How many non-Catholics here, have read the Imitation of Christ by Thomas à Kempis?

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What truly amuses me, is that this section of the forum is set up for non-Catholics and all there is here are Catholics saying mostly rude things to non-Roman Catholics and asking us why we do or don’t believe X. Most of the information is faulty. I have read Imitation of Christ twice. I don’t consider it to be a Roman Catholic book. I read the same saints and theologians as most Catholics do, though my reading may be broader.

The assumption here is that the original church was Roman. I agree that over the centuries it became the RCC, but I don’t think it was originally. Most non-RCC think of the original church as the universal church to which they adhere to, not what later became the RCC. Non-RCC and Protestants would mostly argue that the RCC went astray from the universal church, and they thus retain their adherence to the real church, universal and catholic.

The point is, there is little argument about all this among most people. It is only a few who find it somehow important to be “first” or the “real” church. I think we were taught that humility was a virtue, and lauding it over others in some attempt to be “better” was not what Jesus had in mind.

It would be nice to be spared this incessant clamour about “do RCC worship Mary,” and the “real presence.” These are RCC issues, and not ours. We try to refrain from defining mystery. The real presence is such we believe. How it is, we leave to God. I fully agree that RCC do not worship Mary, and Marian devotions are practiced by many who are not RCC. Of course, like anything, some can take matters too far, and undoubtedly some have, but for most, I suspect it is but a devotion to Jesus’ mother who we could all emulate and not go wrong.
 
grampben said:
LOL! I am one, I meet in fellowship with protestants every sunday.
Give me proof that protestants wouldn’t read a catholic book. If it’s only anecdotal, it’s not evidence. If that is the case, withdraw your statement.
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The proof is in how these Protestants behave. Three in my coffee club (we meet every other day for coffee), have stated they refuse to read anything Catholic. Do you, as a Protestant read the lives of the Saints, or the Eucharist, or the Catholic’s bible? (Although you wouldn’t even have a bible if it weren’t for the Catholic church)? You wouldn’t read it because you don’t believe it…would you pray the Rosary?
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
The proof is in how these Protestants behave. Three in my coffee club (we meet every other day for coffee), have stated they refuse to read anything Catholic. Do you, as a Protestant read the lives of the Saints, or the Eucharist, or the Catholic’s bible? (Although you wouldn’t even have a bible if it weren’t for the Catholic church)? You wouldn’t read it because you don’t believe it…would you pray the Rosary?
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Hey.

I am very interested in the life of Augustine. I read some St Francis of Assisi, and my personal favourite, the life of St Patrick.
As I have said on another thread, I don’t have a problem with the apocrypha (or duerto-canonicals) as books either, and occasionally refer to the Douay Rheims translation).
I don’t pray the rosary, as I’m still thinking (and praying) about intercession to the saints. I (try to) observe lent and love the stations of the cross.

Have you read any protestant books?

God Bless.
 
grampben said:
Hey.

I am very interested in the life of Augustine. I read some St Francis of Assisi, and my personal favourite, the life of St Patrick.
As I have said on another thread, I don’t have a problem with the apocrypha (or duerto-canonicals) as books either, and occasionally refer to the Douay Rheims translation).
I don’t pray the rosary, as I’m still thinking (and praying) about intercession to the saints. I (try to) observe lent and love the stations of the cross.

Have you read any protestant books?

God Bless.
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No, of course not…If I know my faith is from Christ, that He Himself established the Catholic church, why then would I read otherwise? I only read the books that have the Imprimatur because I know they are free from any error.
Protestanism is NOT from Christ.
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
No, of course not…If I know my faith is from Christ, that He Himself established the Catholic church, why then would I read otherwise? I only read the books that have the Imprimatur because I know they are free from any error.
Protestanism is NOT from Christ.
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Alright.

God bless you.
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
Do you not agree that the first 1500 years the world was Catholic??
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Yeah, and the church was in need of reform.

But the discussion ends here, I’m tired and everything I say to you leads to something else and to be honest, I’m sick of it.
 
It’s kind of discouraging to read some comments as they do too much attacking and not enough dialoguing. I added my earlier comment to try to ease the thread as many have done and it seems to do nothing to stem the tide of mistreatment of Protestants. Again, I was a OSAS evangelical in middle school when I learned about a Kempis and many fathers at an evangelical school. My teacher made us do a project on one of the fathers and I chose a Kempis. There are many, non-Catholic and Catholic, who have no idea of a Kempis. It would just be nice to keep the dialogue there and not attack Protestants for not being Catholic. I say this with the utmost respect and humility for those here (most of whom are well beyond my years and knowledge).

Prayers and petitions,
Alexius:cool:
 
grampben said:
Yeah, and the church was in need of reform.

But the discussion ends here, I’m tired and everything I say to you leads to something else and to be honest, I’m sick of it.
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That’s the problem. As soon as one mentions anything that has to do with history, Protestants always end the discussion here…And as far as the church needing reform, who says that Luther was correct, except himself? Christ established the Catholic church before any “reformers” come into play, now what?
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
That’s the problem. As soon as one mentions anything that has to do with history, Protestants always end the discussion here…And as far as the church needing reform, who says that Luther was correct, except himself? Christ established the Catholic church before any “reformers” come into play, now what?
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Whatever you say.
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
Is that all you can say in defense of your church?
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I’m sick and tired of this constant bashing. It’s never one thing is it?
No it’s more and more. Why should I answer any question of yours when I know it will only lead to another?
No, this ends now.
 
grampben said:
I’m sick and tired of this constant bashing. It’s never one thing is it?
No it’s more and more. Why should I answer any question of yours when I know it will only lead to another?
No, this ends now.
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Where may I ask is the bashing? Show me where I bashed you and do not dance around it.
 
Please stay on topic or the thread will be closed.

God bless-

Rachel
 
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The question here is -

“How many non-Catholics here, have read the Imitation of Christ by Thomas à Kempis?”

That’s it…nothing anti-Protestant here.

This is one of my most, well intended threads.

The writings of Thomas à Kempis, in the book**, Imitation of Christ, **are a beautiful reflection of the Gospels and something that would benefit all Christians.

That is why I posted this question here, to bring attention to this important work by Thomas à Kempis.

For those, who haven’t read it yet, please go to the on-line, book link provided here and read a couple pages and you will see that there is no need to argue.

I believe that most Christians can agree with most of what Thomas Kempis wrote and I haven’t read many other things, which are a better reflection of the Scripture or a better example of what it truly means to follow Christ.

Some here believe that, “If we would only ”believe” in Jesus that we will be Saved". Well, this book describes what it means to believe in Jesus.
Imitation of Christ

Author: Thomas a Kempis (c. 1380-1471)

Description: For five hundred years, this gentle book, filled with the spirit of the love of God, has brought understanding and comfort to millions of readers in over fifty languages, and provided them with a source of heart-felt personal prayer. These meditations on the life and teachings of Jesus, written in times even more troubled and dangerous than our own, have become second only to the Bible as a guide and inspiration.

It is now available in a MODERN TRANSLATION that retains the flavor of the original English translation.
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May God bless you all.

Peace
 
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