How to cure a witch: Catholic Church issues guide in Britain to turn the tables on Harry Potter

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A guide on how to convert witches to Christianity has been published by the Roman Catholic Church in Britain.

The move comes in response to fears that growing numbers of teenagers are being lured into Wicca, occult practices and paganism by the heroic depiction of witches in entertainment including the Harry Potter and The Sorcerer’s Apprentice films, and TV.

Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353517/Catholic-Church-issues-guide-convert-Harry-Potter-witches-Christianity.html#ixzz1CzVjpjpg
 
Despite the insinuation of the Daily Mail, I am not sure that the pamphlet has anything to do with Harry Potter. It seems to be a warning against Wicca, written by a former Wiccan.

And the claim that the Catholic Church has issued this pamphlet also seems misleading. It is true that it was published by the Catholic Truth Society, which also publishes material in the UK for the Holy See. However, the publisher is independent of the Holy See and of the Catholic bishops of the UK. There is no indication that either have directed this pamphlet to be published. The CTS may provide a voice for Catholic authors, but it is not the voice of the Catholic Church.
 
Abyssinia said:
A guide on how to convert witches to Christianity has been published by the Roman Catholic Church in Britain.
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The daily mail intentionally lies to its readers all the time. They often misrepresent stories to make sales. Its the nature of the British press. (personal opinion)
 
I wouldn’t believe the date on the banner of the Daily Mail. As a former reporter said of it: “you knew that the headline had been written before the story came in and your job was to make the facts fit”.
 
Cure!? I didn’t know my religious practices counted as a sickness…

-goes and coughs in the meat being roasted- 😉
 
Though the article itself is pretty much rubbish as others have said, it does lead to an interesting if not a bit depressing turn of events.

It seems that the age of Evangilizing is pretty much dead; I mean there was a time when the entire world was majorily pagan and more pagan than any of the neo beliefs that turn up now and somehow this majority was overtaken by Christianity which was more or less considered a Slaves’ religion for the longest time.

Compared to then it’s quite the Dark Age for faith nowadays, with protestants believing in there own groups teachings despite being splinters of a splinter group, atheists who need not do anything but point fingers and hide behind there caim of merely having non-belief, and now pagans who most of the time are just disgruntled former Christians who don’t want to be held back in there liberal lifestyle.
 
Dave_B said:
The daily mail intentionally lies to its readers all the time. They often misrepresent stories to make sales. Its the nature of the British press. (-]personal opinion/-]Fact)
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Fixed it for you
 
Abyssinia said:
A guide on how to convert witches to Christianity has been published by the Roman Catholic Church in Britain.

The move comes in response to fears that growing numbers of teenagers are being lured into Wicca, occult practices and paganism by the heroic depiction of witches in entertainment including the Harry Potter and The Sorcerer’s Apprentice films, and TV.

Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353517/Catholic-Church-issues-guide-convert-Harry-Potter-witches-Christianity.html#ixzz1CzVjpjpg
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More misleading thread titles.

HP is a CHRISTIAN allegory. Even a simple internet search will reveal it; Rowling herself said it was a Christian tale that had to be done in a covert manner, and I think she succeeded.

There is danger in real paganism, but HP ain’t it.
 
"The guide, published yesterday by the Catholic Truth Society, the UK publishers to the Holy See, was written by Elizabeth Dodd, a former Oxford Wiccan who converted to the Catholic faith.

She said nearly 70 per cent of Wicca practitioners are young women seeking some kind of spirituality.

Behind the glamour there were ‘grave dangers’ because of its link to the occult and the sinister movement championed by satanist Aleister Crowley, she said.

She added: ‘Recognition that Wiccans are on a genuine spiritual quest can provide the starting point for dialogue that may lead to their conversion.’

Some 7,000 of 31,000 neo-pagans identified themselves as Wiccans in the 2001 census but the figure is believed to be far higher."

Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353517/Catholic-Church-issues-guide-convert-Harry-Potter-witches-Christianity.html#ixzz1D0NJ5rnO
 
cts-online.org.uk/acatalog/info_Ex35.html

"Wicca and Witchcraft
Understanding the dangers
Elizabeth Dodd

“An introduction to these phenomena and how to evangelise those involved”

"To marginalised and spiritually hungry generations the growing spiritual phenomena of Wicca and witchcraft have proved attractive, with much to offer: power, supernatural abilities and socially acceptable agendas such as eco-activism and feminism.

"This booklet examines their origins, history, beliefs and practices, and then explains Catholic teaching’s cogent assessment of them.

“Furthermore it explores why young people are attracted to Wicca, and describes ways in which it is possible to bring witches and wiccans to Christ and his Church.”
 
Sailor_Kenshin said:
More misleading thread titles.

HP is a CHRISTIAN allegory. Even a simple internet search will reveal it; Rowling herself said it was a Christian tale that had to be done in a covert manner, and I think she succeeded.

