How seriously to take a rose from St. Therese

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I wonder if St. Therese meant literally “roses”? I have always taken it to mean spiritual blessings. I certainly hope and pray that all who may be discerning their future vocation and call from God will receive many spiritual blessings.

TS
Don’t forget that she is called “The Little Flower.” Many, many people have received roses from her. I, myself, received one from her, although I wasn’t expecting one. I believe she lets you know that she heard your prayer, and petitioned God for you, by sending a rose when the prayer is answered.
 
I’ve never heard of this devotion in my readings on St Therese or otherwise. To me it does sound pretty much like superstition when tied to making life decisions. Don’t get me wrong, St Therese of Lisieux is a saint very, very dear to me.

If you feel you have a calling as a religious and you feel you have the discipline and you are free from regular major mortal sin, I say, you are being called. But God leaves it up to you to take up on that calling.

The thing to remember is that when you step into the religious house that doesn’t mean you are contracted to stay there forever, you always go through a long process before making final vows. That is, you have a long time to decide whether the (or a particular) religious life is the right one for you.

If after a month or a year you decide, deep in your heart, that religious life isn’t the one for you, well, you graciously leave. You are still free to marry or look for another calling.
 
Don’t forget that she is called “The Little Flower.” Many, many people have received roses from her. I, myself, received one from her, although I wasn’t expecting one. I believe she lets you know that she heard your prayer, and petitioned God for you, by sending a rose when the prayer is answered.
…and if you pray ardently to St. Therese and never receive a literal rose?..is your prayer not then answered until you come across a rose that strikes you as special and from St Therese?..
 
Hello all!

I’ve been discerning for a while and I was really wanting to become religious. I didn’t know where I was going exactly, but I didn’t really think I was going to do anything besides the religious life. Then recently, I did a novena to St. Therese before her feast day. I asked for a red rose if I was called to the married life, a white rose if the religious life, and pink rose if I was not supposed to know yet. I told St. Therese the night before the last day that I needed a real rose. One that I could hold in my hand that was beyond a doubt intended as a gift for me.

The next morning as soon as I got up I prayed the last day of the novena and headed out the door to class. There hanging on my door was red rose. It was a real rose and sitting in a bag of water. In fact the whole lounge outside my room was full of red roses and pictures and quotes from St. Therese. One of my suite-mates, whose patron saint and middle name is Therese, decided to go all out with decorating the night before. She gave everyone in our suite a red rose on their door.

At first I was upset. Then I thought maybe this isn’t the one. I’m not sure what I would have thought if I had gotten another rose that day. I would probably have just been confused. But I didn’t get any more roses. Not a single one did I see that day besides the red ones all over the suite.

l was going to go on a Nun Run over spring break and visit several orders with some other girls from my college. Now, I’m not sure if I should go. I sent a lot of emails to the coordinator suggesting orders and she is kind of assuming I’m going. It would still be fun, but do you think I should still go? I’m just not sure how definitive a rose is. How seriously should I take it? Should I plan my life around it?
Don’t make a novena to St. Therese, then take roses that you find that you would probably find anyway as a sign (don’t expect that “sign” in a cemetery or flower shop). Pay more attention to something that happens unexpectedly- in a place where you’re not likely to see flowers, at a time when there’s no special occasion where someone may have flowers displayed, or when you receive them from a person who wouldn’t normally give you flowers.

Even if it is from St. Therese, I’m not sure getting a rose from St. Therese would mean that you are called to the religious life. It may mean hat you are thinking in the right direction- but even that doesn’t mean that you are called to join the religious life. I’ve known many people who felt called to the priesthood (I don’t know many religious, so I can’t use that as an example), went to seminary for a few years, then discerned that it wasn’t for them. That doesn’t mean their seminary years were wasted or that their calling that they felt was just their imagination- nearly all of the people I have known in situations like that are very thankful for those years. Those years gave them a time and place to grow closer to God.

Would going to the Nun Run be such a waste of time? I don’t see how going could hurt anything. If nothing else, you’ll get to meet some religious (it’s always good to know some, even if it’s not your vocation), and some other girls who are discerning God’s will for their lives.
 
…and if you pray ardently to St. Therese and never receive a literal rose?..is your prayer not then answered until you come across a rose that strikes you as special and from St Therese?..
I can only speak from experience. It was St. Therese, herself, who said she would shower roses down from heaven. The people I have heard of receiving a rose, never looked for one. I can’t explain the hows and whys, only the thrill of realizing that you are receiving a gift from a saint. I also feel that you are made aware that this rose is from St. Therese. When God wants you to be aware of something, He leaves no doubt that He has acted.
 
