How to know if a song is satanic?

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I have been analyzing the lyrics of the song Machine Messiah, of the rock band Yes, and my interpretation is that it seems to be an ode to Satanism.

It could be that the letter is simply ambiguous, since the arcane, the abstruse, and the transgression are inherent to the counterculture.

Yes is one of my favorite bands; if in youtube I see a song that seems suspicious to me, should not I see any other video of that same album?, or should I consider all its albums are satanic?

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  1. If a song is titled “Highway to hell” it is a strong hint.
  2. Stop listening to that song.
  3. If you have to analyze it, you probably have your answer.
  4. Review your taste in music.
 
TheLittleLady said:
If listening to YES is a near occasion of sin for you, then, don’t listen.
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All highbrow rock albums have ‘near occasion of sin’ songs.

All literati’s cherished classical music masterpieces have ‘near occasion of sin’ compositions. E.g. Devil’s Trill Sonata by Giussepe Tartini.

So, if a christian is a music composer, should he exclude all the creative geniuses of music from his musical influences?
 
po18guy said:
If a song is titled “Highway to hell” it is a strong hint.
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Have you actually ever listened to the song “Highway to Hell”? It’s not an ode to Satan, it’s rather somewhere between a cautionary tale and the reality of what happens to a lot of people. It’s also fun to sing along with.

Moving right along…
If music (any music) is going to inspire such a crisis of conscience in you that you have to sit around and pick apart the lyrics to see if it’s Satanic or not, I recommend that you find another hobby.

There are songs that are genuinely dark, yet have the musical equivalent of literary/ artistic value, the same way as an artist’s painting of Hell or his sculpture of Lucifer might have such artistic value.

There are also songs that are about something completely random or different, that somebody decides to interpret as being about the devil.

“Machine Messiah” is generally considered either a song about people stuck in a web of technology a la Fritz Lang’s “Metropolis”, or alternatively just a bunch of rather bad spacey lyrics thrown together to make a song which was written in one day according to the band. If you want to make it into the next big Satanic worry in your mind, that’s your mind painting the pictures. I am 99.9 percent certain it was not the intent of the band to write a song about Satan.
 
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“Tis_Bearself said:
I am 99.9 percent certain it was not the intent of the band to write a song about Satan.
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I am 99.9 percent certain I’ll see the light tonight by Ingwie Malmsteen says nothing about Thelema.

It is irrational to think that a God of Love would allow innocent young people to be exposed to being disturbed by demons.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
Have you actually ever listened to the song “Highway to Hell”? It’s not an ode to Satan, it’s rather somewhere between a cautionary tale and the reality of what happens to a lot of people. It’s also fun to sing along with.
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To me the lyrics portray that type of lifestyle - when acdc was at it’s most popular. Drugs, sex and rock and roll. Just now I’ve read through the lyrics and he seems to be saying that “livin easy” (drugs?) “lovin free” (sexual revolution & free love), which as Catholics we know are objectively mortal sins. Then the song continues where he acknowledges that it’s party time (which after various concerts were drug filled sex parties as some artists over the years I can remember hearing admit to such things). Further along in the song it says “Nobodys’ gonna slow me down” etc which all implies he is willingly doing the above ie lovin freely and livin easy.

And a Catholic leading that type of lifestyle is on the road to hell (as these actions are objectively mortal sins, not discounting the 3 things necessary for these to be subjectively mortal sins and if these are met then the individual actually incurs guilt).
ETA Lyrics to AC/DC Highway to Hell
 
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I think the point is that the average person singing a song like “Highway to Hell” or “Hells Bells” or whatever who is past college age is NOT living that lifestyle. It’s a song. It’s not your life story.
There are also plenty of songs about being miserable and alone after partying to balance it out with.

AC/DC also has “Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap” which is about a hit man for hire. People singing that are not going home and becoming hit men, or hiring hit men.
 
