How many of you like Dawkins

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Birdstrike said:
Let’s be clear - it is NOT Christian to hate, even Rev. Dawkins. Indeed, we are commanded to pray for him. In the end, we have no idea what is going on in his head, and why he does the things that he does.

But he is a mouthpiece for an extremely dangerous agenda, which seeks to destroy the very foundations of Western Civilization. The criticisms of him are correct - he spreads lies and hate-propaganda, and he is an embarrassment to genuine science.
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Secularism is not dangerous and hardly a destructive force for civilization. Hyperbole is not an argument either. Comments like “he is an embarrassment” are libelous. Just how much science do you know? Seriously, do you really believe that a world renowned university, in a sovereign nation with an established state religion, would create an academic Chair then place an embarrassment in it? Oh, please. Employ some critical thinking.

You intend offense and condescension when you refer to Professor Dawkins as Rev. He is not clergy and has never said he was. Do you really consider it noble to turn a title of honor into one of contempt? I wonder how those who have earned the title of Reverend would feel about the way you choose to use it what is implied in that use?
 
MzAnn:

I taught science for years.

I’m also a former politician, and I know a thing or two about money, and how a second or third tier evolutionist can be “elevated” if there is an agenda behind it. You’re very naive in both of these areas.

Regarding your attempts to manufacture “indignities” against Rev. Dawkins and yourself, lighten up. This isn’t your first day in the internet I can tell!
 
MzAnn:

“If everyone in the world - you, me, even the Jews - EVERYONE, agreed that what the Nazis did in WWII was moral, would it be moral?”
 
BacaRanch said:
I would suggest that Human Rights are recognized and protected through law. However, Human Rights are based upon intrinsic gifts from God that mandates our recognition of Human Dignity. We are made in the image and likeness of God, which is a gift, and consequently mandates that Human Dignity should be recognized and protect through the law under the heading of Human Rights. The law is a vehicle by which we protect many of our God given rights, including Human Rights.
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Sorry, rights are human inventions and human concepts. You and I quite clearly will not see eye to eye on this. Witnessing, although well intentioned, won’t turn me either.

Please understand up front, I was born, baptised, and educated Catholic. I was a full member of the Church and gladly gave much time and talent to it. I am not ignorant of the dogma. I just no longer accept it nor practice it, nor ascribe it any authority.

I have things to do, so I must go. I’ll be checking back in later.
 
Birdstrike said:
MzAnn:

I taught science for years.

I’m also a former politician, and I know a thing or two about money, and how a second or third tier evolutionist can be “elevated” if there is an agenda behind it. You’re very naive in both of these areas.

Regarding your attempts to manufacture “indignities” against Rev. Dawkins and yourself, lighten up. This isn’t your first day in the internet I can tell!
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Arguemtum ad authoritatum. Anyone can be anything they like on the internet. What you may or may not have done in your private life is non sequitur. I find your arguments strewn with fallacy, hyperbole, and uninformed. You display zero credible understanding of Evolution. Despite what might thrill you to believe, I am not taking anything you say personally. And, you might find value in taking your own advice. I’m not the knee jerk reactionary in this discussion.

Biss spater.
 
MzAnnThrope said:
Information can be found here.

Religion in Nazi Germany

Religion in Nazi Germany
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Wikipedia isn’t a reliable source, but if you are going to link to it you should read the links before you post them. :rolleyes:
“…Hitler no longer received any of the sacraments after he had left the Austrian family home many years before the First World War.”

Hitler was a Christian who had abandoned Christianity, just as Dawkins is a Christian, who has abandoned Christianity.

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St. Maximilian Kolbe - Ora pro nobis.
 
TongueTied said:
Hitler, as was said earlier, was raised a catholic in Austria. He never ever denied that, nor did he change it throughout his life.
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Except for his abandoning the Catholic faith prior to the first world war, you are correct.
TongueTied said:
The belt buckles of the SS and the Wehrmacht bore clearly religios (in this case even christian) mottos. In more than one speech (public as well in his table speeches) he clearly stated that he saw the planned extinction of the Jews, and homosexuals as the will of god (of which we can presume he thaught as the catholic god, based on his personal background). Furthermore, pope Pius (I tend to forget,which number goes with this specific Pius) and the catholic church in Germany not only turned a blind eye to what Hitler and the Nazis did, no, they even FUNDED this party!

Thinking on the other hand of the atrocities the catholic and protestanic church commited over the last 10 centuries, I am only and honestly relieved that they had not the technology and means of the 20th century at their beck and call (but even lacking that, they managed to “purge” an estimated 10-20 millions heretics, witches, scientists and members of other religions). I will never forget the words of the papal legat before the battle of Beziérs (a town of heretics): “Kill them all - GOD will know, who’s with him!”
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10-20 million? Got a legitimate source for these numbers and the quotes?
 
Have you noticed that every single argument these atheists have made has simply blown away? Yet, they don’t seem to take responsibility for getting something wrong - it’s brushed off, and some other misconception is thrown out.

Yet they’ll spend alot of time attempting to LOOK smart - indeed, you can recognize an atheist organization in just this way: “Brights”, “Freethinkers”, “Rationalists”, etc.

In truth, atheism is about as dogmatic and anti-intellectual as it gets - but they don’t realize it.
 
Oh, and regarding the Inquisition, wasn’t it a few thousand tops? And the Salem witch trials - that was no more than 20, if I remember right. . .

But they still dodge the fact that genocide is inconsistent with Christianity no matter how one slices it. Unfortunately, it is CONSISTENT with an atheistic worldview.
 
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