I was skeptical of this devotion as well until my spiritual director advised me to do it. It has never failed. The thing is, I was/am pretty sure of what God wanted me to do. I just wanted to make certain that it was what He wanted me to do and not something I wanted to do. I have been the recipient of several miracalous roses, each one defied any logical explanation.

Now I guess the thing to ask, is how often do you receive roses? If you are someone who gets them quite frequently then maybe receiving a rose is not big deal. But if you never get one, then pray for one and you receive it, you have to wonder why. You should also pay attention to who is giving it to you and when you receive it. All of these can be signs your prayer was answered.
 
I can only speak from experience. It was St. Therese, herself, who said she would shower roses down from heaven. The people I have heard of receiving a rose, never looked for one. I can’t explain the hows and whys, only the thrill of realizing that you are receiving a gift from a saint. I also feel that you are made aware that this rose is from St. Therese. When God wants you to be aware of something, He leaves no doubt that He has acted.
Very true in that St. Therese did state from Heaven she would shower roses. I have always taken this to mean as spiritual blessings, not literal roses. Certainly I have received spiritual blessings as a result of prayer to St. Therese.
God can indeed do all things; however, my thoughts are that to spread this notion that one can indeed expect a literal rose from Therese as an answer to prayer to her does verge on superstition (if you walk under a ladder you will have bad luck/if you ask St Therese for a rose, she will send one) and could even bring distress if a person should pray to her for a literal rose and not get one. It may even lead a person astray having prayed to St. Therese and seeing a red rose on the walk home from The Church. Or confuse them, seeing a red rose on the way home and then white roses on the table at home.
" An evil and adulterous generation seeketh a sign" Matthew Chapter 12.
Obviously to expect a literal rose from Heaven through St. Therese is to ask for a sign. It is better, to my mind, to spread the truth and devotion that God always answers prayer through the intercession of His saints - not always that answer we may be wanting however. But the answer that God gives is for the very best even if I cannot see this.
Luke Chapter 11 “[11] And which of you, if he ask his father bread, will he give him a stone? or a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? [12] Or if he shall ask an egg, will he reach him a scorpion? [13] If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father from heaven give the good Spirit to them that ask him?”
If I am praying for something specific and suspect I have an answer through some sort of sign - then personally, I would want to check it out with spiritual direction and adivse others to do the same.

TS
 
Very true in that St. Therese did state from Heaven she would shower roses. I have always taken this to mean as spiritual blessings, not literal roses. Certainly I have received spiritual blessings as a result of prayer to St. Therese.
God can indeed do all things; however, my thoughts are that to spread this notion that one can indeed expect a literal rose from Therese as an answer to prayer to her does verge on superstition (if you walk under a ladder you will have bad luck/if you ask St Therese for a rose, she will send one) and could even bring distress if a person should pray to her for a literal rose and not get one. It may even lead a person astray having prayed to St. Therese and seeing a red rose on the walk home from The Church. Or confuse them, seeing a red rose on the way home and then white roses on the table at home.
Obviously to expect a literal rose from Heaven through St. Therese is to ask for a sign. It is better, to my mind, to spread the truth and devotion that God always answers prayer through the intercession of His saints - not always that answer we may be wanting however. But the answer that God gives is for the very best even if I cannot see this.

If I am praying for something specific and suspect I have an answer through some sort of sign - then personally, I would want to check it out with spiritual direction and adivse others to do the same.

TS
If you have truly received a sign from God, for whatever the prayer, you know it’s from God. You have no doubts, and no reason to consult a spiritual director. If you have real doubts about a sign that you feel may or may not be from God, then I feel it is most likely not from God but from wishful thinking. When God gives you His gifts He removes the doubt. There have been a few times in my life that I know with complete certainty that my experience was a direct action by God. There was no question – no room for doubt.
 
