How many Protestant apologetic books have you read?

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I started once, but I got tired of being called a “Papist,” “Romanist” and I think Catholicism was even called a cult or something…very offensive apologetics.
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**Bingo! That’s the reason why I don’t pay much mind to protestant literature. I just can’t stomach that. On top of that, they start abbreviating lines of scripture taking them completely out of context. Then I have to go back to the Bible and check each reference and read the entire preceding and proceding lines. It becomes exhausting. And then finally to get to the conclusion that they took it out of context and inserted that abbreviation to trick me.:banghead: **
 
Well Barbara,

I have the same story but the very opposite!

I was raised Southern Baptist.

Got into the apolegetic webites, books, tapes…

I was carrying around those Chick flicks to go out and evangalize.

I became very anti Catholic

and in the process God changed my life.

A baptist preacher once told us if we could experience hell, just once for a micro second, our lives would completly change.

Well I experienced that hell. Not the firey pit of hell that the damned go for eternity, but after being raised in a good christian home, with christian values and knowing and loving Chirst, I experienced a seperation from God, and for that was my hell.

After being on both sides of the apologetic debate I knew I had to go through the RCIA and become a Catholic.

Im just recieved in the mail, my certificate and to my wonderful surprise the Church mention the church I was baptised in on their official document, a “baptist church”.

There are many good protestant churches out there, and I believe you feel apart of that community and I am glad that you are happy in your faith with Jesus Christ, but so are we.
 
Barb - where are you? Will you respond? I’ve read some very good responses but nothing else from you.
 
Little Mary:
Barb - where are you? Will you respond? I’ve read some very good responses but nothing else from you.
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I wondered where she had gone also, but maybe she can only respond in the early evening. That is when she wrote her OP
 
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Possible. She is on right now and reading other threads, at lease according to her profile…interesting to see if she responds… 😉
 
Hey if BarbG wants to know some Catholic converts who have read Protestant theology, take a look at Steve Ray or Dave Armstrong’s books. Just about all the books in their personal libraries are Protestant or evangelical books. But I guess they missed the “really good arguments” in those books that would have kept them from becoming Catholic.

OK Barb, you have your lists. Now which of those books or arguments do you think is really compelling from the Protestant side? And please list a few you’ve read. Don’t be intimidated, we don’t bite. OK maybe a little. 👋

Phil P
 
C.S Lewis is my favorite as a former Episcopalian. Billy Graham is great and his website and information is good. BUT, as a cradle Episcopalian I spent too much time searching for the truth and listening to people with other agendas. After a year of study, my family is becoming Catholic. I have wasted enough time on authors Protesting the truth (teaching half truths.).
 
Hi BarbaraG,

My husband ran the bookstore at the Christian Research Institute for several years so I’ve read lots of Protestant apologetic books. Just wanted to say hi and welcome to the Forum. 👋

God bless!

Cindy
 
Hello:)

In answer to your question, I have never read nor do I have any interest in reading about Protestants. Why would I with all the confustion and misinformation?

There are thousands of the most amazing Catholic books and I’m usually reading 5 at a time. I am transfixed with the gloriousness of the Catholic Religion. I feel Christs extraordinary love for me when I read these great, positive books.

I do hope you learn more about the Catholic Church and allow your heart to lead you home.:yup:

"Jesus chooses people not for who they are, but for what they can become.":blessyou:
 
I have learnt to defend my catholicism at several websites which are always keen to bait the few RCCs on site.

The viciousness of some posters is a real eye opener. On the strength of the savagery of attacks I do NOT read any anticatholic propaganda.
 
I don’t know where the original poster has gone. She hasn’t responded to her own thread.
 
A few minutes ago her profile said she was responding to this thread.
Now she is offline again without posting.

Looks like a hit and run folks.
 
