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tabycat
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How to know for sure that the gods and angels of ancient times including Jehovah weren't actually ETs?
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wcknight
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I think ET exist and they had nothing to do with ancient angels, gods or whatever. IF they did, why did they not continue with the contact, take over or enslave humans, or just wipe us out and take over the planet. It makes no sense to make contact briefly and just disappear.
BUT given the immense size of the universe, I think there are ETs out there, but chances are we will never see or meet them in our life time or for many lifetimes to come. Way, way down the road, IF we ever achieve inter stellar travel (or they do) we may really encounter some. It’s probably thousands of years away. The odds of us destroying ourselves or something big crashing into earth before hand are probably much higher.
IMHO encounters with the supernatural, NDEs, visions or apparitions, demons, possessions, etc are much more common and believable than encounters with ETs.
BUT given the immense size of the universe, I think there are ETs out there, but chances are we will never see or meet them in our life time or for many lifetimes to come. Way, way down the road, IF we ever achieve inter stellar travel (or they do) we may really encounter some. It’s probably thousands of years away. The odds of us destroying ourselves or something big crashing into earth before hand are probably much higher.
IMHO encounters with the supernatural, NDEs, visions or apparitions, demons, possessions, etc are much more common and believable than encounters with ETs.
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ericc
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Of course there is nothing in the Bible to say ET exist or not since the Bible is about the salvation of mankind and not ET.
Perhaps God did made ET and they passed the test, ie they remain faithful and obedient and did not sin and they live happily ever after. Therefore there is no need for them to have a Bible, we do!
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mikekle
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true, the bible does tell us our God is a creative one, so I think its foolish to think he created us and nothing else out there in the entire universe.Of course there is nothing in the Bible to say ET exist or not since the Bible is about the salvation of mankind and not ET.
Perhaps God did made ET and they passed the test, ie they remain faithful and obedient and did not sin and they live happily ever after. Therefore there is no need for them to have a Bible, we do!
I have a feeling, if we were able to travel all over the universe it would probably look alot like star wars, as in lots of different systems and all kinds of beings existing, some probably know about each other, others likely do not. It is exciting to think about.
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ericc
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Nice try. Bible is silent on this so no point in arguing from silence. No points awarded.
Stop day dreaming and come back to solid earth. I used to read sci-fi stuff and fantasized about those worlds. Later I found out those novels were just trying to find a way to exist without God in the picture. Science replacing God. Evolved till no God is required. Science fiction replacing miracles of the Bible. Some people believed that future science can eventually do fantastic things but scoff at biblical miracles. I wonder why these people disbelief God when God did something great and miraculous and yet they could believe science can do the same tricks when projected to the future without requiring any evidence of the capability to do so as long as it wears a hat that says “science”.
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TCEL
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You speak with the zeal of an avenger!
I’m more of a “classical” fantasy person myself, and by that I mean Tolkien and Lewis, and some medieval things and such. However, I think you make a very insightful point about the replacement of God in a lot (not all, but a lot) of Sci-fi universes. They tend to establish man as God. It’s the modern-day mythology, and ETs are very attractive to the imaginative mind. (Personally, I’ve always thought the creative urge is a very good thing, after all. It’s a God-like quality.)
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Fr_of_Jazz
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It is, in reality, the other way around: Do we know for sure–have proof–that the gods and angels of ancient times including Jehovah were actually ETs? The answer is “no.” The burden of proof is on the historically newer claim for a given intellectual community, i.e., that ancient aliens gave us technology, show up in Christian art, yada,yada, yada.
scary!Writing the forward to the book below Carl Sagan noted: “There is nothing a priori absurd in this contention [ancient alien thesis]; it is absurd only a posteriori. The possibility of extraterrestrial intelligence is something I and many other scientists take very seriously–to the point of using large radio telescopes to listen for possible signals . . . . If there were good evidence that in the past we were visited by such beings, our task would be immeasurably easier. But unfortunately there is no such evidence, as the present book helps to make clear.”
[Ronald Story, *The Space-Gods Revealed. New York: Harper & Row, Publishers, 1976, p. xi.]
A good source regarding art is here.
The “History” Channel never went beyond presenting an infomercial for the ancient alien theory, which is rather odd given that history requires a critical evaluation of sources. Is this how we teach the next generation to do history? Start with an ideology and force history into it? Fortunately there is a 3 hour series Ancient Aliens Debunked that takes on the claims and presents a critique that the “History” Channel, had they intended to present the results of credible historical research, should have done themselves.
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aragonjohn1
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Ezekial 1:22 Spread out above the heads of the living creatures was what looked something like a vault, sparkling like crystal, and awesome. 23 Under the vault their wings were stretched out one toward the other, and each had two wings covering its body. 24 When the creatures moved, I heard the sound of their wings, like the roar of rushing waters, like the voice of the Almighty,[a] like the tumult of an army. When they stood still, they lowered their wings.
25 Then there came a voice from above the vault over their heads as they stood with lowered wings. 26 Above the vault over their heads was what looked like a throne of lapis lazuli, and high above on the throne was a figure like that of a man.
this is about the son of God; Jesus the Christ coming in the flesh. not aliens or inordinately
creepy things. aliens definitely do not have many wings like God’s good angels do. Jesus
arrival with us is known by nearly all foresee-ers of all beliefs before His birth.
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mikekle
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I think you may have misunderstood me, I am a devout believer in God, also believe he created everything in existence. In no way, does believing in aliens take away from God, actually it gives him more credit, in that he has the ability to create such a variety thru out the universe.
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mikekle
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Here is a VERY good encounter with aliens involving alot of people, police, and the military, also occurred over multiple days.
The only thing I keep asking myself, is WHY, WHY, even back in the 1960s were military so strict about speaking about these things? It is clear they knew something back then.
earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=2166&category=Environment
The only thing I keep asking myself, is WHY, WHY, even back in the 1960s were military so strict about speaking about these things? It is clear they knew something back then.
earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=2166&category=Environment
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aragonjohn1
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ericc
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If you are a believer of conspiracy theories, there is a strong case one can make out for experiments gone back. COVER UP! Blame UFOS, you can’t sue them. You can’t claim insurance. Big corporations and Big Brother stays happy.
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ericc
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I am so sorry! I thought you were taking baby steps to the other side. My apologies. Just trying to get everyone focused back to God and not ETs.
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mikekle
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The ‘UFO’ craft is at the top, that bottom portion is the beam of light that burned thru the ice.
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aragonjohn1
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