If you have truly received a sign from God, for whatever the prayer, you know it’s from God. You have no doubts, and no reason to consult a spiritual director. If you have real doubts about a sign that you feel may or may not be from God, then I feel it is most likely not from God but from wishful thinking. When God gives you His gifts He removes the doubt. There have been a few times in my life that I know with complete certainty that my experience was a direct action by God. There was no question – no room for doubt.
Personally, I would check the sign out with my director always. I certainly have had experience where I have prayed for something and felt I had an answer beyond doubt - no visible sign of that answer however, but I still would discuss it with my director and I think that prudence asks it. Nothing is ever lost through obedience, especially to one’s director and if the director should be wrong since they are not infallible, then he or she cannot stand in the way of what God wants, we can be assured of that.

TS
 
Personally, I would check the sign out with my director always. I certainly have had experience where I have prayed for something and felt I had an answer beyond doubt - no visible sign of that answer however, but I still would discuss it with my director and I think that prudence asks it. Nothing is ever lost through obedience, especially to one’s director and if the director should be wrong since they are not infallible, then he or she cannot stand in the way of what God wants, we can be assured of that.

TS
The priests today are so busy doing the work of two or more priests of old, that I don’t feel that I could ask any to be a spiritual director. Of course, if there is any question I need answered, I do check sources for an answer. God always provides someone when needed.
 
The priests today are so busy doing the work of two or more priests of old, that I don’t feel that I could ask any to be a spiritual director. Of course, if there is any question I need answered, I do check sources for an answer. God always provides someone when needed.
If you do not need reqular spiritual direction then you may ask for such direction within the confessional.
 
If you do not need reqular spiritual direction then you may ask for such direction within the confessional.
Yes, thank you. A quick answer can be handled in the confessional. The problem there, though, is that if you need to delve into any discussion with the priest, it takes time away from those waiting to confess. Twice I had to forego my confession, and was left standing in line, because the priest needed to be elsewhere.
 
Yes, thank you. A quick answer can be handled in the confessional. The problem there, though, is that if you need to delve into any discussion with the priest, it takes time away from those waiting to confess. Twice I had to forego my confession, and was left standing in line, because the priest needed to be elsewhere.
Sorry about that but the confession is the reqular place for those who do not need regular spiritual direction to get it.

If you feel a need or a want of regular spiritual direction then seek it out. It is not really for you to decide if someone has too much work, if you ask a priest and he feels he is overworked he will say no, other wise it is his choice.

Also a spiritual director does not always need to be a priest. There are brothers, sisters, and even lay people who can fill this role.

The first meeting with any spiritual director would be to meet them and get to know them and for them to get to know you and then decide if you wish to continue with them. If for some reason you did not like them, or agree with some aspect of their spirituality then you would not continue.

I have had many spiritual directors, a couple of them I am pretty sure that we disagreed on some aspects of ecclesiology (maybe even theology) but those things never came up in my direction so I did not deem them as reason to break the relationship off. Most of my spiritual direction is, at this time, going towards my prayer life and my illness.
 
Sorry about that but the confession is the reqular place for those who do not need regular spiritual direction to get it.

If you feel a need or a want of regular spiritual direction then seek it out. It is not really for you to decide if someone has too much work, if you ask a priest and he feels he is overworked he will say no, other wise it is his choice.

Also a spiritual director does not always need to be a priest. There are brothers, sisters, and even lay people who can fill this role.

The first meeting with any spiritual director would be to meet them and get to know them and for them to get to know you and then decide if you wish to continue with them. If for some reason you did not like them, or agree with some aspect of their spirituality then you would not continue.

I have had many spiritual directors, a couple of them I am pretty sure that we disagreed on some aspects of ecclesiology (maybe even theology) but those things never came up in my direction so I did not deem them as reason to break the relationship off. Most of my spiritual direction is, at this time, going towards my prayer life and my illness.
Thank you for your advice about spiritual directors. Thankfully I have no need of one now. My pastor is very good about discussing whatever bothers us. We just need to make an appointment to see him. I wish you blessings on advancing in your prayer life, and for good health.
 
The priests today are so busy doing the work of two or more priests of old, that I don’t feel that I could ask any to be a spiritual director. Of course, if there is any question I need answered, I do check sources for an answer. God always provides someone when needed.
Do not be afraid to ask! That’s what they have given their lives for! If the priest is too busy, he’ll let you know and refer you to someone else. But you should never feel that you cannot ask a priest for such important help in your spiritual journey. I’m sure your priest would tell you the same thing. 🙂
 