I’m the one who first posted this thread and didn’t think that anyone would want me to respond, but I will because I think some people expressed an interest in this.
I originally posted this because there is an in-built reluctance on the part of all of us NOT to question our beliefs. I just wanted people to listen to both sides and let God work on their hearts.
Just because some author attempts to rebut Catholic beliefs, doesn’t make them mean spirited. Most of you are Anti-Protestant in that you deny the various SOLAS of the Reformation, justification by faith alone, etc. You are honestly against these dogmas and in that sense are anti-Protestant. Do I think that you’re a horrible person, no. Too many people on each side confuse being against certain beliefs with a person who is ready to light the fires and burn the heretic.
James White is generally disliked on this forum and it is through his forum that I found out about this Catholic Answers one. I never met the man, and might not like to have him as a husband (he doesn’t like Italian food - I’m Polish, but cook Italian) but I agree with most of what he says theologically. I only ask that in the future people criticize his specific assertions on dogma, not on his personality. You may say that White or other Protestants make personal attacks so why can’t we. Well, I think that Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, whatever, should just debate dogma, no game playing, “just the facts.”
Anyway, I thought I’d provide a list of Protestant apolgetic books that I found interesting. They are no more mean-spirited than a Catholic book by Scott Hahn, etc.
The best for me was Holy Scripture: The Ground and Pillar of our Faith. Vol I is a Biblical defense of Sola Scripture, Vol. 2, (the BEST) An Historical Defense of the Reformation Principle of Sola Scriptura, and Vol 3, The writings of the Church Fathers Affirming the principle of Sola Scriptura. Pages 439 to 446 contains a patristic exegesis of the Rock of Matthew 16:18. Peter was not necessarily thought of as the Rock, for many Fathers it was Christ, or our faith, etc.
A couple of other books by Eric Svendsen are Evangelical Answers and Who is My Mother? on the role and status of Mary in the New testament and Catholicism.
I don’t plan on being a regular poster on this or any Forum, Cath. or Prot., but I just wanted those who might be interested to read other works. I am conservative politically, but sometimes read articles written by liberals just to broaden my knowledge and to discern if the opposition is seeing something that I’m not.
Solus Christus, Soli Deo Gloria
 
Thank you for proving me wrong Barbara!

I think the best way to read the Early Fathers is to just read all their writings without someone proof texting them.
When I read their writings I get the 100 percent impression these guys were definitely NOT sola scriptura guys…and were ardent supporters of Sacred Tradition.

Thank you for your response.
 
Asking a queston on this board and not intending to answer the responses to that question, is sort of like walking into someone’s home asking them a question and then leaving before they can respond. You can see why this would be rude.

As far as our rudeness toward James WHite. Yes, there have been some posters who have been uncharitable to him, but James White is also very guilty of twisting the quotes about him. He also does not include the positive things that were said about him. This is strange. He is too intelligent and mature a person to make such a mistake. Sadly, it seems as though he is purposely being misleading. It is also strange that you are the second person who came here specifically to defend a grown man and yet, who, doesn’t want to discuss any of their beliefs.

YOu have made no comment on the wide variety of Protestant apologetics that several people on this site have mentioned reading. That was the original subject that you posted.

I should point out that in order to be anti Protestant, I would have to see Protestants as nonChristians. I do not do so. I believe that you are a Christian and I have known many good Protestant Christians who have influenced my beliefs.

Now if you want to start a thread on Italian food-I am there.👍

By the way, James White does not believe in Sola Sciptura.

bringyou.to/apolonio/truth.htm

This was posted on another thread. Write the word truth in the little white box and hit the word truth. What will come up is a very short segment of video from a James WHite debate. He admits that he doesn’t believe in SOla Sciptura
 
My background is kinda loud, but I think he simply said the Apostles didn’t practice sola scriptura.
 
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My background is kinda loud, but I think he simply said the Apostles didn’t practice sola scriptura.
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I’ll relisten. When your in a house with four kids running excitedly around, it is easy to mishear.

YOu are correct he is talking about the apostles. Darn, How did I miss that?
 
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BarbaraG:
I’m the one who first posted this thread and didn’t think that anyone would want me to respond, but I will because I think some people expressed an interest in this.
I originally posted this because there is an in-built reluctance on the part of all of us NOT to question our beliefs. I just wanted people to listen to both sides and let God work on their hearts.
Just because some author attempts to rebut Catholic beliefs, doesn’t make them mean spirited. Most of you are Anti-Protestant in that you deny the various SOLAS of the Reformation, justification by faith alone, etc. You are honestly against these dogmas and in that sense are anti-Protestant. Do I think that you’re a horrible person, no. Too many people on each side confuse being against certain beliefs with a person who is ready to light the fires and burn the heretic.
James White is generally disliked on this forum and it is through his forum that I found out about this Catholic Answers one. I never met the man, and might not like to have him as a husband (he doesn’t like Italian food - I’m Polish, but cook Italian) but I agree with most of what he says theologically. I only ask that in the future people criticize his specific assertions on dogma, not on his personality. You may say that White or other Protestants make personal attacks so why can’t we. Well, I think that Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, whatever, should just debate dogma, no game playing, “just the facts.”
Anyway, I thought I’d provide a list of Protestant apolgetic books that I found interesting. They are no more mean-spirited than a Catholic book by Scott Hahn, etc.
The best for me was Holy Scripture: The Ground and Pillar of our Faith. Vol I is a Biblical defense of Sola Scripture, Vol. 2, (the BEST) An Historical Defense of the Reformation Principle of Sola Scriptura, and Vol 3, The writings of the Church Fathers Affirming the principle of Sola Scriptura. Pages 439 to 446 contains a patristic exegesis of the Rock of Matthew 16:18. Peter was not necessarily thought of as the Rock, for many Fathers it was Christ, or our faith, etc.
A couple of other books by Eric Svendsen are Evangelical Answers and Who is My Mother? on the role and status of Mary in the New testament and Catholicism.
I don’t plan on being a regular poster on this or any Forum, Cath. or Prot., but I just wanted those who might be interested to read other works. I am conservative politically, but sometimes read articles written by liberals just to broaden my knowledge and to discern if the opposition is seeing something that I’m not.
Solus Christus, Soli Deo Gloria
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This, in effect, is called a “hit and run”. I also find it very presumptuous for you to post one thread just to broaden our horizons…

