How many women here wear a headcovering to Novus Ordo Mass?

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Several older women wear one to Mass, and a few young girls wear them also. The women in my parish seem to favor hats. I see a lot of those each Sunday.
 
Wear it with pride? That seems like an oxymoron, I thought the whole point was humility?
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Mea culpa… wrong choice of word ! I personally do not care if another veils or not. I was simply making a personal statement to a fellow poster.
 
Veronika_OCDS said:
Hasikelee, if I have offended you in some way please accept my apologies. I assure you that I do try to do all those things, but for love of Christ. Lets stop now.

Your sister in Christ,
Veronika
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Veronika,

I find no fault with your post and thought that I was giving you a compliment.

Better luck next time around!
 
]I am so sorry you have run into this problem of having strangers make you feel so uncomfortable. I really do not comprehend how a woman that wears a veil can make another woman feel “lesser”. I honestly have never found a woman who veils outwardly prideful. Matter of fact before I started going to the TLM I went to a NO parish that almost half the women veiled. It was never a topic of conversation, nor is it at my TLM parish.
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Oh, goodness, no. I am not talking about strangers! I have no reason to judge or guess a stranger’s motives. I am talking about my parish, my community, the group I am part of, the churches I am involved with.

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Let me make that clear, I’m sorry, I still sound vague. What I mean to say is that I know people who wear a manilla as a sign of pride and arrogance. In so wearing it, they do not seek to say they are in the presence of their Lord, but rather to say “I am better than you, I know more than you, I practice my faith better than you, etc” I do not judge here as this is specifically what they intend to do and what they say they intend to do.

That is why I mentioned that I am 100% certain there are plenty of Catholic women who practice wearing a manilla with humility. I just don’t know any personally and of course you understand that would affect my view of the practice, along with limiting my ability to practice it as I have no desire to be seen with these women, practicing their pride and arrogance.

Phew!
I don’t deny I am clinging to the past. The great saints veiled, and all the statues that represent Our Lady and other holy woman in my Church, their heads are covered. I feel it an honor to imitate the precedent Our Lady has left for us. As Saint Paul has so plainly explained:

2 Thessalonians 2:14 Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.
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A very good witness to this practice! 👍
Sexually feminine? :eek: Wow, this is the strangest and saddest reason I have ever read for being against a head covering. It has also sickened me to think a Catholic woman would have such a thought enter her mind about a piece of lace on top of one’s head. I guess if you are looking at a head covering in that context, well it wouldn’t seem very meek to you.
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I find sex to be absolutely beautiful and amazing, so I see no reason for it to be sad or strange. Simply inappropriate at Mass. Although perhaps it would be most appropriate at Mass for are we not becoming one with Christ. Hmmm.

Nevertheless, I do stand to become rather prideful and it is my own weakness that I must be ever aware of and ever guarding against.
 
TNT said:
A better question:
I often wonder, if the people who DO NOT wear a veil to Mass, would wear that veil to a Mass where CHRIST HIMSELF were visibly present. If He just showed up and Said the Mass Himself.
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Due to this thread, I have been more deeply considering the practice of wearing a manilla for Mass. My last comment on the beauty of our sexuality and the marital embrace did open up the possibility for wearing one.

But then I ask myself the question you pose and I respond with a very strong no. I would feel as if I were trying to dress myself up or hide myself.

Which again leads me to believe that this practice is simply a cultural norm that people will respond to differently depending on their culture and the way they were raised.
 
hasikelee said:
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Let me make that clear, I’m sorry, I still sound vague. What I mean to say is that I know people who wear a manilla as a sign of pride and arrogance. In so wearing it, they do not seek to say they are in the presence of their Lord, but rather to say “I am better than you, I know more than you, I practice my faith better than you, etc” I do not judge here as this is specifically what they intend to do and what they say they intend to do.
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Have you considered that this might possibly be just your own interpretation of the motives of those who are wearing head coverings? Have they actually stated that their intent is pride and arrogance?
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Yes. These ladies are sure that the Catholic church needs to be changed and that women who don’t wear a veil are bad Catholics. Not my words.
Not really sure what you are referring to on your comment above. What exactly is inappropriate at Mass?
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I was referring to wearing a veil.
 
TNT said:
Ah, I was jist wondrin:
http://daisypath.com/days/071124/3/0/-6/1/.png

In 9mo + 5dy are you planning to wear a ah…err…veil?
If so, WHY?
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Actually, we have moved the date to August. I need to update that siggy!

And I am really, truly being conversational here. This is not a smart response. But I must say, that I will not be wearing a veil for my wedding and never would.

Again, this issue seems to be cultural.

If I just pretend for a moment that I would wear a veil, it would be because I am presenting myself to my soon to be hubby so that we can be united together.

In my post to marymonde I mention this:
Although perhaps it would be most appropriate at Mass for are we not becoming one with Christ. Hmmm.
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And I am still openly considering that as a solid argument for wearing a veil at Mass. Although as I said in that post, I would still worry about my own prideful tendency and still have to overcome my ingrained cultural differences to it.
 
