How to counter the LGBT/leftist onslaught?

[jcrichton]

Hi. I’m coming in late to this thread.

Same-sex-marriage is kind of an academic question in 2017, but regardless … my opposition to it was never a matter of telling them that they couldn’t do it; it was a matter of my right to believe that SSM is not true marriage.

Hi, Peter!

…this is exactly what is lacking in the understanding of “feel good” Christians… they actually blame the Church for pushing up against “liberties” and “rights” while ignoring that the Church has to push against sin and unrighteousness.

…for the past few decades there has been a struggle where the Church has voiced her rejection of abortion and homosexuality; yet, abortionists and the factions that have supported them (government, enterprise, and the “feel good” Christians) have pushed forward with their culture of death trampling all who do not capitulate (reminds me of the Muslim conversion tactics); ditto with the homosexual agenda and their members and supporters… it got so bad that Nuns were suit by the government and fined a million dollars per day for each count against the death culture’s mandates–could you imagine if the Church had remained silent?

…the first order of the day would be to chastise the Church for not teaching that abortion and homosexuality is against God’s Commandments… and the pundits would have field day after field day of “showing” how the Church just invented these teachings–just as they have tried to insinuate that the Church never taught about the Sacrament of Marriage… this in spite of recorded evidence that contradicts such thoughts:

Marriage in the Catholic Church, also called matrimony, is the "covenant by which a man and a woman establish between themselves a partnership (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_the_Catholic_Church#Early_period

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It is one thing for Christians to be forced to coexist with evil, but quite a different thing for Christians to remain silent while evil surrounds and conquers the world:

23 Then to all he said, ‘If anyone wants to be a follower of mine, let him renounce himself and take up his cross every day and follow me. 24 For anyone who wants to save his life will lose it; but anyone who loses his life for my sake, that man will save it. 25 What gain, then, is it for a man to have won the whole world and to have lost or ruined his very self? 26 For if anyone is ashamed of me and of my words, of him the Son of Man will be ashamed when he comes in his own glory and in the glory of the Father and the holy angels.

(St. Luke 9:23-26)

27 What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops. 28 ‘Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; fear him rather who can destroy both body and soul in hell. 29 Can you not buy two sparrows for a penny? And yet not one falls to the ground without your Father knowing. 30 Why, every hair on your head has been counted. 31 So there is no need to be afraid; you are worth more than hundreds of sparrows. 32 ‘So if anyone declares himself for me in the presence of men, I will declare myself for him in the presence of my Father in heaven. 33 But the one who disowns me in the presence of men, I will disown in the presence of my Father in heaven. (St. Matthew 10:27-33)
…this Battle began in Genesis 3:15!

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[jcrichton]

No one has taken away this right from you. even if you are required to issue marriage licenses as per your job description it most certainly doesn’t automatically mean you approve of and accept this marriage as a true one.

Hi, Otar!

…you are missing the who battle; it is not about rights it is about enforcing a law to force Christians to not only accept but take part in the homosexual’s and abortionist’s mandate: the Church (and all of Christianity) must abet their behavior.

…if there are hundreds of non-Christian businesses around, why must homosexuals demand that a known Christian business cater their functions?

…if there are hundreds of adoption agencies in the world, why must homosexuals seek to adopt from Catholic adoption agencies?

…if the state grants marriage licenses, why must homosexuals demand that the Church grants them the Sacrament of Marriage?

…and this double dealing works its way into every fiber of society… remember that actor who was black listed because he made a joke, while backstage, about a homosexual thing? Do you recall how he was forced to apologize to the homosexual community on national television?

…and at a later period, do you recall how a homosexual kissed an actor who purported to not being a homosexual right on national television? Was the homosexual community forced to apologize for this incident which happened in plain view?

…how does forcing Christians and other non-homosexuals to capitulate to homosexual mandates, like the gender fluidity where the *sensibilities *of these poor misunderstood people are forced to use a bathroom labeled under the sex to which they were born or that they cannot accept the creation of a third bathroom labeled “xyz” sex, not be an assault to Christians and those who do not agree with the homosexual agenda?

Again, it is not about reason or rights or civil liberties; rather, these mandates predicate on Gestapo and NKVD modus operandi.

…as that movie waned: “Something (more) Wicked This Way Comes.”

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[jcrichton]

Very good words and suggestions, Angel - thank you.

