How many non-Catholics here, have read the Imitation of Christ by Thomas à Kempis?

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OTCA:

You have tried to have SOME Protestants read it. If I gauged all of the Catholic Church by SOME Catholics I know, I would think that birth control is optional. This is the problem you have with overgeneralizing, OTCA - it tries to (falsely) pigeonhole everyone and ends up making a liar out of you.

Perhaps you need to remember words from Imitation of Christ:
Happy is he to whom truth manifests itself, not in signs and words that fade, but as it actually is. Our opinions, our senses often deceive us and we discern very little.
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What good is much discussion of involved and obscure matters when our ignorance of them will not be held against us on Judgment Day? Neglect of things which are profitable and necessary and undue concern with those which are irrelevant and harmful, are great folly.
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We have eyes and do not see.
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What, therefore, have we to do with questions of philosophy? He to whom the Eternal Word speaks is free from theorizing. For from this Word are all things and of Him all things speak – the Beginning Who also speaks to us. Without this Word no man understands or judges aright. He to whom it becomes everything, who traces all things to it and who sees all things in it, may ease his heart and remain at peace with God.
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O God, You Who are the truth, make me one with You in love everlasting. I am often wearied by the many things I hear and read, but in You is all that I long for. Let the learned be still, let all creatures be silent before You; You alone speak to me. - The Third Chapter
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The short answer would be the words of Christ: I am the way, the truth, and the light. Christ is truth.
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O.S.

I agree with that you are saying but I just couldn’t pass up the opportunity of correcting someone that went through seminary 😛
"Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life."John 14:6
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Anyways on to what I was wondering: In general do you guys think that Protestants read more Catholic material or do you guys think it is the other way around and it is Catholics who read more Protestant material?

God bless
 
O.S.Luke said:
OTCA:

You have tried to have SOME Protestants read it. If I gauged all of the Catholic Church by SOME Catholics I know, I would think that birth control is optional. This is the problem you have with overgeneralizing, OTCA - it tries to (falsely) pigeonhole everyone and ends up making a liar out of you.

Perhaps you need to remember words from Imitation of Christ:

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Excuse me? A liar? :mad: I am afraid not my friend. I told you about these Protestants who hate the Catholic church and what it stands for. Like you don’t seem to know what I am talking about…DO NOT CALL OTHERS NAMES, Don’t Protestants have a way of being charitable, or is that asking too much?
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
Excuse me? A liar? :mad: I am afraid not my friend. I told you about these Protestants who hate the Catholic church and what it stands for. Like you don’t seem to know what I am talking about…DO NOT CALL OTHERS NAMES, Don’t Protestants have a way of being charitable, or is that asking too much?
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Yes, a liar. You have included all Protestants several times in your blanket statements, even though several here have tried to correct you. An untruth is a lie, is it not?

DON’T LUMP US ALL INTO THE SAME CATEGORY.

And charity, OTCA, runs both ways.
 
O.S.Luke said:
Yes, a liar. You have included all Protestants several times in your blanket statements, even though several here have tried to correct you. An untruth is a lie, is it not?

DON’T LUMP US ALL INTO THE SAME CATEGORY.

And charity, OTCA, runs both ways.
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You will ask forgiveness from God for calling me a liar when I speak the truth.
 
Roman_Catholic said:
I agree with that you are saying but I just couldn’t pass up the opportunity of correcting someone that went through seminary
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I stand corrected. I tried to do this while I was between hospital visits, and that was a mistake.
Anyways on to what I was wondering: In general do you guys think that Protestants read more Catholic material or do you guys think it is the other way around and it is Catholics who read more Protestant material?
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I avoid generalizations because I find that I am nearly always wrong when I make them. My studies centered on Patristics and sacramental theology, so I necessarily studied the ECF’s and liturgical theologians like Bouyer and Schillebeeckx.
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
You will ask forgiveness from God for calling me a liar when I speak the truth.
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Sorry, you lumped all Protestants into the same category. That was not the truth.

If you don’t like the word liar, fine. I’ll just say that you’re just not very good at representing the truth.

I ask forgiveness from God everyday.
 
