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7_Sorrows
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but being that she is CoE she should have felt “at home” in the ordinariate. no?
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OraLabora
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The existence of the Ordinariate angers some Anglicans. Familiar liturgy doesn’t fix that.
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Peebo
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Our parish has an 8pm vigil mass then a midnight mass…we attended the 8pm mass…we got there 45 mins early…it was packed about 15 mins before 8pm…what was disappointing to see was the number of people who after taking the Eucharist walked out of the service…wonder if they were those Cafeteria Catholics who only attend Christmas and Easter…which brings up an interesting question…deliberately missing mass is considered a sin I believe…yet on those days you see many people who you don’t see the rest of the year…even our priest commented on such a good crowd…so I wonder how many went to confession before mass
…I know I shouldn’t judge but it seems like many of them just can’t wait to get it over and done with so they can leave
…I know I shouldn’t judge but it seems like many of them just can’t wait to get it over and done with so they can leave
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7_Sorrows
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I am surprised that Anglicans or Episcopalians in the U. S. would be angered by the existence of the Ordinariate.
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OraLabora
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Some see it as divisive. Imagine if you as. Catholic belonged to the same parish all your life and your priest announced he was taking your parish to a denomination not in communion with Rome? I know I’d be upset!
I’m not against either the Ordinariate or Anglicans swimming the Tiber, but we need to be sensitive to the fact that such moves can cause hurt feelings.
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7_Sorrows
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but the ordinariate is in communion with Rome. they should see it as the spiritual journey their fellow Anglicans or Episcopalians are being called by God to take. what about the hurt feelings of those in the Anglican or Episcopal churches who have had to watch their church support female priesthood, female bishops, homosexual priests and bishops and SSM? that was divisive. the Ordinariate offers these people a place to worship when they have felt betrayed by their church.
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ProVobis
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I think Ora’s point was that there is a perceived break from your own religious affiliation. And it’s a fair point in my opinion. Suddenly one attending the same church is supposed to forced to make a choice because his priest or bishop has made one. That is often not considered.
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7_Sorrows
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but whole congregations joining is rare isn’t it? and it works both ways. I think this is off topic from this thread, but it would be an interesting thread on its own.
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ProVobis
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I’m glad you see that. And I agree that it would be an interesting thread to consider one’s benefactors and congregation when “converting” to a different faith or even order within the same affiliation. It could indeed spark some interest.
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MissRose73
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When I went to a midnight Mass at the cathedral in Detroit years ago, I got there an hour early to ensure decent parking & a seat. The place filled fast for sure. I’ve not gone to a midnight Mass since as I can’t stay up that late.
I go normally to an early evening Mass on Xmas Eve. Normally, my mother do some type of liturgical ministry. My dad will arrive about 30 minutes before Mass starts not the hour before my mother does if she is a greeter (as the greeters/ushers must be there 1 hour early). My mother will mark our seats with her coat and offering envelope (only 3 seats)
I go normally to an early evening Mass on Xmas Eve. Normally, my mother do some type of liturgical ministry. My dad will arrive about 30 minutes before Mass starts not the hour before my mother does if she is a greeter (as the greeters/ushers must be there 1 hour early). My mother will mark our seats with her coat and offering envelope (only 3 seats)
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CyrilSebastian
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When I have been an altar server at Midnight Mass at the local church, some of the congregation arrived at eleven o’clock or shortly after.
The organist would play hymns. At twelve midnight O Holy Night would be splendidly sung by the cantor.
The organist would play hymns. At twelve midnight O Holy Night would be splendidly sung by the cantor.
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Kelly77
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You should arrive ny 11pm if you want a seat. You will invariably see a rare sighting- the holiday catholic-- which results in limited seating.
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Trident_H
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Um. If you’re still checking this thread there’s something you should probably know by now.
You ah.
You sort of missed Christmas.
Sorry about that.
You ah.
You sort of missed Christmas.
Sorry about that.
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OraLabora
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In charity, the “holiday Catholic” would also include devout Catholics from other parishes and dioceses visiting family.
Also, that “holiday Catholic” may be a future devout Catholic. It behooves us to show them a warm welcome and without labels lest the loss of a soul be on our own conscience. That would be the true spirit of a Christian welcome.
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otjm
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That!
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otjm
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I arrived at our local Trappist abbey a bit before 10:30; at about 11 the monks started to Office. Mass started at midnight, and Abbot Peter gave a homily which reminded me of one I had heard decades earlier, by then Abbot Bernard (in his wonderful Boston accent), which was a juxtaposition of the Christ child, and our penchant for nuclear weapons.
Abbot Peter had a theme of the dark night; both of Christ’s birth, and the darkness of the present age.
It will give me something to chew on for a few more weeks.
Abbot Peter had a theme of the dark night; both of Christ’s birth, and the darkness of the present age.
It will give me something to chew on for a few more weeks.
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