How to handle husband drinking and driving with the kids?

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BE, have you talked to your husband at all about how you’re feeling?
Several times! It goes in one ear and out the other. The heavy drinking is one of the more serious problems. I just dont know what I can do. A priest told me that we cant change people, only God can. All I can really do is pray? I dont think so. I guess I could leave him if he does this again. but go where?
 
Several times! It goes in one ear and out the other. The heavy drinking is one of the more serious problems. I just dont know what I can do. A priest told me that we cant change people, only God can. All I can really do is pray? I dont think so. I guess I could leave him if he does this again. but go where?
What does he think about the amount he drinks? Does he even acknowledge that he goes overboard to often? Is it everyday?

Would your parents drive drunk with their grandchildren in the car with them? Do you have anyone in the family who sees what you do, and agrees it’s a problem?
 
What does he think about the amount he drinks? Does he even acknowledge that he goes overboard to often? Is it everyday?

Would your parents drive drunk with their grandchildren in the car with them? Do you have anyone in the family who sees what you do, and agrees it’s a problem?
No, my parents wouldnt drive my kds anywhere! My dad drinks pretty heavily and my Mom doesnt. She has her own health issues that I would not allow her to drive my kids. I really dont like other people driving my kids anywhere. Of course everyone sees it. I have a bunch of brothers and sisters that see what goes on. In fact-I am know as the BIT** for “counting” his drinks. Everyone jokes, “When is the old lady going to cut you off?” This is at family parties. I stopped doing that because it doesnt help anyway. Now its, “hi dear, can I get you anything?” when family is around.

And no its not everyday. Just for parties or when we go to my parents house! So maybe weekly or biweekly that he gets drunk, (not drives drunk)!

He does sometimes think that he needs to stop drinking all together, but once he starts, there is no stopping!
 
While I don’t have any words of wisdom for communication, I do suggest praying to St. Rita of Cascia. She is one of the saints of the impossible. Her story is one of true devotion to God and family. Look her up on the EWTN web site or other souces. I prayed for along time for St. Rita’s intercession for the conversion of my husband and have been rewarded more than I can ever thank God for.
 
He does sometimes think that he needs to stop drinking all together, but once he starts, there is no stopping!
That is definitely a drinking problem, even if he doesn’t do it every day. A person should be able to have a few drinks and stop before they feel the effects of the alcohol. If they can’t stop until they’re drunk, then that’s a drinking problem.

Did you address with him the issue of driving drunk with his children in the car?

I asked about your parents not to suggest that they drive, but wondering if they were the sort to think it’s just fine to drive drunk with their grandchildren in the car. My father in law wouldn’t think twice about it. He’s endangered my husband’s life many many times. I just wondered if your family would maybe encourage hubby to hang around and chug some water and sober up before he gets on the road.

Your brothers’ and sisters’ attitudes are real regrettable. I’m definitely praying for you.

When you talk to him about it, would you say (honestly) that you are emotional when you talk to him, or are you calm? Does he get mad at you for saying anything?

Someone here on this forum said once about how to treat your husband, “Praise in public, admonish in private” so be real real careful about letting other people see you keeping track of his drinking. It sounds like you’ve started doing that. In the future, when you see him starting to go overboard at your parents, maybe you should get a headache and say it’s time to go home before he gets too far out of hand. I know that will only work a couple of times, but it’s worth a shot.

I often bring my husband big glasses of water while he’s drinking and make sure he downs the whole thing. We rarely drink outside of our home though.
 
Is there a chapter of Al-Anon near you? You are not the only wife or family dealing with an alcoholic, nor the only ones with an alcoholic in denial. You are not the only one who has innocent children to protect from a real danger that is also their beloved and loving father. You are not the only ones with an entire family that is in denial about their social and physical dependence on alcohol.

You know that your husband is the only one who’s got control of the free will of your husband. You also know that what is going on in your husband’s generation must not be allowed to reach into your children’s generation, if at all possible. You must do what is within your power to do in order to break this cycle before it sucks them in, too…again, if that is possible, for they also have God-given wills of their own.