Hi, I thought that I would share my story with you to give you some inspiration. I recently went to Medjigorie with some friends, not being very religious myself after falling out of the church for 20 years. I ended up going to confession there and met a priest who told me that I should pray to St. Therese (whom I had never heard of). I mentioned it to my friends and they gave me as a present a little rose colored rosary with a special prayer to her. When I returned back home, I decided to try it out as it was a cute little prayer to her that you say for 5 days before 11 am along with some other prayers. I think I said it for four days and then got distracted with day to day life. Two weeks later I had stomach pains and rushed to the hospital at 5 am. The following day, after many tests the doctors said that I had to have my appendix removed. I had however had my appendix removed in Dubai at the Belhoul Hospital in 2003. And the doctors were all puzzled by this. They decided to go in with Larsoscopy and have a look at my stomach. As it turns out the doctor in Dubai only removed half of my appendix 9 years earlier! I really thought it was the end for me, and I said a few prayers before the surgery, not to St. Therese that I can remember, just a general prayer that if something goes wrong then I should be able to go to heaven. The following day, while I was recovering the hospital room and dreaming, a sudden dream came to me and I was being ‘showered in white rose petals’ I thought wow this is incredible in my dream and then I realized it was from St. Therese. I didn’t see her only the roses but I felt it was from her. When I woke up I remembered the dream and I thought that it must have been my imagination in the dream (although it seemed to come out of nowhere). I thought it must be a dream because if it were St. Therese then the roses would be red as roses are. Two days later, I came home from the hospital and spoke to a friend about my dream, but said to him that despite the incredible feeling where it just came to me in a dream, it must have been a dream because roses are red. I then decided to look up St Therese more online to discover that her symbol is that of the white rose. I since then, feel very blessed to have had this beautiful experience and to have been touched by her. My health is back to normal and I am continuing to read about her life now. Hope this helps!
 
Hi, I thought that I would share my story with you to give you some inspiration. I recently went to Medjigorie with some friends, not being very religious myself after falling out of the church for 20 years. I ended up going to confession there and met a priest who told me that I should pray to St. Therese (whom I had never heard of). I mentioned it to my friends and they gave me as a present a little rose colored rosary with a special prayer to her. When I returned back home, I decided to try it out as it was a cute little prayer to her that you say for 5 days before 11 am along with some other prayers. I think I said it for four days and then got distracted with day to day life. Two weeks later I had stomach pains and rushed to the hospital at 5 am. The following day, after many tests the doctors said that I had to have my appendix removed. I had however had my appendix removed in Dubai at the Belhoul Hospital in 2003. And the doctors were all puzzled by this. They decided to go in with Larsoscopy and have a look at my stomach. As it turns out the doctor in Dubai only removed half of my appendix 9 years earlier! I really thought it was the end for me, and I said a few prayers before the surgery, not to St. Therese that I can remember, just a general prayer that if something goes wrong then I should be able to go to heaven. The following day, while I was recovering the hospital room and dreaming, a sudden dream came to me and I was being ‘showered in white rose petals’ I thought wow this is incredible in my dream and then I realized it was from St. Therese. I didn’t see her only the roses but I felt it was from her. When I woke up I remembered the dream and I thought that it must have been my imagination in the dream (although it seemed to come out of nowhere). I thought it must be a dream because if it were St. Therese then the roses would be red as roses are. Two days later, I came home from the hospital and spoke to a friend about my dream, but said to him that despite the incredible feeling where it just came to me in a dream, it must have been a dream because roses are red. I then decided to look up St Therese more online to discover that her symbol is that of the white rose. I since then, feel very blessed to have had this beautiful experience and to have been touched by her. My health is back to normal and I am continuing to read about her life now. Hope this helps!
My little statue of St. Therese shows her holding pink roses, and when she answered a prayer of mine, the rose, a huge one crowning the top of a bush completely devoid of leaves, was purple, the color the other roses had been when the bush had bloomed earlier in the season. I don’t think the color is important, but that you receive roses, as St. Therese had promised. You were blessed to be led by friends back to the Church. God bless.
 
I believe in St. Thérèse’s roses. I don’t think I’ve gotten a rose in my hand or on my doorstep but whenever I say a prayer to her or ask her to pray about something, roses come along my path, especially after I pray her chaplet. I try to not ask her for roses though because I don’t think we should try to get signs and make big decisions based on them. But I believe in her showers of roses. :o
 
The Lord does give us Guidance. This my be Prophetic, or through other mystical or miraculous experiences.

here’s a little parable:
A man was caught in a flood. He climed onto the roof of his house and prayed to God to save him.
A man came by in a open Canoe, and he was asked to come down and be saved but he said" No the Lord will save me"
A second boat, a Lifeboat came by, but again he refused, saying “The Lord will save me”
Next a rescue helicopter came by, and a man came down on a rope. but he was also sent away.

