How to deal with fanatical Pentecosts?

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I will keep you in my prayers. I was raised in the Pentecostal church of god and when I converted to Catholicism I had to deal with the fanatics at the church I grew up in, so maybe you might pray for their conversion. My mother came to accept my conversion and in the last year of her life she was one of my staunchest defenders.
 
Best reaction I’ve read in this thread. It would completely befuddle them I think.

That said, I’m glad I don’t live in a place where this type of thing has ever come up. Where I’ve lived people tend to live by the old common sense proverb, “keep thy religion to thy self.”
Yeah, I miss that about California.
 
Exorcism is an area in which Catholic priests can learn from Pentecostal preachers, says one prominent Brazilian priest in the Charismatic wing of the Church:*

Since the late 1980s, competition with Pentecostalism has led to the formation of a cadre of Latin American priests affiliated to the Catholic Charismatic Renewal (CCR), which specialises in “liberation” or exorcism ministries. Such is the current demand for release from demonic possession that some priests, such as the Brazilian Charismatic superstar Fr Marcelo Rossi, even celebrate “liberation Masses” on a weekly basis.

Acknowledging his pastoral debt to Brazilian Pentecostal leader Bishop Edir Macedo, whose Universal Church of the Kingdom of God brought exorcism to the fore of spirit-centred Christianity in Latin America, Fr Rossi stated in an interview that “it was Bishop Edir Macedo who woke us up. He got us up.”*

catholicherald.co.uk/issues/november-6th-2015/the-great-exorcism-boom/
Rather than support “bishop” Macedo, that quote makes me question the Brazil Church’s charismatic leadership, especially Fr. Rossi, and what their real motives and agenda are.
 
=darkangel123;13416124]Hi!
There are a few people at my gym who belong to the Pentecostal church and they are nothing short of fanatics. They keep telling me that I should renounce my Catholic faith and get “saved”. They have also added me to this WhatsApp group where they send messages condemning the Catholic faith and the Pope. Today, one of them crossed the line and told that our Pope is the anti-christ. She went on to tell that that was the sermon at her church last week. She called Catholics “Satanists” . She showed me pictures of the Pope with leaders from different faiths telling that he has renounced Christianity. I tried talking sense into her, but in vain. Can anyone please help me how to deal with such people? Any Bible verses which I could quote to them would be of help. I want to shut them up for good.
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Hi!

There are a few people at my gym who belong to the Pentecostal church and they are nothing short of fanatics. They keep telling me that I should renounce my Catholic faith and get “saved”. They have also added me to this WhatsApp group where they send messages condemning the Catholic faith and the Pope. Today, one of them crossed the line and told that our Pope is the anti-christ. She went on to tell that that was the sermon at her church last week. She called Catholics “Satanists” . She showed me pictures of the Pope with leaders from different faiths telling that he has renounced Christianity. I tried talking sense into her, but in vain. Can anyone please help me how to deal with such people? Any Bible verses which I could quote to them would be of help. I want to shut them up for good.
One way to stop them is to have them explain further on their statements. More likely than not, they just picked up what somebody told them or what they have been told, like at the sermon in their church, and they have not given much thought to the reasoning behind it.

Example:
hey keep telling me that I should renounce my Catholic faith and get “saved”.
Here, have them explain what they mean by “saved” and have them explain to you why they think you are not “saved”.

But be sure you have a ready answer about the Catholic teaching on salvation.
Today, one of them crossed the line and told that our Pope is the anti-christ.
Here, have them explain why they think the Pope is anti-Christ? Have them give an example of what the pope has done to be anti-Christ.
She showed me pictures of the Pope with leaders from different faiths telling that he has renounced Christianity.
Well…ask them how they come to this conclusion and have them produce a statement from Pope Francis that he has renounced Christianity?
 
My friend had a Catholic show on a shared radio station.

She also had the rosary prayed. Almost every day two fellows from a Protestant sect would come in during her lunch break and bombard her with all sorts of anti Catholic things.

She finally said, 'Enough! I want to eat my lunch! Please leave!" and they finally did. When people are in that kind of momentum, you really cannot address their passion.
 
My friend had a Catholic show on a shared radio station.

She also had the rosary prayed. Almost every day two fellows from a Protestant sect would come in during her lunch break and bombard her with all sorts of anti Catholic things.

She finally said, 'Enough! I want to eat my lunch! Please leave!" and they finally did. When people are in that kind of momentum, you really cannot address their passion.
This is, frankly, the clearest and most direct response to this thread.

As a parish priest, I always discouraged ANYONE in my parish from doing what the original poster proposes (attempting to “shut up” these sorts of people by throwing Bible verses at them) or what various others on this thread propose: attempting to engage in debate those who are viciously attacking the Catholic faith.

Indeed, the Catholic faith can never be reduced to a few passages from the Bible. It is an elaborate tapestry derived from Sacred Scripture AND Sacred Tradition which together form the deposit of the faith.

Those who belong to these sorts of groups and who undertake these exercises are typically well-trained in proselytism, often for the purpose of specifically targeting Catholics who are not able to immediately respond to their various allegations. Thus, in confronting them one is playing with fire. If you have education and training superior to theirs, yes you can actually rather easily refute what they allege.

