How there could be more than one Mind?

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GEddie said:
And decisions come into conflict all the time. It’s natural.
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You didn’t get what I meant. I meant that being cannot act in a given situation accepting that there are more than one Mind because there is a tension in decision made with more than one Mind.
 
Bahman said:
You didn’t get what I meant. I meant that being cannot act in a given situation accepting that there are more than one Mind because there is a tension in decision made with more than one Mind.
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“Being” doesn’t act. **Beings **do.
 
GEddie said:
“Being” doesn’t act. **Beings **do.
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Did you get what I mean?

Being cannot do anything in a given situation accepting that there are more than one Mind because there is a tension in decisions made with more than one Mind.
 
Again. “Being” is an attribute.

I think we are not using the same terms and there is no point in going on.

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Anthony_V said:
Because what is the minimal model? The combination of “mind” and “mental state”? Or just “mind”? Or maybe just “mental state”? You’re simply proposing things here, and not backing up your answers. Here’s a summary of what’s happened so far:
  1. You proposed that mind is A and mental state is B.
  2. I asked why mind and mental state must be A and B.
  3. You replied that mind is A and mental state is B because that’s the minimal way they must be.
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Let me to explain myself better. We know by fact that we as human beings experience, decide and act in any given situation. I defined mental state as what we experience and act upon. I define Mind as the essence of everything that allows experience, decision and act.
Anthony_V said:
I’m sorry, but that tells me nothing. I can’t read your mind – a fact which itself might be problematic for you to explain. You must demonstrate that A and B logically entails “minimal model.”
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This is the minimal model because we only have one Mind and mental states.
Anthony_V said:
May I suggest the following, syllogistic form:

Mind and mental state are X.
X is a minimal model.
Therefore, mind and mental state are a minimal model.
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That is not what I am suggesting. I suggest that we have two components in reality namely, Mind and mental states.
Anthony_V said:
May I suggest the following, syllogistic form:

Everything which surrounds us is H.
H is simply mental state.
Therefore, everything which surrounds us is simply mental state.
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You are not adding anything here.
Anthony_V said:
Another interesting claim for you to demonstrate.
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One mind allows the experience and act as it is illustrated earlier.
Anthony_V said:
Another interesting claim for you to demonstrate.
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What is claimed is that we need only one Mind to explain reality since there is a tension in decisions if we have more than one Mind.
Anthony_V said:
I’m not sure I know this fact.
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You know this in every moment of your life.
Anthony_V said:
May I suggest the following syllogistic form:

Any possible situation is J.
Experiencing, deciding, and acting is J.
Therefore, any possible situation entails experiencing, deciding, and acting.
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You are not adding anything.
Anthony_V said:
This begs the question. You haven’t demonstrated that mind doesn’t have any location.
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Mind by my definition is a spiritual thing hence it cannot have any location.
Anthony_V said:
And neither have you demonstrated that experience and act are local phenomena. (Not that I don’t believe they are local phenomena; but what I believe is irrelevant to your demonstration’s validity.)
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I don’t understand you. Don’t you act and experience locally?
Anthony_V said:
Please demonstrate that mind has such a power.
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This is the part of the model I suggested. I cannot really help you more.
 
Bahman said:
I don’t understand how your comment is related to OP.🤷
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One Supreme Mind, comprised of three divine persons, relational in nature has created a myriad of minds, beings, persons, also relational in nature, that we might commune eternally, in perfect relation - love.
 
Bahman said:
What you stated are a set of claims. I am instead presenting a model of reality. I am not claiming but arguing by facts. It seems to me that you didn’t understand my model, otherwise you didn’t ask for a miracle! What is the use of miracle when an argument sounds well.
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What is the use of an argument when a miracle is stone proof evidence

No Messiah came to earth to spread concrete miracles until the end of time, and spread your crazy ideas that Satan and God are the same mind and one person,
 
Bahman, all you are using is language to state opinions,

Catholic Exorcists cast out demons and Jesus fights through them,

The Catholic charismatic renewal also has the healing ministry where Jesus literally heals people of all kinds of diseases.

There have been over 300 instances in history of the Eucharistic turning into actual flesh and blood of a man, of Jesus Himself.

Mine are not claims, scientists have proved the blood of two Eucharistic miracles in Italy that happened 500 years are apart, are both incorruptible, are blood type Ab of the same man, are of the heart tissue. And blood type Ab was found on the Shroud of Turin also. As well as pollen dating.the Shroud to Jerusalem at 32Ad.
These are not claims but facts.

You only have weird opinions and no evidence. You don’t have any facts.

Catholicism is backed up by the mighty hand of God working miracles on earth.

Your self invented religion based around your opinions and words has No God of miracles, providing any evidence.

Jesus even said in the Bible,
“The Cross is folly for those who don’t believe.”
“God came to scatter the mighty in their arrogance.
God came to reveal His wisdom not to the learned but to mere children.”
 
Aloysium said:
One Supreme Mind, comprised of three divine persons, relational in nature has created a myriad of minds, beings, persons, also relational in nature, that we might commune eternally, in perfect relation - love.
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That is not related to the question in OP. That is simply your belief.
 
MaryHelp777 said:
What is the use of an argument when a miracle is stone proof evidence.
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We are rational beings. We don’t need miracle to accept a fact. We know that even Devils can perform miracles so why we should believe in a system of belief then?
MaryHelp777 said:
No Messiah came to earth to spread concrete miracles until the end of time, and spread your crazy ideas that Satan and God are the same mind and one person.
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This is clear to me now that you didn’t get the idea in OP. Satan and God are different person but they share the same Mind.
 
MaryHelp777 said:
Bahman, all you are using is language to state opinions,

Catholic Exorcists cast out demons and Jesus fights through them,

The Catholic charismatic renewal also has the healing ministry where Jesus literally heals people of all kinds of diseases.

There have been over 300 instances in history of the Eucharistic turning into actual flesh and blood of a man, of Jesus Himself.

Mine are not claims, scientists have proved the blood of two Eucharistic miracles in Italy that happened 500 years are apart, are both incorruptible, are blood type Ab of the same man, are of the heart tissue. And blood type Ab was found on the Shroud of Turin also. As well as pollen dating.the Shroud to Jerusalem at 32Ad.
These are not claims but facts.

You only have weird opinions and no evidence. You don’t have any facts.

Catholicism is backed up by the mighty hand of God working miracles on earth.

Your self invented religion based around your opinions and words has No God of miracles, providing any evidence.

Jesus even said in the Bible,
“The Cross is folly for those who don’t believe.”
“God came to scatter the mighty in their arrogance.
God came to reveal His wisdom not to the learned but to mere children.”
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That is clear for me now that you didn’t understand the idea behind OP. What do you said in this post does not provide anything meaningful in regards to OP. What I presented is a simple model which could describe reality. It is no an opinion.
 
Bahman said:
It is possible. English is not my first language.
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I thought as much.

In which case, intricate description of how minds work is unlikely to bear fruit until you are more facile in English, or someone can take you on in your native language.

ICXC NIKA
 
Bahman said:
That is not related to the question in OP. That is simply your belief.
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Actually, it has everything to do with the OP since it addresses the nature of the One Supreme Mind, which brings everything, including many minds, into existence. To you it is but one of many beliefs out there. To Catholics it is the truth, which cannot be known other than by revelation, and which was revealed through the incarnation, the teachings, the life and death of Jesus Christ, who established His church on earth and left us with the Holy Spirit to guide us. Once understood, the Trinity makes sense of much that is otherwise intellectually impenetrable.
 
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