WenckebachCath said:
So, you meant “Wear it without shame”?
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:rolleyes: I really didn’t meananything ! When I converted ( probably before you were born) women were still wearing the veil… I never stopped , that’s all… somebody asked a question , starting this forum, and I was just putting my 2 cents in… no big deal… I apologize if I offended you in any way.
 
paramedicgirl said:
I would love to wear a mantilla to the NO Mass I go to, but I would be the only one there to do so, and I’m not yet brave enough! I would feel conspicuous if other people stared at me.

I do wear one to the TLM on the few occasions where I am fortunate enough to access one.
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Be brave. Only 3 or so of us wear our head coverings at NO Mass at our parish. It appears no one minds us at all. And all of us wear them as a matter of personal humility. I don’t worry about whether anyone else wears them or not. Although it is nice to see it.
And there are usually about 500 folks at the mass I attend.
I understand more ladies wear them to the 7:30am mass than at our 9:00 where I go…
 
I’ve started wearing a hat to mass about 2 or 3 months ago. I have 4 or 5 hats that I mix and match. I would say at daily mass between 10-15 women wear either hats or mantillas, including a nun who wears full habit. I think between 15 to 30 women wear some type of headcovering to mass on the weekend. I feel like I’m able to concentrate more on the Lord and my prayers when I cover my head. I would like to wear my mantilla, but I feel more comfortable wearing a hat.
I hope that one day women will realize how beautiful and respectful this tradition truly is. 👍
 
slyboots said:
Be brave. Only 3 or so of us wear our head coverings at NO Mass at our parish. It appears no one minds us at all. And all of us wear them as a matter of personal humility. I don’t worry about whether anyone else wears them or not. Although it is nice to see it.
And there are usually about 500 folks at the mass I attend.
I understand more ladies wear them to the 7:30am mass than at our 9:00 where I go…
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Again, I admire women who just go ahead and wear head coverings, no matter what others think. I wish it wasn’t such a big deal with some people. I keep hearing here that fear of criticism and judgment from others is a stumbling block for many women, even though they want to cover their heads at Mass.

I think it’s a beautiful custom, one that speaks of humility and reverence.
 
Some of the older ladies wears hats at mass. I would feel odd wearing a mantilla, as it is not in my culture to do so. A hat would be fine, except I was expressly taught that it is rude to wear a hat in church. So I’d have to get over how I was raised. (I’ve always snatched hats off my head upon entering church.)

I did participate in the Catholic Answers headcovering day. I can’t find that thread in the archives, though, so I think the great forum crash wiped it out. Maybe you should institute another one, where all the ladies of the forum who would like wear a headcovering to mass on a set day. Ask Island Oak. I think I recall that she is the one who organized it last time. I have a bad memory, though.
 
TNT said:
A better question:
I often wonder, if the people who DO NOT wear a veil to Mass, would wear that veil to a Mass where CHRIST HIMSELF were visibly present. If He just showed up and Said the Mass Himself.
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You know, I don’t currently wear a veil, but I’m not one of those who would never wear one; I wouldn’t mind wearing one if I really thought I ought to.

However, having grown up not doing it and living in a society that doesn’t value headcovering for women, I think I can honestly say that I would not feel at all compelled to wear a veil were Christ Himself visibly present offering the Mass. In order to feel that I need to wear a veil in His presence, there would have to have been some influence or environment that created that instinct in me. But that influence/environment is missing in modern Catholic society.

I find it a little difficult to comprehend how wearing a veil makes one feel humble and attentive at prayer (no offense to you ladies on whom veiling has that effect). I mean, you can’t feel or see your veil like you can your kneeling, hands folded, head bowed, etc. So I guess I can’t quite make the connection.

The only thing that really makes me feel humble at prayer is the actual thoughts I engage in at prayer. For example, the thought of Jesus giving Himself so completely to me in Holy Communion even after I’ve failed to break from the sins that are keeping me from giving myself to Him. Or the thought of God making Himself so accessible to us lowly men (:D) by assuming the appearance of bread. Or the thought of how powerless I am to acquire virtue/conquer vice without His abundant grace. I mean, feeling humble for me is rarely the result of some external like veiling; it’s almost always the result of meditative prayer. But that’s just me…

Maria
 
I can remember when I was girl in the 50s my mother would walk me to the church for confession and we always had our heads covered. I always wore something until I started to date my husband - he doesn’t like it so I follow his wishes. When I go by myself I usually have a hat. Right now I have an Air Force Booney that my son gave me for mother’s day. Lost all the others I had in Katrina and I’ve not seen a mantilla for sale in Arkansas. Next Sunday I will be attending Mass at a church in the area where my son and wife live. He is in Iraq and she is considering converting and wants to surprise him on his return in June so I will have my hat on and I will explain the wearing to her and hope it is one of the things she likes about our church. 👍
 
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