There is danger in real paganism, but HP ain’t it.
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There are certainly christian themes in HP, but it is fatally flawed as an actual allegory. Don’t get me wrong, I read every one and enjoyed them greatly, but there are as many problems as there are positive themes. While I don’t agree with those who place Potter on the same level as blatantly opposed to the faith (like the Gloden Compass series), neither does it rise to the level of christian allegory like Narnia or Lord of the Rings. Instead, I’d say the author may have intended to incorporate some christian themes, but she’s either not educated enough in christian theology to pull it off or she simply doesn’t believe in the totality of christian revelation.
 
Her pamphlet is also available on Amazon:

amazon.co.uk/Wicca-Witchcraft-Understanding-Elizabeth-Dodd/dp/1860827136

The title of the pamphlet is “Wicca and Witchcraft: Understanding the Dangers”.

Not, “How to Cure a Witch”.

P.S. The 4 or 5 Wiccans I’ve talked with online were prochoice, prohomosexuality acts, pro homosexual marriage and far left leaning in their political voting.

One woman grew up in the Catholic Church and now teaches Planned Parenthood “family planning” in her local hospital. She is a Wiccan priestess and takes great pride in walking her friends into mills for their abortions.

Wiccas motto “Harm None” extends to animals, but not to human unborn children.
 
Why? You have more experience in Wicca than a former practicing Wicca?
 
Dale_M said:
Despite the insinuation of the Daily Mail, I am not sure that the pamphlet has anything to do with Harry Potter. It seems to be a warning against Wicca, written by a former Wiccan.

And the claim that the Catholic Church has issued this pamphlet also seems misleading. It is true that it was published by the Catholic Truth Society, which also publishes material in the UK for the Holy See. However, the publisher is independent of the Holy See and of the Catholic bishops of the UK. There is no indication that either have directed this pamphlet to be published. The CTS may provide a voice for Catholic authors, but it is not the voice of the Catholic Church.
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Catholic Truth society is concerned about the heroic portrayals of Witches in TV and movies such as Harry Potter, Sabrina, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and how that may be persuade young people to become witches.

As young person myself, I can see it could be true. Especially to young people who do no have a religion, they definitely could be persuaded by those shows featuring witches, to try paganism or witchcraft. Witches in these shows are typically looked at as cool, daring, exciting etc.

Peter Kreeft:

The most serious challenge for Christianity today isn’t one of the other great religions of the world, such as Islam or Buddhism.

Nor is it simple atheism, which has no depth, no mass appeal, no staying power. Rather, it’s a religion most of us think is dead. That religion is paganism—and it is very much alive.

peterkreeft.com/topics-more/religions_newpaganism.htm
 
Hi - just thought I’d let you know - I’m reading the book and it’s very good.
 
manualman said:
There are certainly christian themes in HP, but it is fatally flawed as an actual allegory. Don’t get me wrong, I read every one and enjoyed them greatly, but there are as many problems as there are positive themes. While I don’t agree with those who place Potter on the same level as blatantly opposed to the faith (like the Gloden Compass series), neither does it rise to the level of christian allegory like Narnia or Lord of the Rings. Instead, I’d say the author may have intended to incorporate some christian themes, but she’s either not educated enough in christian theology to pull it off or she simply doesn’t believe in the totality of christian revelation.
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Explain how it doesn’t.

To compare HP to the odious Alester Crowley (as has been done) is nonsense. Maybe the anti-HP forces would do better to take on pro-abortion Catholics.
 
Abyssinia said:
A guide on how to convert witches to Christianity has been published by the Roman Catholic Church in Britain.

The move comes in response to fears that growing numbers of teenagers are being lured into Wicca, occult practices and paganism by the heroic depiction of witches in entertainment including the Harry Potter and The Sorcerer’s Apprentice films, and TV.

Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353517/Catholic-Church-issues-guide-convert-Harry-Potter-witches-Christianity.html#ixzz1CzVjpjpg
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I honestly don’t think that the Catholic Church can really deal with women (and to a lesser extent men) defecting from Christian churches (including the Catholic one) to Wiccan practices without significantly changing public perceptions of itself.

Especially with regard to how the Church views and treats women (this would probably involve actually changing how the Church talks about and treats women to some extent).

Do I think that the Catholic Church can do that at any point in the relatively near future?

No.

But I have been wrong before:)
 
AngryAtheist8 said:
What’s a caim?

I am an atheist so I should have one;)
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If you are trying to convert us to your beliefs, I just want to let you know that making snarky posts about obvious typos is not helping your cause. It’s just irritating.

Also, being a woman myself, I would like it if you could not speak in generalizations about “how the Church treats women”. Either be specific or don’t bother to comment. It’s intellectually lazy, not to mention the fact that our culture objectifies women. Why would I want to “defect” to a defective culture like that? I feel very respected as a woman within my Church. You don’t speak for me.
 
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