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Angels_Eyes
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Amen to that!Let us look to Jesus, our all sufficient, all powerful, totally loving great God and Saviour
Amazing experience, thanks for sharing.
Welcome to the forum!:hug1:
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Amazing experience, thanks for sharing.
Welcome to the forum!:hug1:
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Telstar
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Iād have to say that heās as real as a heart attack. I have absolutely no doubts about it, anymore. When I was younger, I also fell for the tripe that I had heard about the devil, and hell, not being real. During my āsearchingā phase, I questioned just about everything that I had been taught by my family and the Church. Then, I had an āencounterā with pure evil in a ādreamā. I probably would have shrugged it off as ājust a dreamā if I hadnāt woken up in the middle of it, and still seen the flames and faces all around me as I got out of bed, walked around the house and woke my husband, because I was so scared by it. It still took a long while for it to finally disappear so I could go back to sleep. But, only after saying many prayers to the Blessed Mother to, please, make it stop! :bigyikes:
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Angels_Eyes
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That is super scary!!!You have just made me believe even more.
Thank goodness for our Blessed Mother.
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At_Trent
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Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host -
by the Divine Power of God -
cast into hell, satan and all the evil spirits,
who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen.
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host -
by the Divine Power of God -
cast into hell, satan and all the evil spirits,
who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen.
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Telstar
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Amen to that!
You have just made me believe even more.
Thank goodness for our Blessed Mother.
That was only a snippet of the ādreamā. The rest of it wasnāt too pretty, either! I will never doubt that thereās a real devil, again.
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Telstar
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And, Amen to that, too! I think it was very soon after my dream that I first learned that prayer. Now, I always say it, every night, before going to sleep.
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SGWessells
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Some would say that a truly loviong being would not let the powers of evil fully develop if he could prevent it. But thatās another thread.Satan and his angels are real. I have seen fallen angels appear and disappear before my very eyes. I have woken up and literally felt hands closing in around my throat and squeeze. The hands did not release until I managed to in some way call out to Jesus to save me. The Name of Jesus has real power. Some brothers prayed for me and it never happened again after they prayed.
When Satan rebelled and put a question mark on Gods character, God did the only thing a loving God could doā¦confine the problem beings, Satan and his angels, and let the fruits of evil fully develop so that all of the intelligent beings in the universe can clearly see the true nature of Satans claims.
The cross removes all doubt concerning the characters of both God and Satan. Satan, in urging the murder of the spotless Lamb of God, reveals how truely evil he and his alternative principles are. Jesus, in emptying Himself out and sacrificing Himself show the selfless love of God and His infinite concern for His precious creatures.
Let us look to Jesus, our all sufficient, all powerful, totally loving great God and Saviour
Why couldnāt God just zap Satan out of existence?
As for your experiences, I have no doubt that they are real to you. But the mind can play tricks on us. If you were a Hindu, you would personify the choking hands differently. If you were a humanist, you would perhaps consult a neurologist. Attributing the experience to Satan indicates your particular set of religious symbols; it doesnāt make them real. People in a state where REM states (which are the states in which we dream) mix with waking states see all sorts of things, but they arenāt real. Dr. Kevin Nelson wrote a book about this called The Spiritual Doorway in the Brain.
As for the prayers of your friends, it could be that the confidence they created in you relieved whatever stressful conditions produced the choking sensations.
I do not expect that these alternate explanations will convince you, but I want to suggest that there are alternate explanations.
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SGWessells
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So letās seeā¦the ultimate deceiver noticed you in a questioning mood, in which it would have been easy for him to deceive you, but instead he sent you a dream that convinced you he was real and drove you to prayer? Seems unlikely. Or did God send you the dream? If so, why prolong the torture until you were desperate? Doesnāt seem very Godlike. There is a third explanation, which is that your brain is one of those which can enter an REM (Rapid Eye Movement) state characteristic of dreams, while being awake. This is not an uncommon phenomenon in spiritual experiences of all religions. See
thespiritualdoorway.org for more information, or check our Dr. Kevin Nelsonās book, The Spiritual Doorway: A Neurologistās Search for the God Experience.
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Telstar
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It wasnāt all that simple. The whole thing was a response to many things that I was struggling with at the time. Confirming the existence of the devil to me, was just one part of it. I was also questioning the existence of God, as much as the devil. This from someone that had always been very devout, before I went āsearchingā. I had been reading some stuff about the occult and other religious beliefs because I was curious about what other people believed. I was beginning to head in the opposite direction than I had been going in the past. I was basically āplaying with fireā, and I knew it. I think this dream was meant to be a āwake up callā, to remind me who I was and what I already knew to be true. In fact, in the dream it was as if someone standing beside me was holding me back, at a safe distance, to protect me from getting too close.
As far as the continuation of the dream once I āwoke upā is concerned, it lasted for a very long time. My husband woke up because I was tossing and turning, then got up and walked around the apartment, crying (repeating this process, several times, while trying to get back to sleep). His response was basically, āIt was just a dream, go back to sleep!ā. (I donāt think he saw the significance of the fact that it would not go away. I had woken him up and he just wanted to sleep.