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Tis_Bearself said:
It’s a song. It’s not your life story.
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Very true! I was commenting that the song was from his own point of view about his own lifestyle. But yes, individuals could also make it their own song as it also applies to their lifestyle.
But yes, I too in the past have “sung along” because it has great rhythm, is easy to sing along with (not much to the verses or chorus), and not because I agreed with the sentiments - back then investigating the lyrics and their meanings weren’t even on my radar! As you point out - it was just a song (to me and nothing more). Very popular at the time.

Jimmy Akin - Is it ok to listen to non-religious music which I’ve glanced through appears to balanced and good.
 
You need to read the power of words I study liberal arts and the effects of words and meaning of songs has a huge effect on the soul hence why people listening to heavy Rock normally dress drastically and act a certain way.

Most famous rappers are involved with the occult and there songs are normally about how great they are and how they can kill someone.

Pop songs are normally sexual in nature. lusting between men and women not married because if it was a song about marriage, it would be about love which you rarely hear anymore.
 
No, I don’t “need to read” anything. I’m old and I’ve been in and around music and art circles for over 40 years. Most of my friends are involved with bands in some way, whether they play in them, run labels, work in the music industry, do graphic art or other support stuff for musical artists, etc.

I committed my fair share of sins but they weren’t due to bands or hanging out with bands and in fact a great many were committed outside of any music or art context. I have been living a much holier lifestyle for several years but band stuff has not been an occasion of sin for me for many decades at this point, so I haven’t had to curtail any of the fun stuff I do except to the extent that I’m getting older and maybe would rather go home and take a nap than see a band for the 12th time because been there done that.

i do agree that there are people who are overly influenced or affected by words they listen to or read. Perhaps you’re one of those people since many of your other threads suggest that you can’t easily dismiss things you read or hear. But that doesn’t mean everybody’s affected. Some people simply aren’t; others focus on positive messages they hear in even the most mundane or seemingly not so great music.
 
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Interesting article for those who may be interested to read further about the subject of whether music may be bad or good is an article titled What about Bad Music? By Dr. Jeff Mirus even if it was written in 2009. Sections include Morally Good and Bad Music, Music and Moral Behavior, Lyrics, Sacred Music, and his closing points are good.
 
po18guy said:
  1. If a song is titled “Highway to hell” it is a strong hint.
  2. Stop listening to that song.
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Science seems to suggest the opposite:
  1. Network Science and the Effects of Music Preference on Functional Brain Connectivity. Aug. 2014. Nature.
  2. Music and Heart Health. Harvard Health Publishing. Jun. 2018.
    [Research suggest that patient-selected music shows more beneficial effects than music chosen by someone else].
  3. Music as Medicine: The Impact of Healing Harmonies. Jan. 2014. Harvard Medical School.
  4. Extreme Metal Music and Anger Processing. May 2015. Leah Sharman.Queensland University. Frontiers in Human Neuroscience.
Education News:

You can now get a College Degree in Rock. May. 2013. Smithsonian.com.
In Nottingham England, talented people can now get a college degree studying Heavy Hetal
 
Music is the language of the soul, but lyrics are no longer being written by poets.
 
Looks can be deceiving. Do you listen to KISS? Black Sabbath? Twisted Sister? Alice Cooper? All have been accused of worshipping/promoting Satan in their music.

If you’re truly worried about it, @UrimandTumim, here are some bands NOT to listen to.

https://www.thetoptens.com/most-satanic-bands/
 
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lilypadrees said:
If you’re truly worried about it, @UrimandTumim, here are some bands NOT to listen to.

https://www.thetoptens.com/most-satanic-bands/
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Even that list is off base in a number of respects. Several of those bands aren’t satanic in the least. One of the bands that arguably did use a lot of black imagery had a guy I knew from back home in it. He was a normal cradle Catholic and a nice guy and when he suddenly passed away of natural causes after a brief illness, he was buried out of his parish church with a Mass just like any other Catholic.

I realize not everybody can take black metal or death metal just as entertainment or thought provoking, and maybe some of the bands with more adult themes are not good for teenagers to listen to, but there’s usually more to bands than meets the eye.
 
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