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bapcathluth
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Yes, I don’t have a problem with birth control.
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Didi
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I believe every family and every situation is unique. Whatever God’s will is for your family will be the best situation for you, whatever that means.
I know many parents who didn’t marry until their 40s, or adopted children when they were in their 40s, who are wonderful parents! As far as having a disabled child, we also have friends who have had or do have children with challenges, mental and physical, and wouldn’t change their circumstances for the world! After all, even if you have a healthy child, there are no guarantees that child will stay healthy during their entire lifetime. God will give you the tools you need for whatever happens to you in life; just trust in Him!
I know many parents who didn’t marry until their 40s, or adopted children when they were in their 40s, who are wonderful parents! As far as having a disabled child, we also have friends who have had or do have children with challenges, mental and physical, and wouldn’t change their circumstances for the world! After all, even if you have a healthy child, there are no guarantees that child will stay healthy during their entire lifetime. God will give you the tools you need for whatever happens to you in life; just trust in Him!
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st_felicity
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Originally Posted by bapcathluth
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I am not Catholic, so being open to life isn’t an issue for me. .*
Is this really what you mean?
bapcathluth:
Originally Posted by bapcathluth
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I am not Catholic, so being open to life isn’t an issue for me. .*
Is this really what you mean?
Well…your full post seems to say that you ARE open to life unless you have to carry the baby. Not being Catholic, I assume you aren’t aware that Catholics believe that our religion is objectively true, and therefore believe these life issues are relevant for every human being, Catholic or not.
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AmyS
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My grandma was 47 when she had my mother… There was nothing wrong with that. My mom was a very happy child, and my grandmother was the best!
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Island_Oak
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I find this statement fascinating. Were you not the author of several posts on another thread stating that “baby killers” should “burn,” that “baby killers” were “going to hell” and “we should happily see them go to the devil?” Do you realize that several common forms of birth control, including the pill, IUD, and so called “emergency” contraception can and do act as abortifacients? How in God’s name do you reconcile these two positions–Catholic or not?
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st_felicity
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Island Oak:
Another irony here is that that thread was about Catholics who left the Church for a Protestant denomination…I too am puzzled…
Good catch Island Oak–I was on that thread too, but I didn’t connect the name to the statements. Perhaps it’s too much to ask someone who delights in the potential damnation of another to offer a well-reasoned point of view, let alone a consistant one.
Another irony here is that that thread was about Catholics who left the Church for a Protestant denomination…I too am puzzled…
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bapcathluth
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Well, I was being ironic in those posts on purpose because I couldn’t believe the vitriol on that thread. I was only repeating what others said to make a point. You Island Oak, and only a couple of other people even bothered to disagree. If you look at the history of my posts, you will see that I never state opinions like that and am very empathetic and caring. That was the only time I have done such a thing because I was shocked at what was being posted.
Actually, Island Oak, you are one of my favorite posters. You are always charitable and kind and you look for the positive.
My father is Catholic and I know that he and my mother used birth control by the way. I haven’t talked to him about this, but I do know he never misses church. Maybe he doesn’t take communion though. I haven’t gone with him in years.
Actually, Island Oak, you are one of my favorite posters. You are always charitable and kind and you look for the positive.
My father is Catholic and I know that he and my mother used birth control by the way. I haven’t talked to him about this, but I do know he never misses church. Maybe he doesn’t take communion though. I haven’t gone with him in years.
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Bill_A
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Marys sister Elizabeth was old when SHe concieved. However it doesnt say if she was 30-40 or 60 years old.
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st_felicity
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I am sorry BapCath, but this only muddies the waters further. The post that is MOST confusing is the one on this thread that says you don’t have a problem with birth control–are you now saying that you were only fanning flames (literally) on the other thread and that in addition to believing BC is okay, you also do not hold strong anti-abortion opinions? It’s just not adding up–with those wild statements, were you trying to prove to someone (yourself?) that Catholics are radical pro-lifer nut jobs or pick and choosers like your father appears to be? Sarcasm just doesn’t come across cyber-space very well.
(BTW, technically your dad could still be a Catholic w/out that particular mortal sin if he periodically attempted to convince his wife that they should be open to life–otherwise, maybe he repented and confessed. I pray he did or will.)
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bapcathluth
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I am not pro-abortion, but I don’t equate birth control with abortion. I personally have never taken the pill, but not because I was worried about it being abortifacient. In fact, I never heard of that, and I don’t agree with it.
My father is still Catholic, believe me. He goes to church every Sunday. I don’t know the state of his soul or whether he confessed. I am quite sure he never tried to convince my mother to be open to life because I think he was very happy with two children. I couldn’t say for sure though since that is their private business, and I would not interfere or snoop around about their birth control discussions.
I wasn’t trying to fan the fire, but maybe it seemed that way. It’s the only time I have done it on a thread. I just thought that the posters there were way too gleeful about these formerly devoted Catholics leaving the church. They were crowing about them going to hell, etc. and I thought it wasn’t a very Christian way to behave.
My father is still Catholic, believe me. He goes to church every Sunday. I don’t know the state of his soul or whether he confessed. I am quite sure he never tried to convince my mother to be open to life because I think he was very happy with two children. I couldn’t say for sure though since that is their private business, and I would not interfere or snoop around about their birth control discussions.
I wasn’t trying to fan the fire, but maybe it seemed that way. It’s the only time I have done it on a thread. I just thought that the posters there were way too gleeful about these formerly devoted Catholics leaving the church. They were crowing about them going to hell, etc. and I thought it wasn’t a very Christian way to behave.
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st_felicity
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Well, that clears things up a bit…thank-you…it the
in-FLAME-atory remarks did come across a little too strong if your intention was irony.
About BC–the IUD always works to about a baby in the ferti;ized egg state, and the pill does at least sometimes. It’s a back-up for when it fails to prevent a follicle from being released…research the topic–it’s very enlightening!
Sorry–gotta go to work…
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PopSmoke
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I have 4 children and I wish I had many more. My oldest is 31 and my youngest is 3 (you do the math – I was 26 when the first was born). I have grandchildren the same age as my two youngest.
Do you honestly think it could be a good thing to face God and say to him, “I want this child but not those others you planned for me”. God is pure love. Children are pure love.
Sacrifices are required but so what, they are good for you. I can’t afford to retire because I will still have children in the house when I am 70. It’s worth it.
Do you honestly think it could be a good thing to face God and say to him, “I want this child but not those others you planned for me”. God is pure love. Children are pure love.
Sacrifices are required but so what, they are good for you. I can’t afford to retire because I will still have children in the house when I am 70. It’s worth it.
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Annunciata
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I applaud you:clapping:
God Bless,
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ISABUS
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My father was 59 years old and my mother almost 47 when I was born. It’s wonderful having had older parents. They were patient, kind, and loving. I’m named after my grandmothers who died soon after I was born.
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