Yes, exactly, And it is scary because there is a big price to pay for that kind of one-hand-washes-another sort of thing. We have been having it good, but it’s a false peace. The social gospel wants us to go-along to get-along, But this creates disharmony after a while, because Christians are supposed to be teaching the truth to the world, not just live and let live. When evil is not corrected, then it grows stronger.

Hi, Reggie!

…now, note the warnings to the sentry (Ezekiel 33) it is not that he is responsible for the physical rescue of the fold; it is that he is responsible to sound the alert! Each person is responsible for his/her own Spiritual Safety; but Christians must sound the alarm about the path that leads to destruction.

…becoming a friend to the world does not facilitate the job of the sentinel (sentry); rather, it serves to blur the vision:

11 ‘Happy are you when people abuse you and persecute you and speak all kinds of calumny against you on my account. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward will be great in heaven; this is how they persecuted the prophets before you. 13 ‘You are the salt of the earth. But if salt becomes tasteless, what can make it salty again? It is good for nothing, and can only be thrown out to be trampled underfoot by men. 14 ‘You are the light of the world. A city built on a hill-top cannot be hidden. 15 No one lights a lamp to put it under a tub; they put it on the lamp-stand where it shines for everyone in the house. 16 In the same way your light must shine in the sight of men, so that, seeing your good works, they may give the praise to your Father in heaven.

(St. Matthew 5:11-16)
I cannot join an alcoholic/drug addict on his/her quest to enhancement through drugs in order to “save” him/her from the dangers of the addiction… neither can I enable such behavior… I must remain free from substance abuse in order to help him/her out of his/her dependency!

So if the salt and light of the world gets blurred into obscurity, what does it profit the sentry or the people he/she was meant to keep Safe?

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[Peter_J]

No one has taken away this right from you. even if you are required to issue marriage licenses as per your job description it most certainly doesn’t automatically mean you approve of and accept this marriage as a true one.

Thanks for the response, and you’re right I *don’t *approve of and accept such marriage as a true one. But the point is that the government says that it is.

 

[mkoopman]

Thanks for the response, and you’re right I *don’t *approve of and accept such marriage as a true one. But the point is that the government says that it is.

Of course it is stiche, “in 2017,” at least let us pray and hope so. So what do you do when the state tells you that Jews are non-persons? Just accept it and move along with the herd as Pharoah and the task masters make it so?

Perhaps all Hebrew unborn should be declared persons and a special class to make up for the errors of the past? We could only murder Gentile unborn persons, instead.

 

[Peter_J]

Of course it is stiche, “in 2017,” at least let us pray and hope so. So what do you do when the state tells you that Jews are non-persons? Just accept it and move along with the herd as Pharoah and the task masters make it so?

Perhaps all Hebrew unborn should be declared persons and a special class to make up for the errors of the past? We could only murder Gentile unborn persons, instead.

Was anyone in your family killed in the Holocaust?

 

[mkoopman]

Was anyone in your family killed in the Holocaust?

Difficult answer as in to mean before Victory in Europe I would need to say, no. As for after the war ended and related to prosecution of war criminals responsible, yes. So you decide how that applies.

Funny thing is same thing after WW I, also. Accident reporting can be the finer art of Perestroika. Dig deeper and find the missing oil drums, truly. America the Beautiful, Holmes.

 

[edwest2]

First, this did not start yesterday. It took decades to reach this point. Decades of being slowly poisoned by a media that even as I write this, is presenting Homosexual behavior as no big deal. Yet too many leave the Church building and are back in the world and consume the poison in movies, on TV and in other media. We must say NO each and every time these things are defended. The Left has taken over the media and listen to the LGBT groups that imagine that Catholics are their primary obstacle. We have been lied to for DECADES.

As a priest/apologist wrote here: “Gay marriage is impossible.”

The Church tells us more here: "Where the government’s policy is de facto tolerance and there is no explicit legal recognition of homosexual unions, it is necessary to distinguish carefully the various aspects of the problem. Moral conscience requires that, in every occasion, Christians give witness to the whole moral truth, which is contradicted both by approval of homosexual acts and unjust discrimination against homosexual persons. Therefore, discreet and prudent actions can be effective; these might involve: unmasking the way in which such tolerance might be exploited or used in the service of ideology; stating clearly the immoral nature of these unions; reminding the government of the need to contain the phenomenon within certain limits so as to safeguard public morality and, above all, to avoid exposing young people to erroneous ideas about sexuality and marriage that would deprive them of their necessary defences and contribute to the spread of the phenomenon. Those who would move from tolerance to the legitimization of specific rights for cohabiting homosexual persons need to be reminded that the approval or legalization of evil is something far different from the toleration of evil.

