the one you posted is also operating from a specific viewpoint. I would need an unbiased source.
Theaw is harsh, possibly too harsh, but considering the devastation wrought in Southern Africa by HIV, it might be somewhat understandable.sdgln.com/news/2012/12/14/pope-blesses-champion-uganda-kill-the-gays-bill
Here is the article. In a nutshell, the Pope has met with and given a blessing to Uganda’s Speaker Rebecca Kadaga, champion of a bill that would mandate life imprisonment or the death penalty for people convicted of the “crime” of being gay. I’m absolutely stunned, because I thought the Pope and the Catholic Church were better than that. Can someone please help me out here? Why would he do that, and what are your thoughts on it?![]()
Try to read the source article in this thread and then see if it has an agenda.It is not acceptable. But, the majority of people on this forum will rush to defend his actions at all cost. What a horrible message he sent…
Hence me thinking that the mainstream media there in the West is more anti-Catholic than the American Know-Nothing Party of the 19th century and the second Ku Klux Klan of the 20th century.What credence does the west give the Pope as it is? The people are taking their cue from a hostile media that is selective in what it reports. A good news story from the Vatican, that paints the Pope in a good light, is not going to get coverage. It’s up to us to give the good news from Rome to our neighbours by educating ourselves to what is going on.
If you asked for a blessing from the Pope, even if you didn’t believe in it or his beliefs, he will give it to you because love compels him.
:shrug:At the end of the day though it only hurts his credibility. It’s far less likely that people in the west will lend credence to what he says about homosexuality when he does things like this.
He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.sdgln.com/news/2012/12/14/pope-blesses-champion-uganda-kill-the-gays-bill
Here is the article. In a nutshell, the Pope has met with and given a blessing to Uganda’s Speaker Rebecca Kadaga, champion of a bill that would mandate life imprisonment or the death penalty for people convicted of the “crime” of being gay. I’m absolutely stunned, because I thought the Pope and the Catholic Church were better than that. Can someone please help me out here? Why would he do that, and what are your thoughts on it?![]()
Or, a very bad exaggeration made to demonize the Pope. Either way, the reactions from this article are far from pleasant.The story in the op is probably a lie.
If I recall correctly, the Pope did say something against this proposed bill.I see no reason why BXVI should not bless anyone who wants his blessing.
But this posting did make me wonder if he has spoken out against the Ugandan proposal? IC that he would not want to get involved in politics of various nations, but it seems to me that a public statement condemning the proposal might be appropriate.
From Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_BillIf I recall correctly, the Pope did say something against this proposed bill.
I don’t disagree with the meeting, world leaders meet with people all the time and when the Pope meets people he blesses them. That’s just what he does. I continue to hope that those blessings bear fruit.From Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Bill
Uganda’s Catholic Archbishop of Kampala Cyprian Lwanga stated in December 2009 that the bill was unnecessary and “at odds with the core values” of Christianity, expressing particular concerns at the death penalty provisions. Lwanga argued that instead homosexuals should be encouraged to seek rehabilitation.[71] For its part, the Holy See has maintained excellent relations with Uganda, with Pope Benedict XVI receiving the Ugandan ambassador in December 2009 and commending the climate of freedom and respect in the country towards the Catholic Church. During this meeting, there was no mention of the anti-homosexuality bill.[72] However, three days earlier the Vatican legal attaché to the United Nations stated that “Pope Benedict is opposed to ‘unjust discrimination’ against gay men and lesbians”.[73]
I could not find anything more recent. Students and faculty at Yale Divinity, and at Fordham are petitioning the Pope to make a strong public statement.
QuestionIt is not acceptable. But, the majority of people on this forum will rush to defend his actions at all cost. What a horrible message he sent…
So that means it’s ok for the state to execute all gay people? That’s what the bill says and that’s the basis for the discussion here. Should the Pope be blessing a person who advocates such a policy?Question
Are the acts of homosexuality one of life or death according to the word of God?
According to the word of God homosexuality is not acceptable. Its a mortal sin that will send you to hell.
You do know homosexuality acts are a mortal sin? If you live like this its not man you need fear its the judgement from Jesus Christ himself. Make no mistake about it…Jesus is not politically correct.So that means it’s ok for the state to execute all gay people? That’s what the bill says and that’s the basis for the discussion here. Should the Pope be blessing a person who advocates such a policy?
As I said above, I don’t disagree with the blessing but I would like to see a stronger statement from the Pope on that bill.