How to prove that God does exist?

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Humans are not necessarily persuaded by pure logic, especially when it comes to large, big things in their lives
Agreed. And that is why I am looking for actual examples of people persuaded by the so-called ‘proofs’. Although not everyone is persuaded by pure logic, some are. In the case of the ‘proofs’ are there any actual cases of movement from unbelief to belief?
 
God doesn’t exist.

God doesn’t participate in existence. He doesn’t has existence.

God is the very existence. He is the life.

That’s why the question “does God exist?” makes no sense at all considering the Christian definition of God.
 
It depends on what proofs you mean, but I would think so, though not many as not many are persuaded purely by logic.
 
God’s creation which we see all around us is proof that God exists. The question should be, “How do we get people to accept and believe in our proof?”
 
I’ve quoted this a few times on CAF, but I think it’s appropriate on this thread too:

“If the general picture of an expanding universe and a Big Bang is correct, we must then confront still more difficult questions. What were conditions like at the time of the Big Bang? What happened before that? Was there a tiny universe, devoid of all matter, and then the matter suddenly created from nothing? How does that happen? In many cultures it is customary to answer that God created the universe out of nothing. But this is mere temporizing. If we wish courageously to pursue the question, we must, of course ask next where God comes from. And if we decide this to be unanswerable, why not save a step and decide that the origin of the universe is an unanswerable question? Or, if we say that God has always existed, why not save a step and conclude that the universe has always existed?” – Carl Sagan, Cosmos
 
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s1c1.htm

Nobody can prove that God doesn’t exist, The desire for God is written in the human heart, because man is created by God and for God; and God never ceases to draw man to himself. Only in God will he find the truth and happiness he never stops searching for:

The dignity of man rests above all on the fact that he is called to communion with God. This invitation to converse with God is addressed to man as soon as he comes into being. For if man exists it is because God has created him through love, and through love continues to hold him in existence. He cannot live fully according to truth unless he freely acknowledges that love and entrusts himself to his creator.1


But I demand physical proof!

St. Thomas Aquinas proposed five proofs in which humans can use natural reason to prove the existence of God through extrinsic evidence. Through the use of natural reason we can logically conclude in the existence of God. Yet strictly speaking, God’s existence cannot be definitively proven through laboratory tests and experimental science. Not all things are subject to experimental science. It is illogical to say, “If I can not see, taste, touch, feel or hear something it must not exist!” Reason and extrinsic evidence must also be considered. Experimental science and intrinsic evidence cannot definitively prove historical events, and yet by reason we know they have occurred. And surely were science falters and extrinsic evidence fail, reason and intrinsic evidence can prove the spiritual which can not be measured by material sciences.


In Genesis Ch 1 the history of Creation is mentioned ,however its an religious aspect , science and atheist don’t believe,but do mention so external Supreme Power

Psalm 14:1 Fools say in their hearts, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is no one who does good.

Psalm 53:1 Fools say in their hearts, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they commit abominable acts; there is no one who does good.

Psalm 94:8 8 Understand, O dullest of the people; fools, when will you be wise? 9 He who planted the ear, does he not hear? He who formed the eye, does he not see?

10 He who disciplines the nations, he who teaches knowledge to humankind, does he not chastise?11 The LORD knows our thoughts, that they are but an empty breath.
 
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Faith consists in believing that what God says is true, therefore faith presupposes the existence of God, and to know that God exists does not belong to Faith, but to reason.
 
You GOT to be kiddin me…

I just paid a WHOLE YEARS SALARY to get audited… now you tell me my thetans are off and I need another audit?

Is blasphemy!
 
Of course one cannot prove a negative. Quoting a series of Bible verses adds nothing to answering the question posed here.
 
If faith does not require proof how can you rebut the claims of any other religion?
 
Hebrews 11

"Without faith it is impossible to please him. For whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him."

We all already know by faith that He exists. But our sinfull nature does not want to believe in Him.
 
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I’ve quoted this a few times on CAF, but I think it’s appropriate on this thread too:

“If the general picture of an expanding universe and a Big Bang is correct, we must then confront still more difficult questions. What were conditions like at the time of the Big Bang? What happened before that? Was there a tiny universe, devoid of all matter, and then the matter suddenly created from nothing? How does that happen? In many cultures it is customary to answer that God created the universe out of nothing. But this is mere temporizing. If we wish courageously to pursue the question, we must, of course ask next where God comes from. And if we decide this to be unanswerable, why not save a step and decide that the origin of the universe is an unanswerable question? Or, if we say that God has always existed, why not save a step and conclude that the universe has always existed?” – Carl Sagan, Cosmos
Carl Sagan apparently didn’t understand the classical cosmological arguments as well as he thought he did.
 
I became a theist and later a Catholic after reading some of David Bentley Hart’s work and essentially hearing the argument from contingency properly formulated.
 
I am not a theologian nor a philosopher that out of the way, let me say this. People are questioning the existence of God, now at Christmas when we are celebrating the birth of the Son of God,To say He does not have any emotion said one post, another post read,“can’t say with precision what He [God] is” His fullest revelation was in the person of Jesus". If you believe in Jesus, then you have any answer you are looking for. From the Love and Mercy He has for man, for the torment of mind and body He went through for us,. Jesus loves us as Human and Divine and has shown this. Love, from when He was born in the stable in Bethlehem to His journey to the cross. If you found Jesus your heart knows what I am saying. God Bless.🦋🦋
 
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