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Dorothy
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I am gratefully secure in my Catholic faith…5
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tawny
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Securely Catholic forever #5.
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rcwitness
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I haven’t read if this was addressed, but I have a question before polling. Do you mean our personal adherence to Catholic/Protestant faith, or the whole of the Catholic/Protestant faiths in themselves?
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7_Sorrows
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I selected “2”. I also am a convert from the Episcopal/Anglican faith and I feel much the same way you do. I was a nonpracticing Christian for 25+ years before I converted in my 50’s. I started the annulment process which is really making me challenge the Catholic faith. I am into the process for almost a year now. I am really not that enthusiastic about the Catholic faith like I once was. I think I was happier as a nonpracticing Christian/perhaps bordering agnostic. I really don’t know where I am in my spiritual journey anymore.
I was raised Episcopalian and became Anglican in my 50’ before converting to Catholicism. My Dad was Catholic also non-practicing and my Mom a non-practicing
Lutheran.
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Peter_J
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I mean you individually/personally.
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Wannano
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I will put a different slant on it by stating that my security is not found or based on any denominationalness.
2 Timothy 1:12…for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I’ve committed unto Him against that day.
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rcwitness
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At times, like after a holy confession, and receiving Him in a worthy manner, I have a #5 security. At other times, when I am shamefully failing to do what I know is right, I have a #1 security.
My knowledge of His salvation was made known through His Church.I will put a different slant on it by stating that my security is not found or based on any denominationalness.
2 Timothy 1:12…for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I’ve committed unto Him against that day.
Ephesians 3
To me, though I am the very least of all the saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, and to make all men see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things; that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places. This was according to the eternal purpose which he has realized in Christ Jesus our Lord
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Peter_J
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This may go without saying, but let me say it anyhow: everyone is also welcome to respond to the question “What does it mean to be secure in your Catholicness/Protestantness?”
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rcwitness
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I suppose it means to have a clean conscience before God. To confess wrong doing and persevere in the faith. To love God and brother. To keep His commands, and to give no offense to His Church (honor her precepts). To be “undefiled before God, and spotless from the world”.
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drac16
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I’m a 4 in my Sufi faith. I used to be a Sunni, but I left and I am currently convinced that Sunnism is corrupt. What Sunnis believe in regards to apostasy and homosexuals is repulsive and unscriptural, in my opinion. I’m an independent Sufi; independent in the sense that I don’t follow a Sufi order, nor am I being mentored by a sheikh. One does not have to follow Orthodox Islam [Sunnism] to find fulfillment.
I follow in the footsteps of Rumi, Abdul-Qadir Jilani and Ahmad Sirhindi [may Allah have mercy on them]. I find myself greatly encouraged when I read about their teachings.
I follow in the footsteps of Rumi, Abdul-Qadir Jilani and Ahmad Sirhindi [may Allah have mercy on them]. I find myself greatly encouraged when I read about their teachings.
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peter26
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Thanks for sharing, that’s a really good perspective on things.I will put a different slant on it by stating that my security is not found or based on any denominationalness.
2 Timothy 1:12…for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I’ve committed unto Him against that day.
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Rosebud77
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Well yes it would be. I am secure in Jesus first and foremost
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Rosebud77
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Your post made me smile! We have much in common. BUT and it is a hug and growing BUT, the terminology and theology come to mean less than nothing, Just Jesus now as I age. For me.all of that was a step along the road
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M-Dent
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I think an accurate answer may depend on when and under what conditions one was asked.
If one simply answered based solely on belief and not considering the marriage of this with faith, I suppose the majority would be 5.
I’ll roughly define belief/faith as;
Belief: intellectual/knowledge based (i.e., Firm belief Jesus died for our sins and resurrected. Established a Church to guide and aid us in our Salvation).
Faith: trust based (Bonded trust as with a small child with a parent. Of supernatural origin fed by the Holy Spirit especially through the Sacraments.).
As a practicing Catholic, I can note a firm unshakable belief - yet, in weakness, I allow my faith at times to be tested.
If one simply answered based solely on belief and not considering the marriage of this with faith, I suppose the majority would be 5.
I’ll roughly define belief/faith as;
Belief: intellectual/knowledge based (i.e., Firm belief Jesus died for our sins and resurrected. Established a Church to guide and aid us in our Salvation).
Faith: trust based (Bonded trust as with a small child with a parent. Of supernatural origin fed by the Holy Spirit especially through the Sacraments.).
As a practicing Catholic, I can note a firm unshakable belief - yet, in weakness, I allow my faith at times to be tested.
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Peter_J
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Glad to hear from you W.I will put a different slant on it by stating that my security is not found or based on any denominationalness.
2 Timothy 1:12…for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I’ve committed unto Him against that day.
Possibly I should have made the thread just “Protestants: How secure are you in your Protestantness?”, because on CAF I don’t typically read a lot of posts from Catholic posters, but I do read a lot of posts from Protestants (and I like to think that I’ve had a modicum of success getting Protestants to read my own meager thoughts as well
).The thing is, I don’t know how most of y’all would answer the question, but it doesn’t seem (to borrow a word from Hamlet) that most Protestant posters are very secure. There’s no need for me to name names or even specific situations, because I’ve seen the same basic pattern about a million times: someone sees something posted on the internet that’s basically garbage and subscribes/shares/responds to it – almost compulsively, it appears to me.
Frankly, that doesn’t look like being “secure in your Protestantism”, IMHO.
P.S. Or as the bard put it,
https://africacheck.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Someone-is-wrong-on-internet.png.
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Peter_J
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(someone else recently used a slight stronger term, but I don’t want to risk someone stopping-reading-what-I-say because of a metaphor)
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Wannano
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It occurs to me that the fact that Ps have options to chose from may make the Cs look more secure in their position.
I have been known to impulsively respond to some posts but I don’t see it directly means I am insecure in my “ness”
Sometimes I perceive the original post as perhaps indicating a security level but who am I to judge?
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steido01
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I’m secure in my catholic faith because it was gifted to me by grace by a pretty reliable guy. His Name was Jesus.
If there was any portion of justification that required something of me, I’d be the least secure person on the face of the earth.
If there was any portion of justification that required something of me, I’d be the least secure person on the face of the earth.
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Richard_White
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Same here! May God bless you all!
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rcwitness
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This is how I answered the question. It’s like asking, “How much do you really love?”
I do love God and neighbor. But not always. I betray love out of my weakness. I run away from love, to that dark, dangerous, pathetic place. He searches and reconciles me, through conversion and conviction.
Do I have secure trust in the Catholic Faith? Yes. To the #5, to be sure. But I also know that some of its depths need very wise interpretation, that no single individual possesses. The Pope may have the gift to Confirm certain matters raised before him. But no Pope has it all figured out, and able to deliver the Deposit in detailed explanation.
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