How should we address people who identify as transgender?

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I know the Church’s position on people who identify or claim to be transgender is that no such transition (from male to female or female to male) is possible (even science tells us this) and that it is wrong for a person to mutilate themselves in a vain attempt to “become” the opposite sex or gender.

My question concerns how we as Catholics should treat such people. I have encountered very few people who identify as transgender, but I avoid using any pronouns at all when talking to or about them to avoid both any conflict and the potential for me to appear like I accept their “transition” as authentic which I do not.

**But does the Church provide any guidance on this issue since it can potentially be very serious? For example, refusing to call someone by their preferred pronouns or preferred new name for their “new” gender could wind up getting you into legal trouble or fired if it is deemed to constitute workplace harassment, or bullying or discrimination if you work as a teacher and have a student that identifies as transgender. I ask this as someone who in the field of education could one day face this situation of having a student in my classroom that “identifies” as the opposite sex, how should I treat such students? **

I believe this whole transgender phenomenon is essentially a mental disorder where such people assume the problem is their external appearance rather than their internal sense of their own identity. At the same time however I certainly believe such people deserve our help and compassion, especially considering such people are at higher risk of suicide and having emotional problems from this internal angst they have within themselves.

So is it absolutely wrong to indulge the use of such peoples’ preferred pronouns or preferred names in all cases? One of my concerns is of course possibly losing a job over this if the employer deems this discrimination, harassment, bullying, contrary to correct position I believe I occupy.

I’m also taking into consideration the effects taking this sort of stand might have with the person who identifies as trans; by continuing to use a name they no longer go by, and pronouns they no longer apply to themselves, I could be causing them tremendous emotional pain that could lead to self-harm or worse, despite my good intentions.

I think a similar situation might be indulging or humoring a different sort of delusion to prevent any further harm being done to a person suffering from such a delusion. Imagine the case of a schizophrenic who has such an attachment to a hallucinated person that if you were to openly deny their existence it might cause them to descend into a manic episode that just destroyed them emotionally. In such a case as this as with the transgender case, is it permissible to humor people dealing with such mental disorders or play along with their delusions to prevent any harm or outside conflict?

Thoughts appreciated.
 
I just refer to a person by the name they call themselves or something close to it (I’m getting old and sort of forgetful). I’d take a stab at the pronoun independently and use whichever one I think fits, according to me. If they want to correct me, I’d just say, “Oh” and continue on using whatever strikes me as correct.

I like the old saying about calling me anything you want, but don’t call me late for dinner.
 
I just refer to a person by the name they call themselves or something close to it (I’m getting old and sort of forgetful). I’d take a stab at the pronoun independently and use whichever one I think fits, according to me. If they want to correct me, I’d just say, “Oh” and continue on using whatever strikes me as correct.

I like the old saying about calling me anything you want, but don’t call me late for dinner.
If you do that in your personal life, you’ll lose the relationship. If you do that professionally, you’ll be fired and sued. Your system smacks of arrogance.
 
If you want to be very PC, just ask them how they want to be addressed (e.g. he, she , it , that thing). I would “assume” that they would want to be addressed in a manner consistent with their appearance. If it is in a dress and high heals it probably wants to be called “she”.
 
Use the wrong pronoun, and New York City will fine you $250,000 if you’re an employer. Look it up. Just amazing.
 
Call some one “it” is very dehumanizing and unnecessary.
So is it absolutely wrong to indulge the use of such peoples’ preferred pronouns or preferred names in all cases?
I have never understood why people think it is wrong. By not doing it you make someone else’s life more difficult and painful, but it takes nothing away from you to be respectful of how they identify.
 
Call some one “it” is very dehumanizing and unnecessary.

I have never understood why people think it is wrong. By not doing it you make someone else’s life more difficult and painful, but it takes nothing away from you to be respectful of how they identify.
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I have never understood why people think it is wrong. By not doing it you make someone else’s life more difficult and painful, but it takes nothing away from you to be respectful of how they identify.
There is the matter of affirming someone in their error.
 
If you do that in your personal life, you’ll lose the relationship. If you do that professionally, you’ll be fired and sued. Your system smacks of arrogance.
Haven’t lost any relationships. Lots 'o friends. Even LGBT. Never sued. Definitely not politically correct, but usually accurate. People appreciate honesty. You sound like a chastiser. How much does that pay per hour?
 
There is the matter of affirming someone in their error.
Error based on what? Your opinion? What makes you right determining wether someone elses identity as a man or woman is true or false? Why should it even matter to you, it is not your life? If you don’t agree or feel it is morally wrong don’t do it yourself. But from my perspective, as someone with a transsexual history and having had to endure those moral judgments from people who insisted on gendering me as they felt I should be gendered all it ever did was create a lot of hurt, for no reason. It is not for you to define who I am.

Okay, someone go ahead and pull out the Dr. McHugh articles to affirm everything you think is wrong with transgender people. It is all you really have isn’t it.
 
