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underacloud
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OK, I’m getting the strong impression now that your problem is not so much the contents of the list, but the condescending and self-righteous tone with which it is delivered. Fair enough.
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boomerang
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I’d say your attire at Mass should be clean and modest. No shorts, tank tops. No pajamas and fuzzy slippers, either.I’m not sure whether I agree or disagree with this…because I have no idea what it means.
Should I be wearing a three-piece-suit to mass?
What about a tunic and sandals - which would have been the attire at the very first mass?
What about jeans? What about shorts? What about…t-shirts?
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underacloud
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It was a rhetorical question.I’d say your attire at Mass should be clean and modest. No shorts, tank tops. No pajamas and fuzzy slippers, either.
I sometimes wear shorts to mass in summer. It can get pretty hot and humid and shorts are generally acceptable in local parish masses. Local customs will be important here, as will relative climate conditions.
So on a hot, humid summer day here in Australia, I will wear sandals, shorts, and a t-shirt to mass.
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Xantippe
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Yeah.
I think it’s very unlikely to reach or convince people that actually commit those particular misdeeds, while at the same time giving too much confidence in their parenting to people that don’t do those particular things, and (if that weren’t enough) kicking grieving parents while they’re down (You know how your 14-year-old doesn’t want to go to Mass anymore? It’s because you wore shorts and sandals to Mass in 2012. Totally ridiculous.)
Basically, the original list either doesn’t help or hurts pretty much everybody.
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Xantippe
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I have often taken children to Mass in pajamas. Granted, they were generally 1 or 2 at the time or (even more excusably) infants.I’d say your attire at Mass should be clean and modest. No shorts, tank tops. No pajamas and fuzzy slippers, either.
Do I need to confess this???
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MissRose73
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Great list and so true !!!
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pensmama87
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One of our favorite Christmas Eve traditions is opening up the kids’ new pajamas and then they wear them for Midnight Mass.
Then again, I let them sleep in the pew on top of all our coats, too (at least for that Mass.
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Xantippe
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Awwww!One of our favorite Christmas Eve traditions is opening up the kids’ new pajamas and then they wear them for Midnight Mass.
Then again, I let them sleep in the pew on top of all our coats, too (at least for that Mass.
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jmcrae
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Hopefully the adults were dressed as if for Church.One of our favorite Christmas Eve traditions is opening up the kids’ new pajamas and then they wear them for Midnight Mass.
Then again, I let them sleep in the pew on top of all our coats, too (at least for that Mass.
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pensmama87
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We do manage that part.Hopefully the adults were dressed as if for Church.
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roflfalafel
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This made me laugh. I don’t understand why so many Catholic school students leave the faith.
I went through 12 years of Catholic education and none of my friends from elementary or high school are practicing.
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pianistclare
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My 2 cents:
Because ever since the Catholic schools began thinking that they should compete with the private schools, and parents started making demands on Catholics schools to compete with the private schools…the faith went by the wayside.
It costs ALOT to run a school when you have no free help (the sisters and orders that teach) available. Lay people need to make a living. So tuition skyrockets. And when tuition skyrockets people want to know why you don’t have a state of the art computer lab, a swimming pool, a bunch of AP classes, and a professional running track…etc.
We should have been nicer to the good sisters and more encouraging of vocations.
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jmcrae
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Because “Religion” becomes a subject like Math and English; you memorize the course content for the exam and then discard everything that doesn’t pertain to your College major.
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Gordon_Sims
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When I first started reconnecting with old friends from grade school and high school, it was distressing to see how many had left the faith. The more I’ve connected with, though, I’ve seen that quite a few of them either stuck with it or made their way back. Some are a bit misguided, others are lax, but I guess that’s better than not practicing at all. There aren’t a ton of them, but it’s encouraging to see that some of them are very involved and devout Catholics. A few of them are the last people you ever would have expected it from. While it would be nice if we/they would all stick with the faith unfailingly through life, I think having a Catholic education gives you at least a base to come back to when you finally decide on it later on.
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boomerang
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A lot of people leave Catholicism in their youth and come back in their middle years. The Church just isn’t exciting enough for youngsters.
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fastenatingguy
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I attended Catholic Schools from K though Masters, as did most of my lifelong friends. We (56 and 57 year olds) must be an aberration compared with some mentioned on this thread. Of my eight closest friends, only one is no longer a practicing Catholic–and he is struggling with his choice (divorced and about to remarry). He is still culturally Catholic and prays but he will likely only return should there be some 'easing" in the application or practice of annulments. He has that hope and interest in the upcoming synod.
On the other hand, it seems that about only half of the children in our group are practicing their faith consistently. They attend Church on major holidays and marriages/funerals, but do not attend each Sunday, or seek confession only rarely. The one friend who has seven children still attends mass with his wife, but they do not require their at home children to attend.
I myself am a darn good sinner, making the bi-weekly journey to the confessional.
My wife has not practiced in years.
Sadly, my daughter does not “prioritize” her faith.
My son attends Sunday mass whenever he is home. But as a college student, he is averaging about 50%. Fortunately, he realizes that he needs confession and abstains from communion when not properly disposed.
To their credit both kids are active in community service and for Catholic charities.
As many have indicated, there is always hope that these lost sheep will find their way back. Our responsibility is to pray for that, and foster their return. Those will be happy days indeed.
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