We all have an incompleteness that is meant to hold God. Your husband’s relationship with alcohol may be a manifestation of his, and this crisis may what finally brings that to his attention.

Go talk to some people with the personal and professional experience to guide you and support you in doing what *you *need to do (and refrain from doing) in order to navigate this. They will also help you to come to terms about what is within your power to do, what is only within your husband’s power to do, and what only God has in control of. Comprehending that will make a big difference.

If you are like many Catholics, you are more than willing to suffer and even die for those whom you love. Look at the Cross, though, as you do this. Jesus suffered, not to keep us in sin, but to free us from sin. He was killed because He would not be silenced from telling the truth, and He was raised and saved us because He was always faithful to God’s call, even when the call was to utter powerlessness. That is the way we are all called to follow. Suffering that does not follow the example of Christ should not be elevated to the level of that which does. Do not choose non-redemptive suffering over the redemptive. There is no sin in choosing a way out of this, even if there is conflict along the way. Do not let the devil tempt you towards appeasing a denial of the truth. I do not mean this judgementally, but that is just another name for a lie, whether the speaker fully realizes it or not. Prudence may dictate the place and the hour, but always be faithful to the truth.

If you don’t have a regular prayer life that you guard without fail, I think you’ll find it is time to get one. It may be the desert you go through, or the Red Sea, or the town of Jericho you have to assault, but no matter. Whatever happens, hang in there and trust in God. Your DH is only man, with the same frailties we are all heir to, but God will not fail you. If you ever feel as if you will never see the completion of your work, bring to mind Abraham and Sarah, bring to mind Moses…they didn’t see it, either, and yet they believed, and God’s Will was achieved through them.

God bless you all, and good luck.
 
AFter losing family members and friends to drunk drivers. I feel very strongly about this issue. Do yourself, your family and also society at large a big favor and get all of your cars retrofitted with this type of device.
Separating drinking from driving

Smart Start is the nation’s premier provider of ignition interlock services and technology. Every day, our ignition interlock device prevents intoxicated drivers from endangering themselves, their families and their fellow citizens by separating drinking from driving. Smart Start is the smart choice for both monitored drivers and court/public safety authorities.
What is an ignition interlock device?

An ignition interlock device is an in-car alcohol breath screening device that prevents a vehicle from starting if it detects a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) over a pre-set limit. The device is located inside the vehicle, near the driver’s seat, and is connected to the engine’s ignition system.

Also contact this incredible agency.
madd.org/
 
Why do you hang with your family if they are like that? My husband is a recoved alcoholic (almost 10 years sober). When our daughter was a baby he left his cousins house plastered out of his mind (my daughter was home with me) and smashed our car into a pole. His family is full of alcoholics and while they are not responsible for his drinking they let him leave and drive home knowing he was in no shape to drive.

That is the last time we saw these people which was nearly 11 years ago. I changed our phone number to a private number and we have not seen them since. I can not even phathom my reaction if my husband had drove with our daughter in the car after he had been drinking. Homicidal comes to mind.

I would flat out say if you EVER drive with kids while you have been drinking I will take the kids and leave, and I will report it to the police. Period end of discussion.

Your parents let your husband leave with their grandchildren in the car knowing he had been drinking -and you still talk to them?

Your priest is right you can’t change people but you can change your behavior. You can not put your kids at risk -do you realize that child protective services could take your kids if your husband gets pulled over for drunk driving with them in the car? And there would be charges of child endangerment?

Don’t leave your kids with your husband if there is even a remote chance he may be drinking. I’d rather end my marriage then burry my children. This is very serious and you need to take it very seriously.
 
OP, after reading more of your responses it seems that the situation is urgent. Your husband could be putting your children and himself at risk many times without you realizing it.

Also, have you considered your own liability besides his? Social services often looks at both parents when substance abuse is present. If he wrecks the car, kills or maims the kids, maims himself, perhaps kills other people involved in the accident, you might also be dragged into this and be forced to appear in court, pay damages and have your kids (if they are still alive) taken from you.