“In those situations where homosexual unions have been legally recognized or have been given the legal status and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition is a duty. One must refrain from any kind of formal cooperation in the enactment or application of such gravely unjust laws and, as far as possible, from material cooperation on the level of their application. In this area, everyone can exercise the right to conscientious objection.”

Full document here: vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20030731_homosexual-unions_en.html

Our stance must be that all human beings are loved by God and are persons. We are talking about legalizing and promoting sexual behaviors that violate human biology and in some cases, rationality. Of course these behaviors have existed for a long time but now the goal is to turn reality into a sexual fantasy world. Like being able to choose your own gender.

Pope Francis:

catholicherald.co.uk/news/2016/08/03/pope-francis-its-terrible-children-taught-they-can-choose-gender/

Our children are at risk by those who want to exploit young minds that are not mature enough to grasp what they are being told or given to read.

abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1230620

Regarding abortion, here’s how it was done, with the Catholic Church as the primary obstacle:

catholicnewsagency.com/resources/abortion/articles-and-addresses/an-ex-abortionist-speaks/

That started in 1969 and by 1972, I saw a lady on TV try to convince us that abortion was OK. In 1973, the US Supreme Court allowed for the deaths of millions to come. Jane Roe’s real name was Norma McCorvey. She never got an abortion. She became pro-life.

continued…

 

[edwest2]

First, as individuals and groups, we must get together and work together. I have read about Catholic parish groups that have gone door to door to evangelize. Next, we need something we can give people, like pamphlets.

shop.catholic.com/pamphlets/chastity/chastity-tract-homosexuality-is-the-church-unfair-pack-of-50.html

There are sincere borderline and otherwise committed Catholics who think creating alternative families is none of their concern. But what’s being preached by the media and to kids in school is accepting invented reality - not actual reality.

Next, read Catholic media:

ncregister.com/

osv.com/

The goal is not to create a political organization but to stand for the truth - always.

2 Timothy 4:2

New International Version
“Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage–with great patience and careful instruction.”

New Living Translation
“Preach the word of God. Be prepared, whether the time is favorable or not. Patiently correct, rebuke, and encourage your people with good teaching.”

English Standard Version
“preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.”

Berean Study Bible
“Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and encourage with every form of patient instruction.”

Even though we have Christ in our lives, the Bible tells us to encourage one another. Take that first step. Find like-minded Catholics. Do what you can. Even if it’s just posting here.

1 Corinthians 14:8

New International Version
“Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle?”

New Living Translation
“And if the bugler doesn’t sound a clear call, how will the soldiers know they are being called to battle?”

English Standard Version
“And if the bugle gives an indistinct sound, who will get ready for battle?”

Berean Study Bible
“Again, if the trumpet sounds a muffled call, who will prepare for battle?”

Berean Literal Bible
“And indeed if the trumpet gives an indistinct sound, who will prepare himself for battle?”

New American Standard Bible
“For if the bugle produces an indistinct sound, who will prepare himself for battle?”

Speak up, clearly, patiently. Act to the degree you can. The truth will set you free and you can set others free.

Ed

 

[Otar_Mendes]

Ah, good old anti-human,anti-science, anti-Nature, anti-human rights and freedoms, anti-Constitution and anti-UNiversal Declaration of Human Rights edwest propaganda

Do continue , please.It’s always a fun read.

PS speaking of "rationality’ coming from a believer is hilarious though.

While reading all thisand what dear edwest wants our society to degrade to, we, people of the Earth, will never forget for a second that Judeo-Christian god issued a direct order to kill gay people. We will never forget for a second about Nazi persecution of innocent, normal gay people by Christians that lasted for more than thousand years- burning alive, executions, prisons, loony bins and other subtle persecution that only lessened with the downfall of the Christian ideology and how it affected the minds of people and the local laws.

 

[Dorothy]

First, as individuals and groups, we must get together and work together. I have read about Catholic parish groups that have gone door to door to evangelize. Next, we need something we can give people, like pamphlets.

shop.catholic.com/pamphlets/chastity/chastity-tract-homosexuality-is-the-church-unfair-pack-of-50.html

There are sincere borderline and otherwise committed Catholics who think creating alternative families is none of their concern. But what’s being preached by the media and to kids in school is accepting invented reality - not actual reality.

