Please explain further how Wikipedia establishes or detracts from anything, namely credentials or lack thereof. It’s basically a public bulletin board, that may be truthful or may not. It may include something, or it may not. What’s the point? Is truth up for a vote, or at the whim of someone who posts on Wikipedia?
When I did a search for anything written by Goldstein, the only sites I found (apart from that one Wiki entry) were antisemitic Traditionalist Catholic websites.
Are you saying that Mr. Goldstein is lying?
I have read the documents of both Councils of Nicea (the first was in 325 AD and the second was in 787 AD); neither Council made any mention of the Jews in any context whatsoever. The subject of the First Council of Nicea was the Divinity of Christ - it produced the Nicene Creed. The subject of the Second Council of Nicea was the proper place of images in worship.
Goldstein has been dead for many years (not sure if you even realized that). He was probably saying what would make his new Catholic masters happy. I’m sure if he lived post-V2, his tune would have been more in line with the modern church’s way of seeing things.
Any reputable historical work on the history of Jews and the church should show you that everything I posted is true.These are a lot of accusations. Do you have documentation? Also, just glancing through, are they all completely unreasonable? Just an example:
Secondly, with regard to documentation, do you have anything to support this accusation?
- Jews also have a law that they can’t marry outside their religion, so what’s the big deal?
- Sex outside of marriage goes against both our moral codes, so again, what’s the big deal?
- I have worked with many Jews - they don’t eat with us, or hang around while we’re eating, because Gentile eating habits make them feel physically ill. Perhaps the third precept was for the comfort of the Jews, and not to ostracize them?
I have read the documents of both Councils of Nicea (the first was in 325 AD and the second was in 787 AD); neither Council made any mention of the Jews in any context whatsoever. The subject of the First Council of Nicea was the Divinity of Christ - it produced the Nicene Creed. The subject of the Second Council of Nicea was the proper place of images in worship.
You come across with a lot of anger. You seem to go back in history and try to dredge up every perceived wrong (which often, but not always are small things or misunderstandings, including false claims), and take them personally. Have you thought about anger counseling? Why borrow trouble?
Actually, one brief glance through The Sources of Catholic Dogma to review both of the Councils of Nicea has already shown that one of your accusations is false - there was no mention whatsoever of the Jews at either Council - certainly no commandment to clergy to avoid the company of Jews - and if I had the kind of time to go through each and every one of these accusations (which I don’t) I suspect I’d find other instances of stuff made up out of thin air, as well.
What do you think of the many requirements for Jews to wear cloth patches so people could single them out?
Don’t change the subject - I haven’t gotten to that one, yet.
The first body of believers to Christianity were all Jews including the founder Jesus Christ himself. These Jews I am sure practiced Judaism much more than today’s Jews, including Paul himself who was a zealot for the Jewish law and faith., to which they had the temple present. So it is not something new for a Jew to convert to Catholicism. Who comes to the revelation and understanding of the law being fulfilled in Jesus Christ, as did the first century Jews, with the temple present.
And because he is dead, his writings are invalid (and yes, I did know this, thank you).
Same goes for Catholics. I still have gotten over that Jews collaborated with terrorist Muslims in Spain and North Africa, nor that Anathema at Jamnia that we be erased from the book of the living - as a formalized PRAYER in Jewish liturgy.
I’ll say. I’m amazed at how many people risked their lives for Jews, inspite of it all.
The Spanish Inquisition was not about impossing religion on anyone. It was about not allowing people to lie about what religion they really were. If it was found out that you lied about your religion, saying you were Catholic when in fact you were not, then they expelled you from the Country and the government seized your assets. They were kicking people out, not forcing them to be Catholic. There is a big difference.
I will research further to determine the original source of the information.
You said 'we" when referring to the anathema against minim (heretics) in Judaism.
I’ve seen Marty Barrack’s website, as I have the other Jewish apostates. Most of them knew next to nothing about Judaism before they converted out, often even by their own admission.
Here is what actually happened:
Cardinal O’Conner is apologizing for harm done to Jews by members of the Catholic Church over the 2,000 years of her history. It says nothing about the Inquisition. It also answers your OP.
" * ...Our Holy Father, Pope John Paul II, has asked all Christians to enter this new millennium in the spirit of Jubilee. Part of the process of Jubilee is a call for **teshuva, or repentance**. Ash Wednesday, March 8th, has been specially set aside as a day for **Catholics to reflect upon the pain inflicted on the Jewish people by many of our new members over the last millennium. We most sincerely want to start a new era.**
I pray that as you begin a new decade, and as we begin another millennium in our Jewish-Christian relationship, we will refresh our encounter with a new respect and even love for one another as children of G-d. Working in our own ways, but also working together, let us both remain committed to the fulfillment of G-d's reign. I **ask this Yom Kipper that you understand my own abject sorrow for any member of the Catholic Church, high or low, including myself, who may have harmed you or your forebears in any way./**I]"*