This goes beyond praying and saving money or relying on him as a breadwinner. If he is in jail for the next 12 years on a charge of manslaughter, he sure won’t be your breadwinner. He is playing russian roulette with your life, your freedom, your kids and your marriage.

Even worse, he is suffering from this himself, cannot help himself and refuses to acknowledge the graveness of this situation.

Deep down, he most likely loves you and the kids. But he is suffering from a serious problem. If you love him and if you love your children, you will do everything in your power to get him help and to protect your kids from him.
 
Why do you hang with your family if they are like that?
All histories, including each of our own personal histories, are full of tolerance for the intolerable, either because they (or we) were accustomed to it or because they (or we) feared that not tolerating it would require losing either family or homeland or something we had come to think of as our identity or support forever. It is not hard to understand at all.

It is hard to trade away the devil you know when you aren’t certain you aren’t trading him in on a worse model. Doing the right thing under these circumstances takes a leap of faith…as you well know. Not doing so, though, that is to stay in hell.

It is still hell, even if you’re accustomed to it. You gotta leave.
 
How do you handle this after the fact? I was not home when this happened. I do not want to get the authorities involoved, my dh is the bread winner etc.
Breadwinner or not, I would be extremely careful when your husband is driving with kids in the car.If you even suspect he may be drinking while driving and you let him do it, you also may be held culpable.

Kathy
 
I just wan to add…We are in destitute, while I know that is not excuse, we just CANT afford to pay anyone to watch the kids, and certainly cant have gma and gpa do it. I feel out of options! Trust me, we cant cut anything else out of our lifestyle, we barely get groceries every week.
I know internet acess is everywhere these days, but how do you pay for having a computer and all the inherent expenses if you"barely get groceries every week"? And who buys his beer etc??

Kathy
 
I know internet acess is everywhere these days, but how do you pay for having a computer and all the inherent expenses if you"barely get groceries every week"? And who buys his beer etc??

Kathy
How we pay for our computer is none of your business. But since youve already stuck your nose where it doesnt belong i will tell you.
The computer was a gift for my husband when he graduated college. And the internet is paid for by our daughters virtual school. (Because we dont have money for a nice private catholic school) Is that satisfactory for you?
Does this change your advice for me?
Can I get a high five here! Do I get kathy’s stamp of approval?

I am sick of the people on this forum questioning everyone else’s level of sincerity. If you want to call me a liar just come out and say it. You dont have to come out making statements by asking questions. Accusing people of “trolling” as you people put it, does nothing for the person asking sincerely for help!
 
Breadwinner or not, I would be extremely careful when your husband is driving with kids in the car.If you even suspect he may be drinking while driving and you let him do it, you also may be held culpable.

Kathy
I also said that would never happen if I was around, hed have to rip my dead lifeless fingers off of the keys first. So how would that make me culpable?

When I approached my husband he told me that he indeed did wait around at my rents and did not have alcohol in his system when driving. He added that he only had a couple and I was confusing things up. He also said he would never do anything to put anyone in danger especially our children. He was mad that I would even jump to conclussions like that. But thanks for your advice everyone. most of everyone!
 
Take his keys, drive him around to work, weekend social events, etc, until he agrees to get help. Or go with him to these parties so YOU can drive him home.

The only other way is to involve the authorities if it happens again. You can be held accountable for child endangerment if you do nothing to stop it.
 
You know that your husband is the only one who’s got control of the free will of your husband. You also know that what is going on in your husband’s generation must not be allowed to reach into your children’s generation, if at all possible. You must do what is within your power to do in order to break this cycle before it sucks them in, too…again, if that is possible, for they also have God-given wills of their own.
Why do you hang with your family if they are like that? My husband is a recoved alcoholic (almost 10 years sober)… His family is full of alcoholics and while they are not responsible for his drinking they let him leave and drive home knowing he was in no shape to drive.

That is the last time we saw these people which was nearly 11 years ago. I changed our phone number to a private number and we have not seen them since. I can not even phathom my reaction if my husband had drove with our daughter in the car after he had been drinking. Homicidal comes to mind.