Many people, however, are actually not suitably prepared to engage in debate those who have been specifically trained to present very narrow arguments and what are, really, very biased and incredibly flawed arguments. In such circumstances, those attempting to respond are at a significant disadvantage.

The entire goal of those making these anti-Catholic arguments is to convince you that your faith is misplaced. Regardless of whether or not these people are acting from good will, what they seek is to do is what amounts to grave spiritual harm.

Personally, I have always counseled my parishioners to simply respond to those who arrive on the doorstep that “proselytizers and other peddlers are not welcome and need to leave immediately.” Jesus Himself sets the example in His confrontation with Satan after His fast of 40 days. He does not attempt to out-argue the devil who quotes, to his advantage, passages from the Sacred Scripture. Rather, Jesus simply rebukes the devil and dismisses him.

One should certainly study the faith and come to know better what the Church teaches but one should be extremely prudent about attempting to debate those who have set as their mission in life the effort to sway people from the practice of their Catholic faith. They are a danger better not engaged.
 
… Send them a picture of this meeting the Pope had with Pentecostal Leaders but don’t tell her what it is. Then when she denounces all of them, inform her that they are all pentecostal pastors from around the world: …
After that, ask her which pentecostal leader she considers righteous enough to follow. I am sure one or the other is affiliated somehow with one of these people in the picture. …
That’s no good, they know all that already and they hate those people utterly. To them they are the antichrist as well. There are web sites full of it.
 
Tell THEM to find another gym. YOU don’t have to run away, THEY do.

I have met genuine Pentecostals, they are supportive of my Catholic faith.
 
Hi!

There are a few people at my gym who belong to the Pentecostal church and they are nothing short of fanatics. They keep telling me that I should renounce my Catholic faith and get “saved”. They have also added me to this WhatsApp group where they send messages condemning the Catholic faith and the Pope. Today, one of them crossed the line and told that our Pope is the anti-christ. She went on to tell that that was the sermon at her church last week. She called Catholics “Satanists” . She showed me pictures of the Pope with leaders from different faiths telling that he has renounced Christianity. I tried talking sense into her, but in vain. Can anyone please help me how to deal with such people? Any Bible verses which I could quote to them would be of help. I want to shut them up for good.
You can’t shut them up for good but the management can, I would complain, record, complain, record, request that no soliciting signs be posted. Casually ask others about their experiences, and if negative encourage them to complain.
 
I want to shut them up for good.
This will not happen. The best you can do is keep yourself out of earshot. Disassociate with them, get off their electronic message system, and go to the gym at a different time.
 
Hi!

There are a few people at my gym who belong to the Pentecostal church and they are nothing short of fanatics. They keep telling me that I should renounce my Catholic faith and get “saved”. They have also added me to this WhatsApp group where they send messages condemning the Catholic faith and the Pope. Today, one of them crossed the line and told that our Pope is the anti-christ. She went on to tell that that was the sermon at her church last week. She called Catholics “Satanists” . She showed me pictures of the Pope with leaders from different faiths telling that he has renounced Christianity. I tried talking sense into her, but in vain. Can anyone please help me how to deal with such people? Any Bible verses which I could quote to them would be of help. I want to shut them up for good.
Gird up for battle. Learn your Faith. Ask questions like…what provisions did Jesus leave for His teachings to be passed on (hint…the Catholic Church).

If the Bible was intended to be the sole instrument of the teachings of Jesus then wouldn’t that have been an important part of the Bible? Wouldn’t Jesus have left explicit instructions on what books should comprise the Bible?

You would think that something that protestants consider to be the bedrock of their religion would have been mentioned by Jesus Himself, particularly what the contents of Scripture should be. What did Jesus have to say about the New Testament?
 
Some of these responses are rather nicer than mine I must admit, it’s usually Jehovas Witnessess who stand around streets waving leaflets and knocking on doors here and I always wind them up.

“No I’m not interested sorry, I’m a devotee of the Dreadlord Badger. Are you free next Tuesday, first we’re going to have a few drinks then we’re going to burn a puppy on the heath and have a massive orgy afterwards”.

I’m not sure what I find funnier, the looks of bafflement or the fact about 8/10 of them take me seriously and try to talk about how DreadLord Badger/Aphrodite/Inset deity here is a false idol who will lead unto oblivion. It’s certainly more interesting a discussion than the leaflets about how all other Christian Churches are pagan.
 
No, my friend Jan.

She also was production manager for our local ABC affiliate. She had moxie.

She is grandma now with enough on her hands.

I agree with Guanaphore…you really have to stay out of any conversation with them. Stay out and pray and move on. Very sad and hurtful.
 
Two? I wonder if they were both converts! I think I might have met Holly, come to think of it…
 
You might want to put on a earphone/microphone. Then when they come up to you start talking into it like you are on the phone. You can even mouth “on the phone”. Just make sure your phone is turned off so it doesn’t ring while you are pretending to be unavailable for a conversation. 😃
 
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