) Iāve had lots of other dreams, and nightmares, in my lifetime (Iām pushing 60 and this dream happened in my early 20ās), but I have never had any others that were anything like that one. It was completely unique.There was a lot more to it than just seeing the āflamesā, but itās a very long story. I only mentioned a small part about the devil, since thatās the subject of this thread. It was actually a very long dream, that shifted from one thing to another. But, most of it revolved around the lasting effects of playing around with āevil thingsā as if it was some kind of silly game. You can believe whatever you want to believe about it. But, that wonāt change anything that I got out of it, or what itās meant in my life since that time. To me, it was not ājust a dreamā. It literally scared the hell out of me. Iām pretty sure that was the intention.
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FreeSpirit1
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Evidence of Satan in the Modern World: ewtn.com/library/NEWAGE/EVIDSATN.HTM
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FreeSpirit1
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[SIGN]Greetings fellow Catholics and others![/SIGN]
If Satan didnāt exist, then why would the Vatican have official exorcists? :doh2:
One of them is FR. JOSE FRANCISCO āJOCISā SYQUIA in Manilla
See the summary of the book:
stpauls.ph/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&category_id=23&product_id=664&Itemid=1&vmcchk=1&Itemid=1
If Satan didnāt exist, then why would the Vatican have official exorcists? :doh2:
One of them is FR. JOSE FRANCISCO āJOCISā SYQUIA in Manilla
See the summary of the book:
stpauls.ph/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&category_id=23&product_id=664&Itemid=1&vmcchk=1&Itemid=1
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FreeSpirit1
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More evidence Satan is real[/SIGN]
Some people give up their souls to Satan, and actually worship it. See an ex-Satanistās story:
Satanist Convert Zachary King:
comeholyspiritconferences.org/component/content/article/1-home/17-zachary-king.html
More evidence Satan is real[/SIGN]
Some people give up their souls to Satan, and actually worship it. See an ex-Satanistās story:
Satanist Convert Zachary King:
comeholyspiritconferences.org/component/content/article/1-home/17-zachary-king.html
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Credendum
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Satan IS real. Recently I began to pray the rosary more often, and soon after that, a Catholic acquaintance of mine suddenly started hating me out of the blue. The realm of darkness is aware when Godās Church steps up to pray, and influences those vessels who are either spiritually slumbering or willing to cooperate with evil.
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FreeSpirit1
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Hey Credendum,
If not too personal, can you give more details? What do you mean āout of the blueā? Perhaps your friend was just having a bad day? I just want to make sure we (praying the rosary) donāt have the āvictimā mentality.
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FreeSpirit1
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[SIGN]Even more evidence Satan is real! [/SIGN]
Here is an interview with one of the most respected exorcists, and well known, Father Gabriel Amorth:
freerepublic.com/focus/religion/1260364/posts
Here is an interview with one of the most respected exorcists, and well known, Father Gabriel Amorth:
freerepublic.com/focus/religion/1260364/posts
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Credendum
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Sure. Iāve been talking with her for several months now, and every time we talk, she encourages me to persevere in the faith. She encouraged me through RCIA. Yet soon after I began to pray the rosary more often, it was as if someone took her identity and warped it. She was not herself - talking about suicide, being a slut, etc. Totally NOT her. So I asked her what was going on and she said, āWhatās wrong? You donāt like my new tune?ā Then she stopped speaking to me. I wonder if she is really doing the talking now.Hey Credendum,
If not too personal, can you give more details? What do you mean āout of the blueā? Perhaps your friend was just having a bad day? I just want to make sure we (praying the rosary) donāt have the āvictimā mentality.
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Angels_Eyes
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Wow
I have no wordsā¦that was amazing! Zachary, an amazing man of strength. If anyone on this thread doubts Satan, please watch this. Thank you Blessed Mother for saving this man so he can now continue his wonderful ministry.Excellent link āFreeSpiritā, thank you, it just made a huge difference in my life.
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Angels_Eyes
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Another brilliant link āFreeSpiritā. I have read the book āThe Riteā. It is based on Father Amorthās exorcisms. Have you read it. The movie, just released in July/August was good too.[SIGN]Even more evidence Satan is real! [/SIGN]
Here is an interview with one of the most respected exorcists, and well known, Father Gabriel Amorth:
freerepublic.com/focus/religion/1260364/posts
Just more proof isnāt it. People are kidding themselves if they DONāT believe.
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rinnie
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Just walk out your door, turn on your morning or evening news. Go to the porn sites on the internet. Watch how people treat one another.
He is stronger and stronger everyday. Just watch the me me its all about me. Forget about your neighbor.
Go to the 10 Commandments. How many are live out today. Thats where you will find your answer.
Everyone go through them. How many do you obey, how many do you disobey. Are your working for Satan or God. Only you know.
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FreeSpirit1
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Thanks for your appreciation, Angel Eyes!Another brilliant link āFreeSpiritā. I have read the book āThe Riteā. It is based on Father Amorthās exorcisms. Have you read it. The movie, just released in July/August was good too.
Just more proof isnāt it. People are kidding themselves if they DONāT believe.
Unfortunately, I havenāt read any of Amorthās books, but if I had more time! It is fascinating, indeed.
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