Next, read Catholic media:

ncregister.com/

osv.com/

The goal is not to create a political organization but to stand for the truth - always.

2 Timothy 4:2

New International Version
“Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage–with great patience and careful instruction.”

New Living Translation
“Preach the word of God. Be prepared, whether the time is favorable or not. Patiently correct, rebuke, and encourage your people with good teaching.”

English Standard Version
“preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.”

Berean Study Bible
“Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and encourage with every form of patient instruction.”

Even though we have Christ in our lives, the Bible tells us to encourage one another. Take that first step. Find like-minded Catholics. Do what you can. Even if it’s just posting here.

1 Corinthians 14:8

New International Version
“Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle?”

New Living Translation
“And if the bugler doesn’t sound a clear call, how will the soldiers know they are being called to battle?”

English Standard Version
“And if the bugle gives an indistinct sound, who will get ready for battle?”

Berean Study Bible
“Again, if the trumpet sounds a muffled call, who will prepare for battle?”

Berean Literal Bible
“And indeed if the trumpet gives an indistinct sound, who will prepare himself for battle?”

New American Standard Bible
“For if the bugle produces an indistinct sound, who will prepare himself for battle?”

Speak up, clearly, patiently. Act to the degree you can. The truth will set you free and you can set others free.

Ed

Edwest,

Thank you for this excellent post.

And, let us all remember to pray for our enemies.

 

[jcrichton]

Of course it is stiche, “in 2017,” at least let us pray and hope so. So what do you do when the state tells you that Jews are non-persons? Just accept it and move along with the herd as Pharoah and the task masters make it so?

Perhaps all Hebrew unborn should be declared persons and a special class to make up for the errors of the past? We could only murder Gentile unborn persons, instead.

Hi, M!

…could you clarify that?

…I know the Obama presidency refused to officially acknowledge Israel for many months… and that a third person had to voice the US’s continued support and commitment to Israel after all of the silence from the White House drove the sign of “open season on Israel,” to the Middle East and the world…

…but even from the Muslims I’ve never heard of “non-person” claims; the closest is that thing that is purported to be stated in their holy book that the “infidels” (specially Jews and Americans) are only worth half of a Muslin (which demonstrates why in any place where they hold power people who do not convert will soon come under exploitation, oppression, terrorism, and death)–if I remember correctly, this was even included in the textbooks which they use to train elementary children right here in the good ole US of A: 1 M = 2 of them (this latter info was revealed by a documentary done about the Muslim experience in the US–mostly directed at second generation/young Muslims in the US.

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[jcrichton]

First, this did not start yesterday. It took decades to reach this point. Decades of being slowly poisoned by a media that even as I write this, is presenting Homosexual behavior as no big deal. Yet too many leave the Church building and are back in the world and consume the poison in movies, on TV and in other media. We must say NO each and every time these things are defended. The Left has taken over the media and listen to the LGBT groups that imagine that Catholics are their primary obstacle. We have been lied to for DECADES.

As a priest/apologist wrote here: “Gay marriage is impossible.”

The Church tells us more here: "Where the government’s policy is de facto tolerance and there is no explicit legal recognition of homosexual unions, it is necessary to distinguish carefully the various aspects of the problem. Moral conscience requires that, in every occasion, Christians give witness to the whole moral truth, which is contradicted both by approval of homosexual acts and unjust discrimination against homosexual persons. Therefore, discreet and prudent actions can be effective; these might involve: unmasking the way in which such tolerance might be exploited or used in the service of ideology; stating clearly the immoral nature of these unions; reminding the government of the need to contain the phenomenon within certain limits so as to safeguard public morality and, above all, to avoid exposing young people to erroneous ideas about sexuality and marriage that would deprive them of their necessary defences and contribute to the spread of the phenomenon. Those who would move from tolerance to the legitimization of specific rights for cohabiting homosexual persons need to be reminded that the approval or legalization of evil is something far different from the toleration of evil.

“In those situations where homosexual unions have been legally recognized or have been given the legal status and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition is a duty. One must refrain from any kind of formal cooperation in the enactment or application of such gravely unjust laws and, as far as possible, from material cooperation on the level of their application. In this area, everyone can exercise the right to conscientious objection.”