I stand corrected. I tried to do this while I was between hospital visits, and that was a mistake.
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Fair enough. It was probably immature of me, but like I said I just couldn’t pass it up 😉
I avoid generalizations because I find that I am nearly always wrong when I make them. My studies centered on Patristics and sacramental theology, so I necessarily studied the ECF’s and liturgical theologians like Bouyer and Schillebeeckx.
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Yea I can see where generalizations lead. I even added the phrase, “in general” into my question 😦

I only asked because I thought it kind of went with the topic and it was something that perked my curiosity.

God bless
 
Wow, a simple thread once again filled with warring Christians mocking each other and calling each other liars. I just love it when a poster calls someone a liar and blasts them with nasty venom and then it says at the bottom by their signature “pax vobiscum” classic!

I’ll do something crazy and different here and answer the OP question: Yes, I’ve read “Imitation of Christ” a few times, loved it, and think it’s truly inspirational.

I have also read the book “Imitation of Mary” that is much lesser known and more obscure. The author is full of insight and I just LOVE that book. It’s written in much the same style and, I feel, a real blessing. I read it more that “Imitation of Christ” actually. I found a copy in my local RCC bookstore. Blessings.
 
There should be a special word for people who know better but who persist in mischaracterization for the sake of polemics.

“Hack” is just too generic.
 
Steadfast said:
There should be a special word for people who know better but who persist in mischaracterization for the sake of polemics.

“Hack” is just too generic.
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Can you please explain, how so? Please try to do so, in a way that does not show your bias against Catholic posters and the Catholic Church.

The question here is:

How many non-Catholics here, have read the Imitation of Christ by Thomas à Kempis?

I thought that this was a nice thread topic, do you disagree?

Thanks
 
Catechism of the Catholic Church
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386 Sin is present in human history; any attempt to ignore it or to give this dark reality other names would be futile. To try to understand what sin is, one must first recognize the profound relation of man to God, for only in this relationship is the evil of sin unmasked in its true identity as humanity’s rejection of God and opposition to him, even as it continues to weigh heavy on human life and history.
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grampben said:
What a horrible comment.
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Where do you find the “horribleness” of this post? Itis true. This woman told me so as she is a Protestant. She refuses to read ANYTHING Catholic for fear it will all make sense to her.
To be deep in history, is to cease to be Protestant.
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
Where do you find the “horribleness” of this post? Itis true. This woman told me so as she is a Protestant. She refuses to read ANYTHING Catholic for fear it will all make sense to her.
To be deep in history, is to cease to be Protestant.
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You made a total generalisations that protestants wouldn’t read a catholic book.
Your rhetoric is cute, but it is also an illusion.
 
I learned about St. Thomas a Kempis when I was in middle school–I chose to do a project on him. I had no clue who he was, but I researched him and wrote why he was important. I remember talking about his book, Imitation of Christ, and several years later when I wanted to learn about Catholic teachings, I bought it. I was very impressed with what I read, as I had never read the fathers before. I was Protestant at the time (baptized Catholic, but not raised as such) and pretty anti-Catholic just before that (I had just started high school). I passed it on to another friend, but never got it back. I really enjoyed the book…

Prayers and petitions,
Alexius:cool:
 
grampben said:
You made a total generalisations that protestants wouldn’t read a catholic book.
Your rhetoric is cute, but it is also an illusion.
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Sorry, but you may not be in contact with many Protestants…
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
Sorry, but you may not be in contact with many Protestants…
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LOL! I am one, I meet in fellowship with protestants every sunday.
Give me proof that protestants wouldn’t read a catholic book. If it’s only anecdotal, it’s not evidence. If that is the case, withdraw your statement.
 
Jimmy_B said:
Can you please explain, how so? Please try to do so, in a way that does not show your bias against Catholic posters and the Catholic Church.

The question here is:

How many non-Catholics here, have read the Imitation of Christ by Thomas à Kempis?

I thought that this was a nice thread topic, do you disagree?

Thanks
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Steadfast listed him/herself as Catholic. All I see is him saying in his post is that people should not generalize, which is most likely referring to OTCA’s post, which has been the dominant topic in this thread. Why then did you write this line “Please try to do so, in a way that does not show your bias against Catholic posters and the Catholic Church.”?
Where is he showing bias against Catholics/Catholic Church?
 
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