Error based on what? Your opinion? What makes you right determining wether someone elses identity as a man or woman is true or false? Why should it even matter to you, it is not your life? If you don’t agree or feel it is morally wrong don’t do it yourself. But from my perspective, as someone with a transsexual history and having had to endure those moral judgments from people who insisted on gendering me as they felt I should be gendered all it ever did was create a lot of hurt, for no reason. It is not for you to define who I am.

Okay, someone go ahead and pull out the Dr. McHugh articles to affirm everything you think is wrong with transgender people. It is all you really have isn’t it.
Error based upon natural law.

The only concern to me is the instance in which I must utilize a pronoun of one type or another.
If I choose incorrectly I am judged as harshly as you have just done here. And has also been noted in this thread, can get you sued.
 
If you don’t agree or feel it is morally wrong don’t do it yourself.
I appreciate the respect to my moral sensibilities.
But to truly do more then just lip service do not involve me at all in what I consider sinful behavior.
 
I guess we’re lucky that in English we don’t have a gender differentiation in the 2nd-person pronoun “you,” like what exists in Arabic (inta/inti). That differentiation carries over into both 2nd- and 3rd-person verbs.
 
Call some one “it” is very dehumanizing and unnecessary.

I have never understood why people think it is wrong. By not doing it you make someone else’s life more difficult and painful, but it takes nothing away from you to be respectful of how they identify.
You can use ‘it’ when referring to me. I identify as an AH64 attack helicopter-- so it’s all good.
 
I know the Church’s position on people who identify or claim to be transgender is that no such transition (from male to female or female to male) is possible (even science tells us this) and that it is wrong for a person to mutilate themselves in a vain attempt to “become” the opposite sex or gender.
Quite the contrary the church has been very careful to avoid taking a position on transgender people. You may be thinking a limited rulings by the CDF on cannon law regarding transgender people not on how transgender people should be interacted with.
My question concerns how we as Catholics should treat such people. I have encountered very few people who identify as transgender, but I avoid using any pronouns at all when talking to or about them to avoid both any conflict and the potential for me to appear like I accept their “transition” as authentic which I do not.
Our Catholic faith is very clear that we are to treat everyone with kindness, humility and dignity. This includes very specifically all marginalized people weather they are transgender, gay, alien, or a tax collector.
I believe this whole transgender phenomenon is essentially a mental disorder where such people assume the problem is their external appearance rather than their internal sense of their own identity.
You have a belief that is not founded in science or theology and is contrary to the world medical community. You may want to examine why you choose to believe this.
At the same time however I certainly believe such people deserve our help and compassion, especially considering such people are at higher risk of suicide and having emotional problems from this internal angst they have within themselves.
You are correct that our catholic teaching is to treat people with compassion, stick with that.
So is it absolutely wrong to indulge the use of such peoples’ preferred pronouns or preferred names in all cases?
No it is never wrong to treat others with dignity. I am transgender and every nun, priest, bishop and cardinal that I have had an interaction with has used my current name and preferred pronouns. Transgender people are accorded dignity with burials in Catholic Churches using preferred names and pronouns. Transgender people have existed since the beginning of time and only our notice of them is a recent development.
Rest assured that the person you are addressing is the best qualified person to know what their own gender is. Be blessed in treating them with the dignity that you know in your heart they deserve and do not look for a reason to deny your own humanity.
Your Sister in Christ,
Hilary
 
Our Catholic faith is very clear that we are to treat everyone with kindness, humility and dignity. This includes very specifically all marginalized people weather they are transgender, gay, alien, or a tax collector.
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Quite the contrary the church has been very careful to avoid taking a position on transgender people. You may be thinking a limited rulings by the CDF on cannon law regarding transgender people not on how transgender people should be interacted with.

Our Catholic faith is very clear that we are to treat everyone with kindness, humility and dignity. This includes very specifically all marginalized people weather they are transgender, gay, alien, or a tax collector.

You have a belief that is not founded in science or theology and is contrary to the world medical community. You may want to examine why you choose to believe this.

You are correct that our catholic teaching is to treat people with compassion, stick with that.

No it is never wrong to treat others with dignity. I am transgender and every nun, priest, bishop and cardinal that I have had an interaction with has used my current name and preferred pronouns. Transgender people are accorded dignity with burials in Catholic Churches using preferred names and pronouns. Transgender people have existed since the beginning of time and only our notice of them is a recent development.
Rest assured that the person you are addressing is the best qualified person to know what their own gender is. Be blessed in treating them with the dignity that you know in your heart they deserve and do not look for a reason to deny your own humanity.
Your Sister in Christ,
Hilary
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Be blessed in treating them with the dignity that you know in your heart they deserve and do not look for a reason to deny your own humanity.
Your Sister in Christ,
Hilary
This is beautiful advice, thank you. Happy New Year Hilary!
 
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