I would flat out say if you EVER drive with kids while you have been drinking I will take the kids and leave, and I will report it to the police. Period end of discussion.

Your parents let your husband leave with their grandchildren in the car knowing he had been drinking -and you still talk to them?

Your priest is right you can’t change people but you can change your behavior. You can not put your kids at risk -do you realize that child protective services could take your kids if your husband gets pulled over for drunk driving with them in the car? And there would be charges of child endangerment?

Don’t leave your kids with your husband if there is even a remote chance he may be drinking. I’d rather end my marriage then burry my children. This is very serious and you need to take it very seriously.
Good thoughts, all, above. You DO have some power here and need to take on some responsibility for ending this cycle that began in your family of origin and continues in the family you chose for yourself by marriage. The first step is to recognize how pathological and destructive this behaviour is and to end your association with it and those who partake in it. If that means distancing yourself physically/socially from your parents/siblings–DO IT. If it means giving your husband an ultimatum and being willing to enforce it–then DO IT. Your kids have no one but you to protect them. You will NEVER forgive yourself if you fail them in this regard or witness someone else’s family destroyed by his reckless behaviour.
 
Take his keys, drive him around to work, weekend social events, etc, until he agrees to get help. Or go with him to these parties so YOU can drive him home.

The only other way is to involve the authorities if it happens again. You can be held accountable for child endangerment if you do nothing to stop it.
As I said before, he did NOT drink and drive with the kids, nor would I ever allow such a thing. I dont think that every wife of husbands that drink should leave their marriage! But thank you! I would call the police on anyone that got in a car drunk, with or without children involved!👍
 
After losing family members and friends to drunk drivers. I feel very strongly about this issue. Do yourself, your family and also society at large a big favor and get all of your cars retrofitted with this type of device.
Separating drinking from driving

Smart Start is the nation’s premier provider of ignition interlock services and technology. Every day, our ignition interlock device prevents intoxicated drivers from endangering themselves, their families and their fellow citizens by separating drinking from driving. Smart Start is the smart choice for both monitored drivers and court/public safety authorities.
What is an ignition interlock device?

An ignition interlock device is an in-car alcohol breath screening device that prevents a vehicle from starting if it detects a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) over a pre-set limit. The device is located inside the vehicle, near the driver’s seat, and is connected to the engine’s ignition system.

Also contact this incredible agency.
madd.org/
Amen! I lost my grandfather and my uncle in different accidents. My father’s pain, the moment he found out about his younger brother, will be forever ingrained in my memory. Horror of horrors.

Accidents (misnomer) happen to loved ones. There was a time when I thought a death from DWI would never happen to someone I knew - in a blink that changed forever. Then our family experienced it yet again when my uncle was killed.

To ignore it and let it continue is also to be complicit in my opinion. I hold strong opinions on this.

You need to find the strength and courage to protect your family. God has entrusted them to you and given you knowledge that this is happening. This may be God’s wake up call to you.
 
I also said that would never happen if I was around, hed have to rip my dead lifeless fingers off of the keys first. So how would that make me culpable?

When I approached my husband he told me that he indeed did wait around at my rents and did not have alcohol in his system when driving. He added that he only had a couple and I was confusing things up. He also said he would never do anything to put anyone in danger especially our children. He was mad that I would even jump to conclussions like that. But thanks for your advice everyone. most of everyone!
That’s a relief BE! I can understand you jumping to conclusions though, it’s tough not to when your a mom. I hope ultimately your husband understands that’s where you’re coming from. And hopefully if his feelings were hurt enough, he may make an effort to impress upon you that he is being more careful with his drinking. It’s not that difficult to drink responsibly, it’s just a habit, just like drinking too much too often becomes a habit. Either way the individual begins with making a decision, either to have another or not.

I really hope your husbands feelings were hurt enough that he realizes he needs to be better under control as a norm. God bless your family, I hope all the best for you and yours!
 
Just out of curiousity, is there anyone here in this thread who remembers Sparkle and how she would respond to suggestions after asking for advice?
 
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