Full document here: vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20030731_homosexual-unions_en.html

Our stance must be that all human beings are loved by God and are persons. We are talking about legalizing and promoting sexual behaviors that violate human biology and in some cases, rationality. Of course these behaviors have existed for a long time but now the goal is to turn reality into a sexual fantasy world. Like being able to choose your own gender.
Pope Francis:

catholicherald.co.uk/news/2016/08/03/pope-francis-its-terrible-children-taught-they-can-choose-gender/

Our children are at risk by those who want to exploit young minds that are not mature enough to grasp what they are being told or given to read.

abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1230620

Regarding abortion, here’s how it was done, with the Catholic Church as the primary obstacle:

catholicnewsagency.com/resources/abortion/articles-and-addresses/an-ex-abortionist-speaks/

That started in 1969 and by 1972, I saw a lady on TV try to convince us that abortion was OK. In 1973, the US Supreme Court allowed for the deaths of millions to come. Jane Roe’s real name was Norma McCorvey. She never got an abortion. She became pro-life.

continued…

Hi, Ed!

…but it does not end there (highlighted excerpt); this would almost be a good place… what is truly happening is that we, Christians and others who do not accept the homosexual premise, are being forced by the government to “love” it and “defend” it (clearly some “Christians” have run to the enemy’s camp under the guise of “social justice” and “fairness”); it defies reason, fairness, and respect of civil rights, as the government have been forcing anyone who does not capitulate into financial bankruptcy and has practically criminalized thought, opinion, and any voice that speaks of “freedom of religion” or Christian conscience/value.

…do you recall the issue that arose when Pro-lifers began to rescue children that survived abortions? The government was moved to place an official in the premises so that any children that survived an abortion be allowed to die, unattended, without any medical or nutritional assistance… yes, your tax-dollars at work for Moloch one of the god’s that requires child sacrifice.

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[mkoopman]

Hi, M!

…could you clarify that?

What is done to the unborn in deciding these persons are not legal persons is not new. Often slaves are either legally non-persons or a lesser class of person under legal systems that accept slavery. Jews were declared non-persons by the third reich. There were attempts to do so at times in Europe before Hitler. As with world war two the church fought against such inhuman laws. Of course, the case for Jewish persecution by Pharoah makes for epic movies. Where is Charlton Heston?

 

[jcrichton]

What is done to the unborn in deciding these persons are not legal persons is not new. Often slaves are either legally non-persons or a lesser class of person under legal systems that accept slavery. Jews were declared non-persons by the third reich. There were attempts to do so at times in Europe before Hitler. As with world war two the church fought against such inhuman laws. Of course, the case for Jewish persecution by Pharoah makes for epic movies. Where is Charlton Heston?

Hi, M!

Thanks for the clarification… though you know that going from one extreme to the other is not necessarily the right thing to do, right?

Sanctioning Gentiles’ demotion to “non-person” would still avoid the issue of murder by state, “health” system, and irresponsible parents (sexual machines/breeders).

…as for Heston… last I heard he was riddling his backyard with bullets!

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[mkoopman]

Hi, M!

Thanks for the clarification… though you know that going from one extreme to the other is not necessarily the right thing to do, right?

Gentile sanctions sounds close to my own inappropriate sarcasm, yes, an oxymoron as sarcasm would never be appropriate if not for our fallen nature. When Yul Brenner opens with the automation technology your fallen nature best respond or they pick and place those who remained standing down the deep crevasse just around the bend. No?

 

[jcrichton]

Gentile sanctions sounds close to my own inappropriate sarcasm, yes, an oxymoron as sarcasm would never be appropriate if not for our fallen nature. When Yul Brenner opens with the automation technology your fallen nature best respond or they pick and place those who remained standing down the deep crevasse just around the bend. No?

Hi, M!

…a quick assessment/comparison shows how these two major flicks both revolved around the same issue: the Ten Commandments while portraying the plight of the Hebrews, demonstrate that Yahweh God directs man to a specif moment of clarification and status; while West World depicts man’s battle to supersede or suppress his dependency on God–it is the creature wanting to gain clarity and status without the Creator.

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[mkoopman]

Hi, M!

…a quick assessment/comparison shows how these two major flicks both revolved around the same issue: the Ten Commandments while portraying the plight of the Hebrews, demonstrate that Yahweh God directs man to a specif moment of clarification and status; while West World depicts man’s battle to supersede or suppress his dependency on God–it is the creature wanting to gain clarity and status without the Creator.

Maran atha!