My own background is wild…athiest liberal to conservative Catholic Christian…And the road between here and there have paved with many a book, Barbara.

But thanks for trying to broaden my horizons non-the-less…

:blessyou:
 
Barbara -

You asked members here to “step up to the plate” and read Protestant works before pointing out the errors of the various Protestant interpretations. You made the assumption that the only education we received about our faith was from nuns, priests and apologists without recognizing that about 50%+ of our most active and enthusiastic members here are ex-Protestants. You have received post after post from our members who have read book upon book by Protestants and yet they still came to the conclusion that the Catholic Church is the true Church of Christ. With humility, you owe them an apology for saying, " Too many of you just believe what the priests, nuns, and Catholic apologists tell you. Step up to the plate and study BOTH sides."

Just to address the idea of anti-Protestant, I find this wikipedia entry humorous:

As Protestants have had anti-Catholic attitudes, Catholics for centuries have had anti-Protestant attitudes, which are generally based on each group’s denunciation of the other and becoming most severe when adherents of each were at war with each other.
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Here is the entry with my editing:

"As Protestants have had anti-Catholic attitudes, Catholics for centuries (edited by me to say, centuries is accurate, since Protestants created themselves 5 centuries ago and the Church has opposed their heresies since - we certainly could not have opposed them for a millenia or since the beginning of Christianity as they did not exist beyond “centuries”) have had anti-Protestant attitudes, which are generally based on each group’s denunciation of the other (edited to say that declaring a break-away religion heretical and equating that denunciation to Protestant anti-Catholicism is apples and oranges)** and becoming most severe when adherents of each were at war with each other."** en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-protestant

By the way, the name Protestant comes from the fact that these first Reformation churches formed as a protest to Catholicism. In other words, Protestant means “against Catholic”. This is why the term anti-Protestant makes me chuckle. Protestants could not exist without being opposed to Catholicism. Yet the existence of the Catholic Church depends on nothing other than Christ. With the understanding of what Protestant means, an accurate synonym for anti-Protestant is “anti-Anti-Catholic”. If being anti-Anti-Catholic" is a crime, let me be guilty!
 
Barbara -

You asked members here to “step up to the plate” and read Protestant works before pointing out the errors of the various Protestant interpretations. You made the assumption that the only education we received about our faith was from nuns, priests and apologists without recognizing that about 50%+ of our most active and enthusiastic members here are ex-Protestants. You have received post after post from our members who have read book upon book by Protestants and yet they still came to the conclusion that the Catholic Church is the true Church of Christ. With humility, you owe them an apology for saying, " Too many of you just believe what the priests, nuns, and Catholic apologists tell you. Step up to the plate and study BOTH sides."

Just to address the idea of anti-Protestant, I find this wikipedia entry humorous:

As Protestants have had anti-Catholic attitudes, Catholics for centuries have had anti-Protestant attitudes, which are generally based on each group’s denunciation of the other and becoming most severe when adherents of each were at war with each other.

Here is the entry with my editing:

"As Protestants have had anti-Catholic attitudes, Catholics for centuries (edited by me to say, centuries is accurate, since Protestants created themselves 5 centuries ago and the Church has opposed their heresies since - we certainly could not have opposed them for a millenia or since the beginning of Christianity as they did not exist beyond “centuries”) have had anti-Protestant attitudes, which are generally based on each group’s denunciation of the other (edited to say that declaring a break-away religion heretical and equating that denunciation to Protestant anti-Catholicism is apples and oranges)** and becoming most severe when adherents of each were at war with each other."** en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-protestant

By the way, the name Protestant comes from the fact that these first Reformation churches formed as a protest to Catholicism. In other words, Protestant means “against Catholic”. This is why the term anti-Protestant makes me chuckle. Protestants could not exist without being opposed to Catholicism. Yet the existence of the Catholic Church depends on nothing other than Christ. With the understanding of what Protestant means, an accurate synonym for anti-Protestant is “anti-Anti-Catholic” which makes the original term simply :whacky: . If being anti-Anti-Catholic" is a crime, let me be guilty!
 
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