The man was eventually washed away in the rising waters. When he came to his Judgement he asked God why the Lord failed to save him. The Lord responded: I sent you a Canoe, A Lifeboat and a Helicopter. you refused to take any of them!

A sigh does not need to be miraculous to have come from the Lord. In the O.P.'s story I would most certainly accept that probably was the inspiration of St. Therese that led the collegue to place the red rose for her friend. If probably was a direct answer.

However:

This would constitute a “Private Revelation”. it is in no way binding on anyone other then it’s recipient. It is only binding on it’s recipient in so far as it can be discerned to be the genuine intervention of the Lord in response to the intercessions of the Saint who was prayed to.

I am not your spiritual director. I have no authority here. I have no responsibility here except in that you are my sister in Christ. But I would caution you to take this sign seriously as a significant pointer in your discernment process.

My Story.
When I was a teenager I believed I was called to the Priesthood. I spent a lot of time investigating various orders. I was very interested in the Fransiscans… & would have probably applied to the CFR if I got that far.

One year I was at the Charismatic Youth Conference in Dublin, and I was told by a woman that the Lord wanted me to know that He wanted me to have a Wife, and Children.
Initially I dismissed this. but in the following years (I don’t remember exactly when) I received the prophesy that the woman who the Lord planned for me would be someone who I would lead back to the Church, and she would lead me back to the church. This was repeated to me directly many times in the form of that little voice in my head which the Lord uses to communicate to me.
He also told me “She is not the One” when I tried to make this prophesy come true with a girlfirend I had at the end of my university career.

When I finally met my now wife, I heard a very clear “She is the one”. This led me to take that relationship seriously, and we did indeed lead eachother back to sacramental life and back to a Faithful following of Christ.

We were told my fiancée was infertile and would need a miracle to conceive. It was a difficult decision, but I held to my faith in the Lord and we married in 2008.
After much prayer, In 2010 she gave birth to a baby Boy. we named him Caoimhín (modern spelling of Comgan: the Irish Language name of Saint Kevin. The name means “Boy of Blessed Birth”)
Since then we have also had a Daughter born 4 months ago. She is to be baptised this coming Saturday. Her name is to be Aurora Níamh Maria.

The reason I tell you this is this:
Signs from the Lord do come. but you should not live your life only by them, but they can give guidance that the right or wrong choice is being fixed on.

Entering Religious life required years of carefully guided discernment. It is difficult to reach Final Vows if you do not have a genuine Vocation.
Marriage is another matter. It is very easy to say “I Do” when you shouldn’t, either because you are just not suited to marriage or not suited to the person you are marrying.

I would take this sign not as a definitive answer to your life question, but as a strong message that you should start to seriously consider the married vocation.
What would it be like for you to have a Husband. Someone to Come Home To? someone to “Have and to Hold. To Love, Honour, Serve, and Obey. For Richer, or for Poorer, In Sickness and in Health, for better or for worse, till death do you part”?
Someone to pray with? Someone to share a mission or ministry with?
Someone with whom to conceive, raise educate and evangalise your own children with?

How much of this scares the wits out of you? How much of it makes your heart melt?

Christian Marriage is a Sacrament of the same dignity as Holy Orders.

Does the Lord possibly have a man for whom you are the answer to his fervent prayers? A man who is the answer to the prayers you didn’t even know you had. With whom you can form a little community shaped for you and he alone, and into which and through which you can partake in and participate in Gods act of Creation?

I would take your Rose very seriously indeed. it should definately make you ask these questions. It should lead you into more ferverent prayer.

In more recent years I have recieved guidance from the Lord, the guidance was deliberately sought, but the answer never took the form I expected. I have many questions about my future and current ways to serve the Lord… The Lord now uses much more subtle ways to guide me. - but I’m better at listening to him (at least some of the time).

God Bless you

Ruairi
 
Just to clarify everyone, the Rose is supposed to be handed to you. Not seeing roses in gardens and walking into rooms with Roses. This is dangerous if you are looking upon these things and make life decisions based on them and it is also foolish.

A vocation should be discerned with the help of a spiritual director and allow a decision to come from talking it over with the director for at least 1 year of discernment.
 
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