Angel

I recall him as Pharoah? But your introduction of the artificial aspect where nothing can go wrong moves closer to the baseline of this thread. Rejecting God is the critical matter in these false constructs from the blight of modernism. What is the silver bullet for the West World sheriff to return Robin Hood to rightful princedom? The freedom of receiving Sacraments from Friar Tut is the reward for fighting corruption. But how to disarm the guard and render unto God what is God’s?

 

[jcrichton]

I recall him as Pharoah? But your introduction of the artificial aspect where nothing can go wrong moves closer to the baseline of this thread. Rejecting God is the critical matter in these false constructs from the blight of modernism. What is the silver bullet for the West World sheriff to return Robin Hood to rightful princedom? The freedom of receiving Sacraments from Friar Tut is the reward for fighting corruption. But how to disarm the guard and render unto God what is God’s?

Hi, M!

…sorry the phrase “automation technology” compelled me to think of that other flick…

Yet, that is what the ultimate battle is about… not rendering our will unto God. It is the most epic and ancient of Biblical battles… Cain lobbed the first treacherous salvo as he both removed his “opposition” from the arena and though that he would compel God to accept what he was willing to render unto Him.

Interestingly enough, in this struggle man continues to use his freedom to reject God… and when his psyche demands that he seek a relationship with God, man’s ego attempts to define the terms of the relationship… usually projecting his constructs as “social justice” or “Christian charity.”

In deed, man makes himself blind to God’s Demands of Divine Justice while holding to his on constructs as the “medium” through which he can filter out what God “really” means to convey through his Revealed Word. In effect, man has done precisely what the Holy Spirit warned would happen:

3 The time is sure to come when, far from being content with sound teaching, people will be avid for the latest novelty and collect themselves a whole series of teachers according to their own tastes; 4 and then, instead of listening to the truth, they will turn to myths.

(2 Timothy 4:3-4)
…this reminds me of a cartoon film where a dog is tied on a pole… as the cat walks across the yard the dog springs into action with ferocious barking, snarling and baring its teeth, threatening to tear the cat to shreds… at the apex of the assailing the rope breaks… the dog quickly fumbles for the rope, ties a knot onto both ends… and re-starts the sham!

Does man really wants to Fellowship with God?:

8 I promise you, he will see justice done to them, and done speedily. But when the Son of Man comes, will he find any faith on earth?’

(St. Luke 18:8b)
Maran atha!

Angel

 

[mkoopman]

Hi, M!

…sorry the phrase “automation technology” compelled me to think of that other flick…

Yet, that is what the ultimate battle is about… not rendering our will unto God. It is the most epic and ancient of Biblical battles… Cain lobbed the first treacherous salvo as he both removed his “opposition” from the arena and though that he would compel God to accept what he was willing to render unto Him.

Interestingly enough, in this struggle man continues to use his freedom to reject God… and when his psyche demands that he seek a relationship with God, man’s ego attempts to define the terms of the relationship… usually projecting his constructs as “social justice” or “Christian charity.”

In deed, man makes himself blind to God’s Demands of Divine Justice while holding to his on constructs as the “medium” through which he can filter out what God “really” means to convey through his Revealed Word. In effect, man has done precisely what the Holy Spirit warned would happen:

…this reminds me of a cartoon film where a dog is tied on a pole… as the cat walks across the yard the dog springs into action with ferocious barking, snarling and baring its teeth, threatening to tear the cat to shreds… at the apex of the assailing the rope breaks… the dog quickly fumbles for the rope, ties a knot onto both ends… and re-starts the sham!

Does man really wants to Fellowship with God?:

Maran atha!

Angel

Parading hypocrites I get but the toothsome dog is a bit less trifling.
What is a politic that begs those concepts, Christian charity - social justice, then comes one vote shy of commitment? Perhaps closer to most personal relationships with Jesus than we allow ourselves to believe.
Easier to blame that ‘church construct’ as becomes presidential language for Satan than to know thyself. Not being the best I, aye that I know, no. Not being true to thyself in a poetic sense but truly in the priestly. Turning off our own lofty image of ourself is the only path to know Him and come freely to that true freedom only saints may know.

This is, poorly enough stated, but I hope clear enough to identify the only cure for these ills. Turn off the media, read Cd. Sarah and let the power of silence inform you. The persons rejected by mainstream values are not the matter that drives most of those so adamantly wrong, it is the thrill of the roe that they seek. A machismo that women can share so blithely. There is power in silence.