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meltzerboy2
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No, we weren’t all the same. But I think we must admit that our youth generation got the ball rolling for sure in so many ways.
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MagdalenaRita
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Not all boomers or those of that era fell into that lifestyle. I agree many did but not all.
I am a very young boomer, kind of right on the tail end and I have family members older than I who never entered into the hippie movement of sex, drugs and rock and roll.
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meltzerboy2
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How old was your professor?
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meltzerboy2
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The genie is out of the bottle for quite a while now and won’t return any time soon. In fact, he has been fruitful and multiplied many times over.
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JMMJ
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It is unfortunate that some live real lives of fear over this issue. I don’t believe it is a mistake that we live in the times we do. I choose not to live in fear over the concept of moral decay in society. Every society since the beginning of time has had its issues, and we are no different. I choose to look at the wonderful things in life and celebrate them and not let them be tarnished by the issues some seem so tormented by in this thread.
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SteelArchangel
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What professor?
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meltzerboy2
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The professor of the sociology course you took.
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LateranBasilica
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This was going on during the time frame of both world wars. Talk to those who were young adults at the time and going off to war. We cannot blame the 60s for everything. One of my fondest memories of talking to a woman who lived through a world war was her candid honesty, I quote
‘you think we were all well behaved, we were not. We were facing the potential loss of our lives and those of our peers, we made hay while the sun shone’
‘you think we were all well behaved, we were not. We were facing the potential loss of our lives and those of our peers, we made hay while the sun shone’
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SteelArchangel
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Oh, right. Yeah that class was a goner. Chapters on transexuals, homosexual family dynamics, queer theory, and how the patriarchy is basically a cancer. Majority of the young women in the class seemed to demand graduate degrees and high profile careers before families were even considered. The professor herself was a heavyset divorcee who actually left her husband for another woman.
FYI this was a public state, university where such a class occurred.
FYI this was a public state, university where such a class occurred.
Emeraldlady
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And it follows that the old structures of Catholic education regarding sexual morality which in effect amounted to “it’s a sin just because the Church says so” is not going to convert the young today.
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Thorolfr
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Is there something wrong with being heavyset and did her weight have some bearing on your opinion of the class? Would you have liked the class more if she had been a thin divorcee?
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Bradskii
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This I don’t get. I’m as Baby Boomer as you can be. Sex, drugs and music that youngsters appreciated more than their parents (quaintly referred to in some posts as rock and roll) have always been around. It’s the catch cry of every older generation: Kids these days! It’s almost a rite of passage to discard a lot of what your parents held to be true.
That was true when I was growing up and is true now. It was true when my parents were growing up and will be true long after I am dead and gone. But does that mean you lose all connections with your children? Nonsense.
They can learn or be taught a lot outside the family home. But the responsibility of the parents to ensure that their children grow up as responsible adults doesn’t change. Teach them responsibility. Teach them morality. Teach them the differerence between right and wrong. Teach them to question authority. Teach them of the dangers facing them. And teach them to make up their own minds about it all.
In the meantime, do your best to keep them safe and let them know you will always be there for them shoukd they fall.
Sex, drugs and rock and roll? Gee, Ed. Guilty as charged. And I’m probably older than you.
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Bradskii
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I’ll bet she wore no make-up and had cropped hair as well. How’s your weight, Steel?SteelArchangel:
Is there something wrong with being heavyset and did her weight have some bearing on your opinion of the class? Would you have liked the class more if she had been a thin divorcee?
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SteelArchangel
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Yes because I remember in particular a set on more fat acceptance, which is controversial to a lot of people. Sure people need to have self esteem and confidence, but medically plummeting your body at the sake of poor willpower by the hands of brainwashed agendas is another matter. No, I would not have cared if she were a thin divorcee either and her appearance did not add/take away from the course, but I remember vividly her almost screeching about “big is beautiful”.
I had a thin, athletic professor the next semester for a “required English elective” course. In a lot of ways she was more pozzed than the sociology professor. It’s the only course I remember where she told us all upfront Day One-ish, that homosexuals in her classes will be accepted no matter what and if you were against abortion you may wish to seek another course. This played later on examining pro-choice articles for review. Mind you this is a public state university…
I had a thin, athletic professor the next semester for a “required English elective” course. In a lot of ways she was more pozzed than the sociology professor. It’s the only course I remember where she told us all upfront Day One-ish, that homosexuals in her classes will be accepted no matter what and if you were against abortion you may wish to seek another course. This played later on examining pro-choice articles for review. Mind you this is a public state university…
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JimG
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Yes, if the AIDS epidemic, the multiplication of STD’s, the devastation of divorce, family collapse, fatherless children, feminization of poverty, normalization of abortion, and explosion of porn hasn’t convinced them, probably mere moral standards won’t convince them either.
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Pattylt
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As a rock solid boomer myself, I’m fascinated at what happened in the 60’s. From my point of view, the biggest change was a loss of trust in authorities, from political leaders, teachers, preachers, journalists and parents. We felt so lied to. The Nixon scandal, Vietnam being the biggest examples.
Loss of trust left us seeking other “truths”. Plenty of them were wrong and some of them were needed. In general, we became skeptical of all we were told which resulted in testing every previous “truth”. We often felt like we were trying to figure out what morality and civil living meant from scratch as we really didn’t trust anyone over 30.
And here we are.
Loss of trust left us seeking other “truths”. Plenty of them were wrong and some of them were needed. In general, we became skeptical of all we were told which resulted in testing every previous “truth”. We often felt like we were trying to figure out what morality and civil living meant from scratch as we really didn’t trust anyone over 30.
And here we are.
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MagdalenaRita
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I would definitely agree with this.
I think too all the conspiracy theories that went around after JFK’s shooting. We probably also need to include the influence of the motion picture industry and the music industry, both of which heavily encouraged rebellion against family and definitely promoted the sexual revolution.
I had also read that 1962 was the first year more youth went to college rather than staying home and helping on the family farm or with the family business, so you definitely have the socialist influence that Bella Dodd talked about.
It seems like patriotism and morality died and was replace with one of the biggest rebellions of youth. , rebellion against God, the Catholic church, morality, family, parents, and any other authority.
There were warnings in the early part of the 60’s, from counselors and youth workers, that there was an anger and a rebellion brewing among the youth but many did not believe it.
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Bradskii
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I think it would be better to get one’s own house in order before casting aspertions. Unless, of course, you are including Catholics in divorce and abortion and…what was it…? Feminisation of poverty? Good grief.Emeraldlady:
Yes, if the AIDS epidemic, the multiplication of STD’s, the devastation of divorce, family collapse, fatherless children, feminization of poverty, normalization of abortion, and explosion of porn hasn’t convinced them, probably mere moral standards won’t convince them either.
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edwest211
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An unusual response. The faithful remnant lives among people who set themselves outside of certain boundaries. Their goal is not to irritate others but to live life as close to Catholic teaching as possible and to be able to determine with precision, betwen the false and misleading statements being spread among the people and truth. Some people are heavily invested in promoting their choices and beliefs even if they do not consider themselves religious. And some people actively argue for the changes they want, and some argue for the sake of argument. These are general truths that are directed to all reading, not just one particular person. I heard the following from a faithful Christian: “I don’t want to be deceived.”
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